The Impeachment Thread

#32,651
#32,651
37L1 said:
They would have a very difficult time supporting anyone who is currently running for President. Hillary was supposedly the mostest qualified everrrrr, according to some. Too bad she didn't win, eh?
Click to expand...
According to some? Left wing idiots....lets not get too enamored with our founding fathers. They had their share of faults too, BUT were focused on a common goal
 
#32,652
#32,652
USAFgolferVol said:
I'm thinking they probably would have liked Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan, and probably ( I know you're not going to like this) Obama
Click to expand...

Maybe Carter and Reagan but that would it. I have my doubts about Carter, but Obama LOL. They would have bitch slapped him once he started talking about guns.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SpaceCoastVol
#32,653
#32,653
Rickyvol77 said:
Im not a Republican or a Dem and I’m not a Trumper either. I say your side because you’re misguided in your views clearly brought on by working in a federal govt job. “Treason” and other buzzwords seem over dramatic in this instance. Trump is narcissistic and sometimes does dumb things however I’ve seen nothing that Rises to the level of impeachment
Click to expand...
The job I had with the government was a nonpartisan type position. I wouldn't know the party preference of my peers there, but I do know most were against Trump given the snickers and head shakes the day following the election
 
#32,654
#32,654
USAFgolferVol said:
According to some? Left wing idiots....lets not get too enamored with our founding fathers. They had their share of faults too, BUT were focused on a common goal
Click to expand...
Our founding fathers were great men, and deserve the praise they get. So yes I’ll be “enamored” with actual great men who were brilliant and principled. Much more than just working in the state department 🙄
 
  • Like
Reactions: FallCreekVols, BigOrangeD and hog88
#32,656
#32,656
USAFgolferVol said:
According to some? Left wing idiots....lets not get too enamored with our founding fathers. They had their share of faults too, BUT were focused on a common goal
Click to expand...

Everyone has their faults but our FFs gave us the most perfect form of self governance ever devised. We’re pissing on their sacrifices by what we have done to it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BigOrangeD
#32,658
#32,658
hog88 said:
Everyone has their faults but our FFs gave us the most perfect form of self governance ever devised. We’re pissing on their sacrifices by what we have done to it.
Click to expand...
Democrats are brilliant at getting the house reverted back to the GOP whenever democrats take over. They did it before with Obama Care and now they are following up in 2020 with this impeachment crap. Adios liberales and your two language government.
 
#32,659
#32,659
BowlBrother85 said:
"No, you got me wrong."

.... and Trump claimed had that Obama had tapped his wires at Trump Tower - not that low level members of his campaign, Carter Page and George Papadopoulos, were spied on. That was complete and utter bull $hit.
Click to expand...

That's her denial; I've already stated we don't know who is telling the truth. The argument is whether he recanted, remember? That would be no.

That's weak. Trump became aware the campaign was being spied on, he just didn't know the form of the activity...which is why it's called 'spying'. He made the claim on March 4, 2017. Now, unless you want to claim the spying began after that date and amassed enough info for Mueller to be appointed in May, in practicality he was correct.

But where might he get such a crazy idea?

On January 19, 2017, The New York Times published an article which used two headlines,[14] with the print headline reading "Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump Aides"[15][a][16] and the article published online with the title "Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates".[14] The article stated that "American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted [Russian] communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump, including his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort."[14] The article also noted the uncertainty regarding the scope of the communications, stating: "It is not clear whether the intercepted [Russian] communications had anything to do with Mr. Trump's campaign, or Mr. Trump himself."[15] Trump Tower wiretapping allegations - Wikipedia

In a March 15, 2017 interview with Tucker Carlson, he stated when asked for evidence of the claim: "Trump said that the New York Times “wrote about it … on January 20 using the word wiretap.” Examining Trump's Wiretap Claim
 
  • Like
Reactions: 37L1
#32,660
#32,660
NCFisher said:
That's her denial; I've already stated we don't know who is telling the truth. The argument is whether he recanted, remember? That would be no.

That's weak. Trump became aware the campaign was being spied on, he just didn't know the form of the activity...which is why it's called 'spying'. He made the claim on March 4, 2017. Now, unless you want to claim the spying began after that date and amassed enough info for Mueller to be appointed in May, in practicality he was correct.

But where might he get such a crazy idea?

On January 19, 2017, The New York Times published an article which used two headlines,[14] with the print headline reading "Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump Aides"[15][a][16] and the article published online with the title "Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates".[14] The article stated that "American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted [Russian] communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump, including his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort."[14] The article also noted the uncertainty regarding the scope of the communications, stating: "It is not clear whether the intercepted [Russian] communications had anything to do with Mr. Trump's campaign, or Mr. Trump himself."[15] Trump Tower wiretapping allegations - Wikipedia

In a March 15, 2017 interview with Tucker Carlson, he stated when asked for evidence of the claim: "Trump said that the New York Times “wrote about it … on January 20 using the word wiretap.” Examining Trump's Wiretap Claim
Click to expand...
His story changed. The context is much different with her qualifying statement.

