Swain not buying CJP explanation on Maurer

[1vol8]

Well if he’s out, I don’t see this team going to a bowl game with JG.

At some point “rust” will become a factor when he does get back as well. Wonder how long his leash will be with VN and/or coaching staff.

 

[Ty4Vols]

I am not giving him sole credit. I was merely pointing out the ridiculous statement that UT will not win another game if he starts.

Wait....am I confused?
This was in the post I originally replied to you.
"Shrout played well filling in for JG but he was the reason they beat SC not any other qb."
I'm sorry I read that and interpreted that as sole credit. I hope you can see where my confusion comes in.
I'm happy JG is improving and the Vols have multiple QB options. Not everyone agrees who the starting QB should be but at least our Vols are winning and they're back in the hunt for a bowl game!

Go Vols

 

[cbatey1]

He played in 2 keys series last week, produced nothing either time, did not get us out of a bad run play twice, threw one time across his body to the middle of the field and lofted one up deep into double coverage. In 6 plays he messed up on 4 of them, maybe that's why he got pulled with a vote of non confidence.

Yeah that one pass was ALMOST as bad as the interception right before half that someone threw off their back foot... Keep trying lol

 

[1vol8]

The never JG crowd continues to do this, it doesn't fit their narrative when JG performs well enough to win. It's always his fault in their eyes. Hard to believe that they can't see when the whole team plays good we win and when the team plays bad we lose, regardless of who is at QB. There are very few game changing QBs out there in the college game today, we, like 95% of college programs, do not have a game changing QB on our roster.

BS

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

From everything I've seen since kickoff of the spring game my opinion is that Shrout is a far far better QB than JG so his not playing ahead of JG in a cast against UAB has caused my to lose all faith in Pruitt as our head coach.

Somebody tell Shrout that he needs to transfer if he wants a shot at playing. KY needs a QB as do many other teams.

I'm sure teams are going to beat down his door!! LoL, I mean why would they not? He was lightly recruited out of high school and he's done very little in 2 years in Knoxville. I guess he can send them tape of him warming up. JT was always a project and he's simply not ready yet. He's raw and young raw players get chewed up in this league. He's nowhere near the best QB on this roster and it's laughable to think he is. Best SEC frame for a QB on our roster for sure, + arm strength yes, but after those 2 skill sets he doesn't do any thing else it takes to play the position any better than JG.

 

[GAVol]

Correct me if I’m wrong but a player not cleared to play doesn’t have a helmet correct?

Seems logical?

 

[VOLanooga]

Because no coach has ever lied to make teams prepare for every QB available.

Everyone knows Jennings isn’t going to throw the ball very often if at all. Pruitt says the opposite just to throw a different angle at them tho

True but if he wants that to work over the next 3 games he’s going to have to make some of it actually come true. Otherwise by Missouri they’ll know it’s probably bs and won’t gameplan for it.

 

[GAVol]

BS

I lean toward agreeing with him.... at least right now.

 

[rocytop2624]

The never JG crowd continues to do this, it doesn't fit their narrative when JG performs well enough to win. It's always his fault in their eyes. Hard to believe that they can't see when the whole team plays good we win and when the team plays bad we lose, regardless of who is at QB. There are very few game changing QBs out there in the college game today, we, like 95% of college programs, do not have a game changing QB on our roster.

If Maurer comes back in against Bama it could have got interesting. Maurer was just starting to play really good.

 

[Mccage]

And that was against UAB. I would imagine that the SEC teams will hit him harder and more often. He stands in the pocket too long, (waiting on WR's to get open), that's why he takes hits. It's also why a lot of his throws are off. He doesn't lead the WR's as he should for a 4th year QB. He's still making freshman mistakes, and that will get him hurt again.

He took hits in the UAB that Peyton would have taken.Not every sack is on JG. UAB has a very good D.... there front is better than a lot of SEC teams.

 

[Jpcisco]

From everything I've seen since kickoff of the spring game my opinion is that Shrout is a far far better QB than JG so his not playing ahead of JG in a cast against UAB has caused my to lose all faith in Pruitt as our head coach.

Somebody tell Shrout that he needs to transfer if he wants a shot at playing. KY needs a QB as do many other teams.

Thats why I'm on the fence regarding Pruitt. I think he could be a really good coach, its his handling of the QB situation that makes me worry. JG has been a below average QB the last two years. I dont care how great he is in practice, he has regressed this year. This was a 3-9 football team due to the QB play earlier in the year, Maurer was inserted and the whole season turned around. Now we are talking about 7-5. I'm not saying its all due to Maurer, but playing the young guys with JG sprinkled in as oppose to JG solo the whole game has completely changed the outlook of this team. Pruitt doesnt seem the realize what most fans do. His stubbornness worries me.

 

[1vol8]

I lean toward agreeing with him.... at least right now.

I get that there has been small sample sizes but if Maurer hasn’t proved a game changer idk who ever will.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

Yeah that one pass was ALMOST as bad as the interception right before half that someone threw off their back foot... Keep trying lol

6 plays, he messed up on 4 of them, keep trying.

 

[GAVol]

I get that there has been small sample sizes but if Maurer hasn’t proved a game changer idk who ever will.

He's had flashes for sure, but I need to see him actually play a couple of complete games before I deem him a game changer. It's a little ludicrous before then.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

If Maurer comes back in against Bama it could have got interesting. Maurer was just starting to play really good.

If the queen had balls they would have named her George!

