The Runner's thread

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Yankee_Vol said:
They make a shoelace adapter you can buy for $5 so you can use the capability with any shoe. I use the pod with all my running shoes
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It was my experience that the shoelace adaptor wasn't as accurate... Sometimes my distances were off by up to 1/4 mile and times were off by more than a minute a mile... I tracked almost all my running routes on my bicycle (it has a cateye deal that is spot on...) so I know the adaptor deal was off. Actually, the Nike pod in a Nike shoe wasn't totally accurate either.... Even after several calibrations... Good enough for my purposes but still off....
 
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Thrasher865 said:
K, guess I just wont run then, tri. Thanks for your help. God forbid someone try to do something as simple as running without investing in $100 worth of equipment first.
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Understand your frustration but that's just the reality. It would be like complaining your Walmart driver only hits the ball 200 yds. You could improve with technique but the easiest thing is buy better driver. Better equipment hides your flaws.

that's why my first suggestion was rest ice stretching and tape. after no running for 2-4 weeks you could start back slowly and change your stride length and foot strike. However better shoes will hide these flaws.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
I checked out the Clymb. Thanks for the suggestion, but everything on there is either sold out, only available in sizes 7 and 14, or is marked down from $8.5B to $75+.

I may try running in my bball shoes until I can afford another brand new pair of shoes. They are supportive and have the padded heel, but they are way too rigid to be running shoes.
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sign up for the email. guarantee they will have something in your size within 30 days.
 
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jguy2 said:
Thrasher, can I ask why you're so set on Nike? They don't make great running shoes outside of one or two pairs as far as I've heard.
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I liked the Pegasus 29's I tried on. Is there a better brand I should look into? I've just always bought Nike for everything but sneakers. I can still return the ones I ordered.

tri_vol said:
that's why my first suggestion was rest ice stretching and tape. after no running for 2-4 weeks you could start back slowly and change your stride length and foot strike. However better shoes will hide these flaws.
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Could you go into more detail? It may not be necessary. I don't have shin splints yet, but with the type of soreness I'm feeling, I can tell it will turn into them if I'm not careful.

The Pegasuses were night and day versus my New Balances, so maybe that will resolve the issue.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
I liked the Pegasus 29's I tried on. Is there a better brand I should look into? I've just always bought Nike for everything but sneakers. I can still return the ones I ordered.



Could you go into more detail? It may not be necessary. I don't have shin splints yet, but with the type of soreness I'm feeling, I can tell it will turn into them if I'm not careful.

The Pegasuses were night and day versus my New Balances, so maybe that will resolve the issue.
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As far as point number one, I don't buy into the whole supportive running shoe thing, because, in my opinion, it's band-aid for a symptom. I think the underlying cause of most running injuries is bad form. If you run with correct form, you can wear bricks for shoes and you'd still be good to go. My advice on buying shoes isn't to go to fleet feet to get an unqualified opinion on whether you pronate correctly, over-pronate, supinate, etc. My advice is to try on every shoe in the store and buy what feels most comfortable on your foot, or in your case, what is most comfortable on your foot and your wallet. You can buy a $160 pair of Kinsei's but you're still going to be running with **** form and will probably get hurt, or you can run with a $50 pair of dual fusions with good form and never get injured. To sum up, if the Nike's are the most comfortable shoe in your price range, more power to you, but don't just buy them because they're cheap or because they look good.

As far as point number two, this video is the best I've ever watched that covers just about every aspect of correct form.

Principles of Natural Running with Dr. Mark Cucuzzella - YouTube

I hope this helps you.

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Also, just got done with an easy 3.5 today.

Weekly Total: 16.96 Miles
 
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Thrasher865 said:
I liked the Pegasus 29's I tried on. Is there a better brand I should look into? I've just always bought Nike for everything but sneakers. I can still return the ones I ordered.



Could you go into more detail? It may not be necessary. I don't have shin splints yet, but with the type of soreness I'm feeling, I can tell it will turn into them if I'm not careful.

The Pegasuses were night and day versus my New Balances, so maybe that will resolve the issue.
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New Balance
Brooks
Asics
 
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Just bought some sunglasses for running.

Tifosi Podium. 3 lenses, $62
 

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Kind of jumping in late on the conversation but Thrasher I would recommend going to a running store and have them measure you and recommend some shoes to you. Then you can go off their recommendations for shoes. Try and find their recommendation on sale or see if they can recommend a shoe that is similar with a cheaper price.

I have ran in Nike, new balance, and now brooks. Brooks have been my favorite so far. Just have to find what is comfortable for you. Again I just kind of skimmed the conversation so this may have been covered but don't run in the basketball shoes they will only make your shin splits worse.

Good luck Thrasher.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Could you go into more detail? It may not be necessary. I don't have shin splints yet, but with the type of soreness I'm feeling, I can tell it will turn into them if I'm not careful.
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Most people overstride and land on their heel rolling forward to the mid foot. The physics of this means 1) every time your foot hits the ground you are slowing your momentum 2) spending a lot of time with your foot on the ground 3) the impact is received by your knees and lower leg.

If you keep your foot strike under your hips then the physics change. 1) your no longer applying the brakes 2) you'll probably land on your mid foot and spend less time with your foot on the ground 3) the impact is received by your quads and glutes rather than your knees & shins.

At first this is going to seem weird and slow like you are taking little baby steps. The key to running is not stride length but foot turnover. stand up straight & imagine a rope tied around your waist pulling your pelvis forward while you bend at the ankles. this will help keep your strike under your hips. it took me a year to relearn how to run so don't get discouraged.
 
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+1 on having a running specialty store find you a good pair of shoes. It has helped me tremendously, as did switching to minimalist style shoes for shin splints, because they almost force you to run correctly. I've ran in FiveFingers, Merrills and now my Brooks for long distance stuff and I now start running off the balls of my feet like sprinters do and as I wear down on longer runs I evolve into the midfoot strike instead of the dreaded heel strike that tri is speaking of.

Took two weeks offs to refresh my body because I was exhausted mentally and physically, but ran for the first time today, 3.5 miles at an 8/min pace and felt great. Going to start adding lots of stairs and hill work to my runs.
 
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jguy2 said:
As far as point number one, I don't buy into the whole supportive running shoe thing, because, in my opinion, it's band-aid for a symptom. I think the underlying cause of most running injuries is bad form. If you run with correct form, you can wear bricks for shoes and you'd still be good to go.
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Thanks... But my shin splints are from basketball, and if you play hard enough in a sport with that much lateral movement, shin splints are a risk. They don't always result from poor form. Though I can't claim to be an expert at running.
 
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