Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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volbeast33 said:
I agree with that but players concerns about it not getting players ready for the NFL are valid. Passing offense relies more on pre set reads, limited route tree for the receivers, and rbs going against limited guys in the box. We need some guys to break through.
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I get that too, but If player A didn’t learn a full route tree in college, why would that preclude him from doing so in the NFL?

So to me, if the talent is there, no matter where they went to college it will eventually show up in the NFL. Now, the argument of draft position being lower holds more water imo
 
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BigSteve09 said:
What the scouts are telling each other, and coaches, and apparently the media is that the Veer N Shoot QBs, WRs, RBs, TEs, OL may very well be great NFL prospects, but they (scouts) still have some finding out to do. Whereas players from other systems have more "NFL-ready" reps on tape, and presumably more "NFL-ready" training/prep under their belts. The players from this system will still be drafted on potential, but they are still seen as raw compared to other prospects.
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I can actually see that
 
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BigSteve09 said:
It seems that the prevailing opinion among CFB media personalities and now NFL Draft media personalities (and scouts) is that the Briles' Baylor Veer N Shoot, and now the Heupel/Tennessee variant, do not prepare players on offense for the NFL.

This was said last year when NFL people were evaluating Wright. It's being said this year about Sampson. It had been said about our WRs and QBs in the Draft. The Nico saga for the past two weeks has brought this back out.

This isn't just a few people talking about it. This is being stated so matter-of-factly that it is a foregone conclusion. It even made it to Pardon My Take, which is the most listened to sports podcast. You can't get any more mainstream.

We (UT fans, maybe staff) can dismiss it all we want, but it's out there in a major way. Not just among our conference rivals and opponents on the recruiting trail/portal, NFL scouts are just walking around saying this to anyone that will listen.
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It’s a valid concern, Heupel’s job is to win at Tennessee. But part of that requires elite players and if Tennessee has issues getting them due to the offense then that’s a valid issue
 
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VOLumeS said:
Scary.. Pavia is a ok QB not a Tennessee level QB, Hopefully with better coaching we won't have to ask "why?" So much. You want your QB to be solid decision maker.
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He looks like a way better thrower than Pavia. Pavia is pretty average outside of his toughness and drive. He’s good at improvising but doesn’t have a strong arm or good mechanics. Aguilar has a really good arm and can make all the throws. I’m just worried if he’ll pick up the offense quickly or not.
 
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Midas said:
He looks like a way better thrower than Pavia. Pavia is pretty average outside of his toughness and drive. He’s good at improvising but doesn’t have a strong arm or good mechanics. Aguilar has a really good arm and can make all the throws. I’m just worried if he’ll pick up the offense quickly or not.
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Sounds like you did some film study, i appreciate that.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I’m not denying that the offense can have an advantage in the running game. But if the narrative that all skilled players just merely benefit from the scheme, it’s lazy. If we average almost 5 ypc, Sampson averaged about 6 ypc over 3 years. You have to watch what he brings. If you see what he does in the open field, then that tells an NFL OC to get him in space. We have guys who can excel at the next level.
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I'm in no way diminishing Sampson or his skills. But it is fact that this scheme affords runners advantage in numbers and spacing.
 
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Midas said:
No worries. If you watch his highlights there are some things to be excited about with his deep ball accuracy. I think the comparison with Pavia is just cause they are both Hispanic. People always do stuff like that lol.
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His interceptions are an issue from what I've watched I only watched the ECU highlights well parts of it, and the Clemson video. He reminds me of JG, In a different offense. Edit i was wrong different high schools than JG
 
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triadvolfan said:
It's to rest half of our receivers so we can avoid substituting and keep the defense on the field.

Given we slowed our pace with Nico last year it's less relevant but when we were hiking the ball every 10 seconds it created an advantage.
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Thank you, that makes sense if your running plays at a fast pace......... But they way we ran it last year at the slower pace doesn't make sense.
 
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Some simple logic. JA. played for Appy State. Level of talent he played with and against impacted both his performance and development. He tried to force things to happen at times.

Heup sees what he can do with development that will lead to the performance we need. That helps the QB room overall because they know JA is experienced and in his last year of eligibility.

Honestly believe this will work out well for the team overall. Was not feeling good about the season with Nico because it was becoming all about him within his family and a lot of the fanbase. All I was seeing from fans, analysts and the media was how everybody on the O except Nico were weak links. Which was not true at all.

Nico was an early trial for going big on one key player with NIL. Learn from it an move on.
 
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So I was talking to someone and said I'd hoped NICO would at least have produced like DJ Lagway with the Gators. And then I looked at DJ Lagway's numbers Yikes. Not good. Then I found this snippet (thanks AI):

He holds an On3 NIL Valuation of $3.8 million, seventh among college athletes and fourth among football players, and has deals with Gatorade, Nintendo, Epic Games and Leaf Trading Cards.

With his numbers last year, 3.8 million?
 
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