 

[cobbwebb0710]

All of this "not letting anyone know who our starting QB is" is a farce. all 4 of our QB's are the same. One has a little bigger arm, one runs a little better, one makes poorer decisions in the red zone AND ONE IS JUST A D@MN JUNKYARD DOG WITH THE BALL IN HIS HANDS. BUT basically they are all pocket Qb's that can run for a 1st down if left wide open to run. None of them is going to wow you running the RPO. If you are prepared for one of them you prepared for all of them.
I know JG was the #1 rated blah,blah, blah.......he is not that QB.
Sorry Mr. Swain, I am not buying that Maurer is done, we just did not need him last week to win and Pruitt new it (make a rhyme every time).

There, that looks about right...

GBO!!

 

[FranklinVFL]

Maybe it was because they care about him and thought it was crazy for him to play through the pain he was in. Taking his own statement and placing your thoughts over his is little league stuff. Why would he have said that if he thought his teammates were saying that in a bad way. Extremely creative conspiracy thought on your end I feel.

Agree. If he were my son, I would have advised him to sit out a week as well. Has everything to do with your health after football. These guys have fought side by side this year. To say they don’t want JG in there simply because they have seen first hand his pain during practice is absurd.

 

[TBrown]

Saying this morning that there is no way that Maurer was physically cleared to play vs UAB but then didn’t play.
Says he said that to protect Maurer and confuse the competition.
Says if he was healthy he would play ahead of someone with a cast on his hand.
Also said that CJP has no faith in Shrout.

He had his helmet on. Players who aren’t cleared typically aren’t dressed and those with a head injury definitely don’t have their helmet.

 

[sjt18]

The never JG crowd continues to do this, it doesn't fit their narrative when JG performs well enough to win. It's always his fault in their eyes. Hard to believe that they can't see when the whole team plays good we win and when the team plays bad we lose, regardless of who is at QB. There are very few game changing QBs out there in the college game today, we, like 95% of college programs, do not have a game changing QB on our roster.

The lengths to which you're willing to go to excuse the fatal flaws of JG are pretty amazing. You basically just said that if he can't win with this team then 95% of other QB's couldn't either. That's pure non-sense. He now has an OL that protects well. RB's that catch the ball well. TE's that most programs would love to have. And WR's that compare well to the vast majority of programs.... but who he has underutilized badly for 2 years.

JG still struggles with making decisions as quickly as needed. His delivery is too slow. He leaves the ball short too often. He does not have the ability to anticipate and lead receivers into catches and plays. He still hesitates if receivers aren't wide open except on throws to the sideline. He's still too risk averse.

His "numbers" belie poor productivity.

ANY decent QB would do more with what he has to work with than he has. Maurer in limited time did. Shrout pretty obviously isn't ready but did compare well in the USCe game.

JG has strengths. But his flaws are fatal to running a productive O.

 

[FranklinVFL]

If Maurer comes back in against Bama it could have got interesting. Maurer was just starting to play really good.

If Tua doesn’t leave the game it doesn’t get interesting...if the refs do not call a ridiculous unsportsmanlike penalty on DT it gets interesting...if JG does not fumble at the 1-yard line for a BAMA scoop and score it gets interesting. There a several of these each game.

There is a saying “if ifs and buts we’re candy and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas.

I try to stay away from those type predictions because nothing can be proven one way or another and it can drive you mad thinking about them.

 

[BBaseball]

I'm sure teams are going to beat down his door!! LoL, I mean why would they not? He was lightly recruited out of high school and he's done very little in 2 years in Knoxville. I guess he can send them tape of him warming up. JT was always a project and he's simply not ready yet. He's raw and young raw players get chewed up in this league. He's nowhere near the best QB on this roster and it's laughable to think he is. Best SEC frame for a QB on our roster for sure, + arm strength yes, but after those 2 skill sets he doesn't do any thing else it takes to play the position any better than JG.

A JG fanboy's position on Shrout vs JG doesn't worry me the least but
not seeing that Shrout is 10 times better than JG is what worries me about Pruitt.
Heck anybody is better than JG.

 

[rocytop2624]

If Tua doesn’t leave the game it doesn’t get interesting...if the refs do not call a ridiculous unsportsmanlike penalty on DT it gets interesting...if JG does not fumble at the 1-yard line for a BAMA scoop and score it gets interesting. There a several of these each game.

There is a saying “if ifs and buts we’re candy and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas.

I try to stay away from those type predictions because nothing can be proven one way or another and it can drive you mad thinking about them.

Maurer wanted to come back in Tua was done.

 

[FranklinVFL]

Maurer wanted to come back in Tua was done.

And seeing that Maurer went to VUMC afterwards is a pretty good sign he was not the best judge of his own health.

 

[Ty4Vols]

The never JG crowd continues to do this, it doesn't fit their narrative when JG performs well enough to win. It's always his fault in their eyes. Hard to believe that they can't see when the whole team plays good we win and when the team plays bad we lose, regardless of who is at QB. There are very few game changing QBs out there in the college game today, we, like 95% of college programs, do not have a game changing QB on our roster.

Hmmmm......
Funny, I wrote this to the person you replied to earlier. But you'd rather make up stuff than know the facts. You can read what I wrote. It will kill your false narrative.
So, you are supporting the person that gave sole credit to JG for the wins and not the person who gave credit to the team. And to defend the JG only crowd you used a defense that we need to support the team?!?!?! Lol you're one funny guy!

"I guess my point is JG has helped a lot but giving him sole credit for either game just isn't something I can agree with. He was a critical factor for both wins so i don't want to come off as not giving the man his credit. I see it as it deserves half a win for each."

 

[rocytop2624]

Agree. If he were my son, I would have advised him to sit out a week as well. Has everything to do with your health after football. These guys have fought side by side this year. To say they don’t want JG in there simply because they have seen first hand his pain during practice is absurd.

This is what I didn't like watching JG hurting with a broken wrist playing could have fumbled and we had 3 other guys that could play QB and 2 did play .