You should read the firsthand accounts. They were hyped up on meth and psychadelics and many of them murdered with pleasure. Only a few of those brought to trial were reluctant. One of the firsthand accounts is free online -- believe it's Tex's account. None of it would've happened without Manson as the spark but the spark was there and they were very capable of it. Manson wasn't even there when the murders went down (that's culpability - they went out on their own to prove themselves). And one of the women, was pretty bloodthirsty.
Fair enough. And let's be honest.. these guys are glorified PE coaches. Guys like Ed O (and Germy) just make that part of it obvious and that makes us question their pay.
Sorry to be picky, but Jimmy Hyams was an absolute idiot long before he threw out the 50k number. Jimmy should have been put out to pasture years ago. But you're right, I've been there when there were 40k - 50k. Saturday was in the 65k - 72k was my guess. Would have been real close to the first few games if the students hadn't been on break.