And in a tweet storm on March 4, 2017, Trump made very specific allegations against Barack Obama. He claimed: "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism." There has never been any evidence to support this claim.
 
#32,666
#32,666
BowlBrother85 said:
His story changed. The context is much different with her qualifying statement.

And in a tweet storm on March 4, 2017, Trump made very specific allegations against Barack Obama. He claimed: "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism." There has never been any evidence to support this claim.
Click to expand...

The context is not different at all; she has always denied warning Lutsenko off prosecuting certain people.

Again, that Trump didn't know the specifics of exactly who in the government was surveilling the campaign or what form it took, he was right that he was being surveilled with Obama in the WH. You're splitting the baby.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 37L1, davethevol and BigOrangeD
#32,667
#32,667
NCFisher said:
The context is not different at all; she has always denied warning Lutsenko off prosecuting certain people.

Again, that Trump didn't know the specifics of exactly who in the government was surveilling the campaign or what form it took, he was right that he was being surveilled with Obama in the WH. You're splitting the baby.
Click to expand...
He did change the context of what he was claiming... her account never changed. His did.

But that is not what Trump said in that tweet. He made a very specific charge that Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower... and once again, there has never been any evidence in support of that. You are going to an extreme to defend a completely unfounded accusation.
 
#32,668
#32,668
BowlBrother85 said:
He did change the context of what he was claiming... her account never changed. His did.

But that is not what Trump said in that tweet. He made a very specific charge that Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower... and once again, there has never been any evidence in support of that. You are going to an extreme to defend a completely unfounded accusation.
Click to expand...

NCFisher said:
That is an incorrect and projecting characterization; I've stated Biden being a candidate doesn't shield him from scrutiny and if that scrutiny originates from Trump sounding an alarm, he can certainly do that. I've stated he cannot oversee or manage such an investigation, which he acknowledges with the three references to Barr contacting Ukraine officials. I've stated his conversation with Zelensky is not an impeachable "offense".
Click to expand...

As NCFisher has stated, the investigation into Trump was justified. That's different though, I'm sure.
 
#32,669
#32,669
BowlBrother85 said:
He did change the context of what he was claiming... her account never changed. His did.

But that is not what Trump said in that tweet. He made a very specific charge that Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower... and once again, there has never been any evidence in support of that. You are going to an extreme to defend a completely unfounded accusation.
Click to expand...

I don't know that he did change it; can't you point to a transcript? If she's asking about prosecutions and he tells her who they're prosecuting, and she remarks "that's unacceptable", then she did warn him off that list of people.

You're breaking no new ground; no one is contending there was proof Obama had Trump Towers wiretapped, get it? Trump didn't have the specifics, but did know the campaign was being surveilled during the Obama admin. That can only be spun one way; he was simply wrong - that we know - about the details.
 
#32,670
#32,670
Mick said:
As NCFisher has stated, the investigation into Trump was justified. That's different though, I'm sure.
Click to expand...

Then you sure as hell don't comprehend a thing that was said since the investigation absolutely was not justified on any basis of the evidence. As Barr stated following the damning Horowitz report, their case as known to be baseless in Jan. 2017.

There should have never been a Mueller probe.
That should clear up what NCFisher stated.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Obsessed, 37L1 and DC_Vol
#32,673
#32,673
NCFisher said:
Then you sure as hell don't comprehend a thing that was said since the investigation absolutely was not justified on any basis of the evidence. As Barr stated following the damning Horowitz report, their case as known to be baseless in Jan. 2017.

There should have never been a Mueller probe.
That should clear up what NCFisher stated.
Click to expand...
Barr is a tool and NCFisher is a fool. The Trump Tower meeting with Russian agents , Trumps family and campaign manager to get dirt on hillary is all the justification needed. Trump perpetuates a conspiracy that Hunter was dirty and Joe "stopped" an investigation into his son is your justification into asking Ukraine to announce an investigation into the Bidens isn't even on the same level of probable cause. You remember the horowitz report stating there was enough to justify the investigation. Is that the same Horowitz report you speak of or is there an alternative one used by Trumps most ardent supporters including Barr?
 
#32,674
#32,674
Mick said:
Barr is a tool and NCFisher is a fool. The Trump Tower meeting with Russian agents , Trumps family and campaign manager to get dirt on hillary is all the justification needed. Trump perpetuates a conspiracy that Hunter was dirty and Joe "stopped" an investigation into his son is your justification into asking Ukraine to announce an investigation into the Bidens isn't even on the same level of probable cause. You remember the horowitz report stating there was enough to justify the investigation. Is that the same Horowitz report you speak of or is there an alternative one used by Trumps most ardent supporters including Barr?
Click to expand...
There is only one fool associated with your post and his name starts with an "M" and is followed by an "ick".
 
  • Like
Reactions: hjeagle1vol, Obsessed and W.TN.Orange Blood
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement

Back
Top