The Venezuela thread

What Do You Think About This?

  • Doesn't really make sense.

    Votes: 11 16.7%

  • Unnecessary.

    Votes: 21 31.8%

  • I love it! We can get more oil!

    Votes: 20 30.3%

  • I can see why it might happen, but not comfortable with it.

    Votes: 14 21.2%
  • Total voters
    66
#976
#976
midnight orange said:
Most likely tax dollars to build the infrastructure for Exxon, Chevron, etc to move oil. We pay, they profit.
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Just a heads up, if you really believe that, move your 401 to Exxon and Chevron, they are publicly traded companies and you can profit too. Of course the smart thing would be to where all the politicians ( or spouses/ significant others) in Washington’s money is moving to
 
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#977
BeardedVol said:
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liked for father Ted

DRINK ARSE FECK GIRLS
 
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#978
Wireless1 said:
Just a heads up, if you really believe that, move your 401 to Exxon and Chevron, they are publicly traded companies and you can profit too. Of course the smart thing would be to where all the politicians ( or spouses/ significant others) in Washington’s money is moving to
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I’m long on energy and have been for quite some time. I’m cynical but not stupid. I did this when I found that Climate Change Inc. was being funded by energy companies as a barrier to entry.
 
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EasternVol said:
How does the 'legitimacy' of their government matter? It is a sovereign country.
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Venezuela under the Maduro "government" was illegitimate and not a duly elected recognizable government. We captured and arrested a warlord cosplaying as a legitimate "leader" of Venezuela.

They have a legitimate president that won an election 2 years ago.

The only attacking of Venezuela's sovereignty was Maduro's dictatorial regime nullifying their democratic election.

This isn't rocket science. You can disagree with the operation, but to say we attacked a sovereign country and its legitimate government is foolish.
 
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#985
JMSqb11 said:
Venezuela under the Maduro "government" was illegitimate and not a duly elected recognizable government. We captured and arrested a warlord cosplaying as a legitimate "leader" of Venezuela.

They have a legitimate president that won an election 2 years ago.

The only attacking of Venezuela's sovereignty was Maduro's dictatorial regime nullifying their democratic election.

This isn't rocket science. You can disagree with the operation, but to say we attacked a sovereign country and its legitimate government is foolish.
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And we are on record saying the Democratcialy elected winner of that election will not be leading the country
 
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ButchPlz said:
Venezuelans could have taken up arms and fixed their country.

Instead they largely ran away. Unfortunately they've been *****ing up a lot of the rest of South America in the process. Last year in Lima they were out protesting that the Peruvian government wasn't giving them benefits like they had at home.

It is not my job as an American to pay for this stuff. Everyone knows I'm tired of it for Israel, Palestine, etc., and I'm tired of it in our own hemisphere. Life is getting worse here in the US, it's time to turn our hand back into our own country.
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I love how people carry this attitude around that the government incapable of walking and chewing gum at the same time while also demanding that they walk and chew gum at the same time.

Say you want to do away with total and complete foreign affairs and all that (i'm not saying it is right or wrong).... You realize there isn't one action or policy that could turn things around domestically right? We would still have to have our government doing multiple things at once.....

I find the walking contradiction of wanting the very mechanism that people constantly complain about so hysterical. Like make up your minds.
 
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#987
volfanhill said:
And we are on record saying the Democratcialy elected winner of that election will not be leading the country
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We haven't gone on record with any specificity of who will be leading the nation.

My opinion (and hope for that matter) is that we make it so untenable for Maduro's VP and his "security chief" to stay around.

One thing I've read and confirmed that is the VP is constitutionally required to call for a national election in 45-60 days when a permanent absence occurs with the President.

Seems like that will be the first test of things.

I have zero problem with Edmundo Gonzalez getting pushed in to rightly take over as he should have been. But i'm also pragmatic enough to know that this will likely wind up having a new national election and not just ushering in Gonzalez or Machado. I fully expect either of those 2 to run in the new national election.
 
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#988
JMSqb11 said:
Venezuela under the Maduro "government" was illegitimate and not a duly elected recognizable government. We captured and arrested a warlord cosplaying as a legitimate "leader" of Venezuela.

They have a legitimate president that won an election 2 years ago.

The only attacking of Venezuela's sovereignty was Maduro's dictatorial regime nullifying their democratic election.

