The Problem of Whiteness

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PKT_VOL said:
Hilarious. The Arabs gave that to Africa via conquest. Where did the Arabs get their inspiration and foundational knowledge?
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Not surprising. This is another white supremacist go to move. After denying Africa has no advanced civilization, credit any evidence of advanced civilization to outsiders (preferably Arabs).

First and foremost, Timbuktu is a quintessentially African city founded by Africans and for Africans. The only Arabs to ever be in Timbuktu were visitors. Like many other outsiders from Europe and Asia they came to learn from black teachers.

The problem for you is I ain't a typical negro. I've read and studied all this history. Your white supremacist tricks won't work on me.
 
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1972 Grad said:
They switched because the Democratic Party no longer represented the values of the working class. They voted for Carter and the first Clinton......the one from the South .
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No. They switched cause the democrats started supported equal rights for black people so they left the democratic party and went to the republican party that took up the helm as party for white nationalism. And Donald Trump is the culmination of that shift.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Not surprising. This is another white supremacist go to move. After denying Africa has no advanced civilization, credit any evidence of advanced civilization to outsiders (preferably Arabs).

First and foremost, Timbuktu is a quintessentially African city founded by Africans and for Africans. The only Arabs to ever be in Timbuktu were visitors. Like many other outsiders from Europe and Asia they came to learn from black teachers.

The problem for you is I ain't a typical negro. I've read and studied all this history. Your white supremacist tricks won't work on me.
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Please tell me you're not part of those who believe black people were native to America and that all knowledge comes from Africa
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
In a world dominated by white supremacy it is a problem.
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That's what you fail to see. Free markets work. Racism is always worst in the non profit sector because they pay no price for failure. In the private sector, racism is too expensive.

Seriously though. How does white supremecay hold black people down?
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Lulz.

You were talking about current politics. Now, when called out on it, you revert to politics 50 years ago.
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I don't support either the progressive/democratic or conservative/republican party. Neither cares about the interests of black people.

However, if you force me to choose one I'll go with the one that has done at least one positive thing for us.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Present day Mali. Part of the Ancient Mali and Songhai Empire.

If you want to test me I can tell you about the expeditions taken by Mansa Musa and his older brother Abu-Bakr during their reigns as Kings of the Mali Empire.
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This is true. I played Civ 5.

I can vouch for this.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
No. They switched cause the democrats started supported equal rights for black people so they left the democratic party and went to the republican party that took up the helm as party for white nationalism. And Donald Trump is the culmination of that shift.
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The Dems lost in 1968 due to the Vietnam War. They lost in 1972 because the war was ending, and they ran George McGovern, who was the most liberal Senator in the country.

The Republicans lost in 1976 due to Watergate. The Dems lost in 1980 due to runaway inflation and the Iran hostages. They lost in 1984 because they ran Mondale, one of the most liberal Senators in the country, and people liked Reagan. The Dems lost in 1988 because they ran Michael Dukakis, a Governor from the most liberal state in the country.

The Republicans lost in 1992 because of Ross Perot, and the fact that Bill Clinton was a southerner, and considered a moderate. The Republicans lost in 1996 because they ran Bob Dole. The Republicans won 2000 because Al Gore was too liberal to carry his own state.

The Dems lost 2004 because the Dems ran John Kerry, one of the most liberal Senators from the most liberal state. You probably remember the last 8 years.

I did this all from memory and my perspective, not anybody else's view of the history of the elections.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Present day Mali. Part of the Ancient Mali and Songhai Empire.

If you want to test me I can tell you about the expeditions taken by Mansa Musa and his older brother Abu-Bakr during their reigns as Kings of the Mali Empire.
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I knew Mansa Musa. Mansa Musa was a friend of mine. Sir, you are no Mansa Musa.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Please tell me you're not part of those who believe black people were native to America and that all knowledge comes from Africa
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Not all but alot of knowledge does come from Africa. Primarily most of Ancient Greek knowledge that was taken (admitedly) from Ancient Egypt. The ancient Greeks admitted to this. White scholars of today just refuse to take them at their word.

I don't know about black people being native to America but there is evidence of black people in the Americas before Columbus. I would direct you to the seminal work of Professor Ivan Van Sertima "They Came Before Columbus".

There is evidence of West Africans (from the Mali Empire) having expeditions to the Americas. The older brother of Ancient Mali's most well-known King "Mansa Musa" is said to have led a voyage of hundreds of boats across the Atlantic to the new world. And there is evidence from the journals of Christopher Columbus that when they landed in the new world they run into native Americans that claimed to have had several wars with black skin people from across the ocean.

There are also the Olmec heads in Mexico that show evidence of what could be an ancient civilisation of black people in the Americas in the distant past.
 
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#119
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Vol8188 said:
Equality means equal opportunities not equal outcomes. Some people will fail. Especially those who are convinced it's someone else's fault when they do.

How does one achieve your vision of equality?
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I never demanded equal outcomes.

I'm arguing we don't have equal opportunity.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Not surprising. This is another white supremacist go to move. After denying Africa has no advanced civilization, credit any evidence of advanced civilization to outsiders (preferably Arabs).

First and foremost, Timbuktu is a quintessentially African city founded by Africans and for Africans. The only Arabs to ever be in Timbuktu were visitors. Like many other outsiders from Europe and Asia they came to learn from black teachers.

The problem for you is I ain't a typical negro. I've read and studied all this history. Your white supremacist tricks won't work on me.
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This keeps getting better and better. Tell us the state of African knowledge outside of the Arab Empire?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Not surprising. This is another white supremacist go to move. After denying Africa has no advanced civilization, credit any evidence of advanced civilization to outsiders (preferably Arabs).

First and foremost, Timbuktu is a quintessentially African city founded by Africans and for Africans. The only Arabs to ever be in Timbuktu were visitors. Like many other outsiders from Europe and Asia they came to learn from black teachers.

The problem for you is I ain't a typical negro. I've read and studied all this history. Your white supremacist tricks won't work on me.
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No you aren't; you're much dumber. And apparently about 50 times more arrogant. And there's not much more pathetic and potentially dangerous than a stupid, arrogant person.
 
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QuickSmurf said:
What are you talking about? Are you just trying to trol me or something?
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luthervol said:
I do indeed.* It's the exact same mentality of the people against integration in the 60's and gay marriage today.
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QuickSmurf said:
Who says tolerate everyone then turns around and calls Christians stupid rednecks? Liberalism is inconsistent.
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PKT_VOL said:
He didn't do that.
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QuickSmurf said:
I know. We haven't had slaves either. My point was that some of the most intolerant people that I personally know are very liberal. Which to me is contradictory.
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I wish I was.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Not surprising. This is another white supremacist go to move. After denying Africa has no advanced civilization, credit any evidence of advanced civilization to outsiders (preferably Arabs).

First and foremost, Timbuktu is a quintessentially African city founded by Africans and for Africans. The only Arabs to ever be in Timbuktu were visitors. Like many other outsiders from Europe and Asia they came to learn from black teachers.

The problem for you is I ain't a typical Negro. I've read and studied all this history. Your white supremacist tricks won't work on me.
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Thankfully. If they were all like you, there would be a race war.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't support either the progressive/democratic or conservative/republican party. Neither cares about the interests of black people.

However, if you force me to choose one I'll go with the one that has done at least one positive thing for us.
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You've still ignored everything I've asked you

How do you achieve racial equality? Why do you believe we currently don't have racial equality? And how does white supremacy hurt you?
 
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