Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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screenthis said:
From Will West and Off The Hook Sports, Tennessee is just not on the same level with NIL cash regarding Big 10 teams. Welp, that's not good given that $$$$ now is a big factor on who wins.
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We are talking like 2-3 teams here not a whole damn league. Many of them also are putting all their eggs in a couple baskets. MI was ass in basketball and so was OSU. Conversely there are squads dumping all their money into basketball stuff. We are literally swinging with the big boys in every sport even ones specialized. No - we will not be the top spender in every facet. It is fine. We are fine. If you want to help then contribute.
 
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VolGee4 said:
We are also in a unique situation where our two (really 3 but not sure how much NIL is spent on baseball) big sports have recently played at elite levels, and we’ve spent big money on both. What other schools are in that class? Alabama, maybe Auburn without results, Michigan (but football wasn’t good), Oregon. Ohio State isn’t even good in basketball.
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I've been thinking the same thing. I wonder if relative to top competition in each sport, football lags all other Tennessee programs in available NIL.

We go nuts in the baseball portal. Not without Tony, but also not without top NIL. And basketball is on a role. Also not without Barnes, but also not without booming NIL.
 
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screenthis said:
From Will West and Off The Hook Sports, Tennessee is just not on the same level with NIL cash regarding Big 10 teams. Welp, that's not good given that $$$$ now is a big factor on who wins.
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I don't have any respect for Off the Hook. They always find a way to troll UT for engagement.
 
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Orange. said:
I've been thinking the same thing. I wonder if relative to top competition in each sports, football lags any other Tennessee program. We go nuts in the baseball portal. Not without Tony, but also not without top NIL.
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Uh, Kirby's dad has stated many times our Baseball NIL isn't as great as individuals think it is. CTV don't play the money game it's if you want to win come on but if you're looking for money keep a trucking.
 
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Orange. said:
I don't have any respect for Off the Hook. They always find a way to troll UT for engagement.
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Yep
They hate the university it seems

Will and ovens were coddling Nico earlier in the week and then Dr Jerry punch came on and crushed the Nico coalition and they haven’t said much since really

But yes
Dave hooker, will and Tyler can kick rocks

Those three suck
 
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Jimmy Football said:
This is somewhat in contradiction to reports that we’re about to have one of the most expensive basketball rosters in the country (provided we land who we’re targeting).

It would be strange if our booster base was willing to pay for a basketball roster but not football. Now is Heup and crew going to the same lengths as Barnes to solicit the funds? That’s an open question, I think.
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I wouldn't be surprised to learn football is an afterthought to them trying to load the basketball roster and make a push to a title for Barnes before he retires. . .

. . . Then again, I believe the funds will be there if we get interest from a generational type of player, just like they were there for Nico when he was considered that type of recruit out of high-school.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
it aint retirees moving to Nashville. its mostly people fleeing California. Texas and Tennessee are the states where most Californians are leaving to
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A lot of young adults moving to Nashville, too. It's the "in" city in the south and to a great extent in the whole country. We need that place orange.
 
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Aesius said:
The financial math ain't mathing for younger people who want to start a family. Unless you have a household income of $150k-200k (even in LCOL areas) good luck affording:

-Mortgage, especially with rates being what they are now
-Daycare (one parent can stay home but being out of the workforce for years puts you behind career-wise, plus most families need two incomes even without the cost of childcare factored in)
-Groceries
-Student loan payments
-Car payments
-Home maintenance
-Retirement funding
-Contributing to any semblance of a college fund for your kids

Parents get a break once the kids are in school, but oh, if you didn't buy a house in a great school district you've gotta consider private school, so any daycare savings now go straight back out the door. And as kids get older their extracurriculars cost more. Have fun paying for travel ball for two kids for 7-8 years, plus private coaching and whatever else parents pay for these days in the hopes their kids will get a scholarship or go pro.

Combine all of those insane expenses with a dismal dating scene and countless media outlets telling young people how awful marriage and kids are and yeah. It's no surprise Gen Z is opting out of it. And it's definitely a problem.
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Just curious but is your avi Hubbard?
 
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Aesius said:
The financial math ain't mathing for younger people who want to start a family. Unless you have a household income of $150k-200k (even in LCOL areas) good luck affording:

-Mortgage, especially with rates being what they are now
-Daycare (one parent can stay home but being out of the workforce for years puts you behind career-wise, plus most families need two incomes even without the cost of childcare factored in)
-Groceries
-Student loan payments
-Car payments
-Home maintenance
-Retirement funding
-Contributing to any semblance of a college fund for your kids

Parents get a break once the kids are in school, but oh, if you didn't buy a house in a great school district you've gotta consider private school, so any daycare savings now go straight back out the door. And as kids get older their extracurriculars cost more. Have fun paying for travel ball for two kids for 7-8 years, plus private coaching and whatever else parents pay for these days in the hopes their kids will get a scholarship or go pro.

Combine all of those insane expenses with a dismal dating scene and countless media outlets telling young people how awful marriage and kids are and yeah. It's no surprise Gen Z is opting out of it. And it's definitely a problem.
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I can think of infinitely worse times to have a kid that didn't result in collapsed birth rates.
 
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Jimmy Football said:
This is somewhat in contradiction to reports that we’re about to have one of the most expensive basketball rosters in the country (provided we land who we’re targeting).

It would be strange if our booster base was willing to pay for a basketball roster but not football. Now is Heup and crew going to the same lengths as Barnes to solicit the funds? That’s an open question, I think.
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Will West is just talking. Our NIL is really good and we spend when we want to. Our basketball team will be top dollar and we overspent on many football players this year. They don’t know true numbers.
 
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screenthis said:
From Will West and Off The Hook Sports, Tennessee is just not on the same level with NIL cash regarding Big 10 teams. Welp, that's not good given that $$$$ now is a big factor on who wins.
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we had a significant advantage by being the first program with a legitimate NIL collective and operation

we were first to the table in a major way, and had an opportunity for it to be a big differentiator for us, but now everyone has caught up to us. as mentioned, some have passed us
 
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