This isn't rocket science. You can disagree with the operation, but to say we attacked a sovereign country and its legitimate government is foolish.
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There are only about 3 world leaders whom are legit besides Trump. Putin, Xi and maybe Modi are legit because they exercise sovereignty over their own countries as well as their spheres of influence. Everyone else is just a color revolution away from dismissal. It’s got nothing to do with this “democracy” crap.
 
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#989
midnight orange said:
There are only about 3 world leaders whom are legit besides Trump. Putin, Xi and maybe Modi are legit because they exercise sovereignty over their own countries as well as their spheres of influence. Everyone else is just a color revolution away from dismissal. It’s got nothing to do with this “democracy” crap.
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Lol saying Maduro was legitimate elected President in 2024 is a hell of a take. I needed that laugh.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
We haven't gone on record with any specificity of who will be leading the nation.

My opinion (and hope for that matter) is that we make it so untenable for Maduro's VP and his "security chief" to stay around.

One thing I've read and confirmed that is the VP is constitutionally required to call for a national election in 45-60 days when a permanent absence occurs with the President.

Seems like that will be the first test of things.

I have zero problem with Edmundo Gonzalez getting pushed in to rightly take over as he should have been. But i'm also pragmatic enough to know that this will likely wind up having a new national election and not just ushering in Gonzalez or Machado. I fully expect either of those 2 to run in the new national election.
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"President Donald Trump on Saturday said that he did not see Venezuela's opposition leader Maria Corina Machado as a potential replacement for Nicolás Maduro after he was removed from power overnight."

The US will "run" Venezuela until a "safe, proper and judicious transition" can be ensured, Donald Trump has said,


I doubt Trump cares at all about what the Venezuelan Constitution says
 
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volfanhill said:
"President Donald Trump on Saturday said that he did not see Venezuela's opposition leader Maria Corina Machado as a potential replacement for Nicolás Maduro after he was removed from power overnight."

The US will "run" Venezuela until a "safe, proper and judicious transition" can be ensured, Donald Trump has said,


I doubt Trump cares at all about what the Venezuelan Constitution says
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Offering an opinion of Machado is not a definitive statement.

If you accept "I do not see" as a statement of confirmation / specifics / definitive, I don't know what to tell you.

I bet in the same breath that you take Trump's opining about Machado as gospel, you aren't shooting down all these "experts" who using "i do not see this working" aren't pushing back either.

It is dumb. This is 24 hours in. Trump and specifically Rubio, aren't going to just say we got Maduro and its over.
 
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#997
JL24 said:
I find it so pathetic how some American citizens actually hate America so much that they defend foreign terrorists and criminals that have caused so much suffering to the American people,

Look at the just the primal joy the citizens of Venezuelan are experiencing right now.

And yet, the radical left does nothing but continue their hatred of all things free and good in this world.

Let go of the hate in your heart and try to enjoy the good things in life when you can.
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Recently had that heart attack and realized I am probably not long for this world. Never planned on growing old or retiring, my family medical history and lifestyle made that obvious...but now I am soon to be 49 and just hoping that I make 52 or 53 to see my youngest out of college and maybe meet my 1st grandkid from my son. I am thankful for the time I have been given with my kids and hope I can make those milestones.

For people to waste their precious time bitter, angry, and obsessed with a complete stranger they have never even met is complete insanity. Especially since for the vast majority of people their day to day life has not changed in any meaningful way when Trump was in office before, and now. Our country doesn't really work that way thankfully. It's not a Banana Republic. It's a huge train with hundreds of millions of cars (people) rolling down the track and it takes miles and miles just to slow it down slightly or speed it up. It's nearly impossible to stop. Having a different Conductor driving the train has very little effect on the day to day lives of the vast majority of people on that train. My son has coworkers who treat several patients for TDS at their collective practice. There are several who post here that would be much better off to get some help...rather than waste the next 3 years of precious time with their head tied in knots over Trump.
 
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volfanhill said:
"President Donald Trump on Saturday said that he did not see Venezuela's opposition leader Maria Corina Machado as a potential replacement for Nicolás Maduro after he was removed from power overnight."

The US will "run" Venezuela until a "safe, proper and judicious transition" can be ensured, Donald Trump has said,


I doubt Trump cares at all about what the Venezuelan Constitution says
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Machado didn’t win anything against Maduro. Gonzalez did. She was barred from running… would she have beat him as well? Potentially but that didn’t happen. I haven’t heard Trump or anyone else weigh in on González.
 
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