The Impeachment Thread

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USAFgolferVol said:
Most of the founding fathers were liberals. Then again, you and your ilk use the term out of context quite frequently
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Classic Liberals as in actual Free Speech, Right to Own Guns, Right to be free. They weren't the Moonbats we know as liberals today. Today's liberals are more Commies and Marxists and want Big Government.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Policy that benefits Russia AND compromises our national security
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You didn't say that, you said - "Taking foreign policy stances that benefit Russia are acts of treason as well. "
I countered with examples of Obama policy that unquestionably benefit Russia. You decide benefiting Russia was no longer a concern.

But i have to ask; what compromises of our national security has Trump committed?
And you could be a pal and answer: Was Obama tougher on Russia than Trump?
 
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NCFisher said:
Post evidence he recanted and maybe we'll agree. Evidence, not some pundit saying he did.
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I can't provide a link but told you where you can find one... Google "Ukrainian prosecutor general Lutsenko admits U.S. Ambassador didn't give him a do not prosecute list". You should immediately see a headline that says that very thing from "Unian".
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I can't provide a link but told you where you can find one... Google "Ukrainian prosecutor general Lutsenko admits U.S. Ambassador didn't give him a do not prosecute list". You should immediately see a headline that says that very thing from "Unian".
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And? Solomon reported correctly. Lutsenko changed his story. How the hell is that on Solomon? Your issue is with Lutsenko.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I can't provide a link but told you where you can find one... Google "Ukrainian prosecutor general Lutsenko admits U.S. Ambassador didn't give him a do not prosecute list". You should immediately see a headline that says that very thing from "Unian".
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Why would I defend my argument and yours? Support your claim.
The thing is, even if he did, it would've been pretty damned brief and he's no longer recanted, eh?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Good lord. You are either being facetious or sadly ignorant. They were classic liberals not the crap your side spews today
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Your side? I love it! I've been a Republican all my life. I don't like Trump like millions of Republicans/Conservatives. Liking/disliking Trump isn't necessarily based on ideology. All the retired brass that speak out against him are lifelong Republicans as well. There's a reason so many speak out against him and so few defend him. Same goes with this nation's most accomplished business leaders and entrepreneurs. There's a reason there's an unfavorable tilt away from Trump. That "your side" horsesh**t you spew is an example of the unprecedented divisiveness Trump has created
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I can't provide a link from this phone I'm using but if you Google "Ukraine Prosecutor General Lutsenko admits U.S. ambassador didn't give him a do not prosecute list", and you will immediately see an article by "Unian", as well as John Solomon's false report in The Hill from March.
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Read more than the title; he saying the same thing as in the Dec. 9th interview I posted.

"I shared the details and explained that I could not open and close cases on my own. I listed some so-called anti-corruption activists under investigation. She said it was unacceptable, as it would undermine the credibility of anti-corruption activists. I took a piece of paper, put down the listed names and said: 'Give me a do not prosecute list.' She said: "No, you got me wrong.' I said: "No, I didn't get you wrong. Such lists were earlier drawn up on Bankova Street [the presidential administration's address, Lutsenko meant the Yanukovych administration], and now you give new lists on Tankova Street [the former name of Sikorsky Street, where the U.S. Embassy is located]. The meeting ended. I'm afraid the emotions were not very good," Lutsenko gave the details of his meeting with the ambassador. Ukraine Prosecutor General Lutsenko admits U.S. ambassador didn't give him a do not prosecute list

This is like leftist Beavis & Butthead media yukking it up when Trump said he was wiretapped. Then we find he was absolutely being spied upon, even if wiretapping wasn't the precise method.

Now, you can claim he might have misunderstood her intentions, but if that conversation happened she did tell him those are are people we don't want prosecuted.

So, in fact, it doesn't appear he ever recanted.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Your side? I love it! I've been a Republican all my life. I don't like Trump like millions of Republicans/Conservatives. Liking/disliking Trump isn't necessarily based on ideology. All the retired brass that speak out against him are lifelong Republicans as well. There's a reason so many speak out against him and so few defend him. Same goes with this nation's most accomplished business leaders and entrepreneurs. There's a reason there's an unfavorable tilt away from Trump. That "your side" horsesh**t you spew is an example of the unprecedented divisiveness Trump has created
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It’s you my friend that is spreading division.
 
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37L1 said:
Liberals? They were revolutionaries. But today they would be considered conservatives based on strictly adhering to the Constitution that they wrote.
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None of them would ever support a POS like Trump. Not because he makes a mockery of the constitution, but because he's unqualified for it
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
None of them would ever support a POS like Trump. Not because he makes a mockery of the constitution, but because he's unqualified for it
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I agree with you on this, none of the founding fathers would support Trump. Of course none of the FFs would support any of the Dem candidates or heck probably 99% of the candidates that have ran for the office over the previous 30-40 years.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Your side? I love it! I've been a Republican all my life. I don't like Trump like millions of Republicans/Conservatives. Liking/disliking Trump isn't necessarily based on ideology. All the retired brass that speak out against him are lifelong Republicans as well. There's a reason so many speak out against him and so few defend him. Same goes with this nation's most accomplished business leaders and entrepreneurs. There's a reason there's an unfavorable tilt away from Trump. That "your side" horsesh**t you spew is an example of the unprecedented divisiveness Trump has created
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Im not a Republican or a Dem and I’m not a Trumper either. I say your side because you’re misguided in your views clearly brought on by working in a federal govt job. “Treason” and other buzzwords seem over dramatic in this instance. Trump is narcissistic and sometimes does dumb things however I’ve seen nothing that Rises to the level of impeachment
 
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NCFisher said:
Read more than the title; he saying the same thing as in the Dec. 9th interview I posted.

"I shared the details and explained that I could not open and close cases on my own. I listed some so-called anti-corruption activists under investigation. She said it was unacceptable, as it would undermine the credibility of anti-corruption activists. I took a piece of paper, put down the listed names and said: 'Give me a do not prosecute list.' She said: "No, you got me wrong.' I said: "No, I didn't get you wrong. Such lists were earlier drawn up on Bankova Street [the presidential administration's address, Lutsenko meant the Yanukovych administration], and now you give new lists on Tankova Street [the former name of Sikorsky Street, where the U.S. Embassy is located]. The meeting ended. I'm afraid the emotions were not very good," Lutsenko gave the details of his meeting with the ambassador. Ukraine Prosecutor General Lutsenko admits U.S. ambassador didn't give him a do not prosecute list

This is like leftist Beavis & Butthead media yukking it up when Trump said he was wiretapped. Then we find he was absolutely being spied upon, even if wiretapping wasn't the precise method.

Now, you can claim he might have misunderstood her intentions, but if that conversation happened she did tell him those are are people we don't want prosecuted.

So, in fact, it doesn't appear he ever recanted.
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"No, you got me wrong."

.... and Trump claimed that Obama had tapped his wires at Trump Tower - not that low level members of his campaign, Carter Page and George Papadopoulos, were spied on. That was complete and utter bull $hit.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
None of them would ever support a POS like Trump. Not because he makes a mockery of the constitution, but because he's unqualified for it
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They would have a very difficult time supporting anyone who is currently running for President. Hillary was supposedly the mostest qualified everrrrr, according to some. Too bad she didn't win, eh?
 
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hog88 said:
I agree with you on this, none of the founding fathers would support Trump. Of course none of the FFs would support any of the Dem candidates or heck probably 99% of the candidates that have ran for the office over the previous 30-40 years.
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I'm thinking they probably would have liked Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan, and probably ( I know you're not going to like this) Obama
 
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