Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

[Rishvol]

Government hates the people

You just broke his heart

 

[ChismsHeadband]

Government hates the people

So edgy

 

[scvolfan7]

Repaid mine, took 15 years or so but i did it. Lots of people do.

That doesn’t mean that it’s a good thing though. We live in the richest country on earth and could easily make public education free and forgive debt

 

[bignewt]

I could ask personal questions like when you graduated, what your field was, if you had scholarships, if you had a good job relatively soon after graduating, but everyone's situation is unique. This chart speaks to the broader trends.

Graduated in 95
BA Advertising but became a video producer
No scholarships 2 years in state 2 years out of state tuition
My first few jobs paid crap.

 

[jakez4ut]

I could ask personal questions like when you graduated, what your field was, if you had scholarships, if you had a good job relatively soon after graduating, but everyone's situation is unique. This chart speaks to the broader trends.

it's all relative. when i graduated, the job i got paid like $30k/year. that same job today is nearly double that salary.....

at the end of the day, it still matters how manage your money.

and what you're willing to do for work, regardless of what your degree may be in.....

 

[bignewt]

That doesn’t mean that it’s a good thing though. We live in the richest country on earth and could easily make public education free and forgive debt

So the taxpayers pay for college education? The government administers? Yeah sure because the government is so good at that sort of thing.

 

[scvolfan7]

Government hates the people

I’ve had my guillotine ready to go for a while now. Volnation, y’all tryna wil’ out?

 

[scvolfan7]

So the taxpayers pay for college education? The government administers? Yeah sure because the government is so good at that sort of thing.

Millionaires and corporations don’t pay nearly as much in taxes as they should so yeah. Amazon paid zero in taxes. How does that make any sense?

 

[ChismsHeadband]

Graduated in 95
BA Advertising but became a video producer
No scholarships 2 years in state 2 years out of state tuition
My first few jobs paid crap.

Congrats on making it, sincerely. I've been able to pay off ~$13k of my ~$40k over 7 years, even with crap wages for the first few years and meh wages now.

Success stories are great, but there's an underlying problem is those success stories come fewer and further between.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

Millionaires and corporations don’t pay nearly as much in taxes as they should so yeah. Amazon paid zero in taxes. How does that make any sense?

Because Bezos is a genius and he earned all of it all by himself with zero help from an educated workforce or tax incentives for his headquarters and distribution centers.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I could ask personal questions like when you graduated, what your field was, if you had scholarships, if you had a good job relatively soon after graduating, but everyone's situation is unique. This chart speaks to the broader trends.

IMO college is a complete waste of time for most people. There are some degrees where it is worth it such as medical field degrees or most trade school things like welding, mechanic.... etc. However, for the majority of people degrees are worthless. For example I work with a guy who has a 2 year business degree, and a 4 year bachelors degree in business with a minor. He makes 25 cents more than me because he has been with the company longer than I have. He is still a ton of money in debt trying to pay off school for a degree that hasn't given him any advantages. I for instance only have a 2 year degree and we are at the same exact level.

 

[jakez4ut]

Millionaires and corporations don’t pay nearly as much in taxes as they should so yeah. Amazon paid zero in taxes. How does that make any sense?

cause everyone wants Amazon to build distribution centers in thier city/states and put hundreds/thousands of people to work.

except NYC that is....lol.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

IMO college is a complete waste of time for most people. There are some degrees where it is worth it such as medical field degrees or most trade school things like welding, mechanic.... etc. However, for the majority of people degrees are worthless. For example I work with a guy who has a 2 year business degree, and a 4 year bachelors degree in business with a minor. He makes 25 cents more than me because he has been with the company longer than I have. He is still a ton of money in debt trying to pay off school for a degree that hasn't given him any advantages. I for instance only have a 2 year degree and we are at the same exact level.

That is true.

Trade schools were taboo up until the recession hit and then everyone is looking in disbelief at the $35/hr plumber wage.

With me, I was an A/B student throughout k-12, and because no one in my family had gone to college before, I was expected to because that was "the path". Do well in school, go to college, get a good job, and live the American dream.

There was no guidance with me. Family didn't know the pitfalls of college. School counselors treated me like I was smart enough to figure it out (or they were more worried about C/D/D- students, idk)

But it's definitely a potential trap if you're not prepared for it.

 

[Aesius]

IMO college is a complete waste of time for most people. There are some degrees where it is worth it such as medical field degrees or most trade school things like welding, mechanic.... etc. However, for the majority of people degrees are worthless. For example I work with a guy who has a 2 year business degree, and a 4 year bachelors degree in business with a minor. He makes 25 cents more than me because he has been with the company longer than I have. He is still a ton of money in debt trying to pay off school for a degree that hasn't given him any advantages. I for instance only have a 2 year degree and we are at the same exact level.

It's worth it for STEM, connections, and for landing internships to get your foot in the door in certain fields. It's also a nice "holding pen" for millions of 18-24 year olds who don't know what they want to do with their lives.

 

[scvolfan7]

cause everyone wants Amazon to build distribution centers in thier city/states and put hundreds/thousands of people to work.

except NYC that is....lol.

Yeah you mean that one facility? Damn that’s so generous of them and should definitely exclude them from paying the taxes they should.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Repaid mine, took 15 years or so but i did it. Lots of people do.

Shouldn’t matter.

If we only based laws on “I had to go through it so you should too” then we’ll never get anything done.

 

[vol2002]

Because Bezos is a genius and he earned all of it all by himself with zero help from an educated workforce or tax incentives for his headquarters and distribution centers.

If the government confiscated all of Bezo’s assets and liquidated them, they would pay to run the government for a handful of days...

If government services are expanded to cover Medicare for all and college education everyone on this board will be paying significantly more in taxes within a very short period thereafter. There ain’t enough rich people in the country to take up that bill.

 

[itsme]

I could ask personal questions like when you graduated, what your field was, if you had scholarships, if you had a good job relatively soon after graduating, but everyone's situation is unique. This chart speaks to the broader trends.

Government backed loans, the administrators get richer and saddle the poor with student loans. They tell all these kids in high school that they can't be anything without a college degree and the kids listen. There are other ways and other jobs fields that don't require them. My co-worker has a psychology degree and now works as a draftsman he makes way better money now.
Also, I sent my wife back to school 10 years ago with two kids, we acquired some loans on her behalf and this year we paid them off. The reason I paid them off is because I signed my name to a contract and I am a man of my word. Every borrower should buck up and do the right thing and be a man or woman of their word.

 

[vol2002]

There’s a reason the European Union still hasn’t blown past the US economically and still relies heavily on the US militarily, despite having more people, etc. It has to do with socialism, taxes and unfunded entitlements weighing down on their economies...

 

[volfanCLT]

Shouldn’t matter.

If we only based laws on “I had to go through it so you should too” then we’ll never get anything done.

Why should debt be forgiven for people who willingly entered into it as adults?

Can we do mortgages and the payment on my truck while we’re at it?

 

[jakez4ut]

Yeah you mean that one facility? Damn that’s so generous of them and should definitely exclude them from paying the taxes they should.

it's a coporate headquarters....would have employed like 5k people iirc.....that's a lot of jobs.........probably pretty good ones too. not just your typical warehouse worker types you have for the FC's they put up.

ain't no skin off my back. would love it if they came to Charlotte. we already have 3 distribution centers here.....not a bad thing.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

So edgy

no edge just facts

 

[itsme]

Shouldn’t matter.

If we only based laws on “I had to go through it so you should too” then we’ll never get anything done.

Why not honor yourself and do the right thing? My kids will go through college in a few years we are working on setting them up to work hard while in school, with studies and a job to get done with it and be paid in full or close to it by the time they get out. It takes proper strategies and work ethic. Stop being a bunch of pansies.

 

[jakez4ut]

Shouldn’t matter.

If we only based laws on “I had to go through it so you should too” then we’ll never get anything done.

i don't think that's the reason.

my reason would be...i paid mine already...and my wife's. so now you're telling i gotta chip in for all of y'alls too?

count me out. lol.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Why not honor yourself and do the right thing? My kids will go through college in a few years we are working on setting them up to work hard while in school, with studies and a job to get done with it and be paid in full or close to it by the time they get out. It takes proper strategies and work ethic. Stop being a bunch of pansies.

Going to college is very overrated unless you’re getting a real degree. Engineering, etc