Pruitt "obviously" in trouble

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JMSqb11 said:
Mullen is at his second head coaching gig and went to conference title game in year 3 and year 12 overall. Leach has never done that. But hey, congrats on setting records for wins in a year while not winning the division or conference.
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At Florida. Context. Florida is a school where any competent coach has a decent shot at winning the division. Especially since the east is Georgia, them and a pile of trash these days. Even Jim McElwain went two years in a row and Florida has been there 3 of the last 6 years. At schools like Texas Tech, Washington State and Mississippi State you have to be an incredible coach to even sniff a conference title. The only coach who won a Pac 10 title at Washington State in the last 80 years parlayed that into the Alabama job.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
At Florida. Context. Florida is a school where any competent coach has a decent shot at winning the division. Especially since the east is Georgia, them and a pile of trash these days. Even Jim McElwain went two years in a row and Florida has been there 3 of the last 6 years. At schools like Texas Tech, Washington State and Mississippi State you have to be an incredible coach to even sniff a conference title. The only coach who won a Pac 10 title at Washington State in the last 80 years parlayed that into the Alabama job.
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So Mullen lucked into going from Starkville to Gainesville somehow but Leach can’t for the life of him find a big program to hire him? Sure sounds like a problem a great coach wouldn’t and shouldn’t have. After all, you people have clamored and bang the drum that Leach is some great coach
 
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BeardedVol said:
What does Dan Mullen having 9 years of HC experience have to do with the fact that he didn't have a conference title game appearances in any of those 9 years?

You predicated you entire argument on Leach's lack of conference title game appearances, and then tried to argue that Mullen was somehow different, because he'd been an assistant on an NC winning team.

Is this just an elaborate attempt to back pedal, or have you really forgotten what you posted?
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Some people are just adept at moving the goal posts when they are losing the argument. There are many people on Volnation that are quite good at it.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
So Mullen lucked into going from Starkville to Gainesville somehow but Leach can’t for the life of him find a big program to hire him? Sure sounds like a problem a great coach wouldn’t and shouldn’t have. After all, you people have clamored and bang the drum that Leach is some great coach
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Tennessee hired Leach, then backed out. Leach was happy at Texas Tech. He won big there and made plenty of money. He'd have retired there if not for the Craig James lies.

Mullen didn't luck into anything. He's an excellent coach just like I said. You're the one saying Leach sucks but Mullen doesn't even though they have virtually identical careers (Leach actually more successful) at lower tier schools.
 
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Eh I’m not crazy about Campbell, it’s good what he’s done at osu, but he still been 7-6 or 8-5 every year. My list would look like this:

1. Meyer (open checkbook. Bring whoever you want. Maybe luke fickell as head coach in waiting?)




2. Fickell, Freeze, Napier, Chadwell (muschamp as dc for whoever is hired). Every one of these 4 coaches (especially fickell and Napier) has had an incredible jump in record in the second year of each head coaching stint (a true measure of ability to change culture and develop players).
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Tennessee hired Leach, then backed out. Leach was happy at Texas Tech. He won big there and made plenty of money. He'd have retired there if not for the Craig James lies.

Mullen didn't luck into anything. He's an excellent coach just like I said. You're the one saying Leach sucks but Mullen doesn't even though they have virtually identical careers (Leach actually more successful) at lower tier schools.
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I'm beginning to think this guy would argue a square peg through a round hole if he could. He has no proof that Leach is a bad coach and just offers up a baseless opinion. And he has accused others of mental gymnastics when he's clearly the one who has used it the entire night.

I'm sure he was against Leach being hired here because Leach didn't fit his Tennessee values. I think that's all it boils down to.
 
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vol_in_ga said:
Eh I’m not crazy about Campbell, it’s good what he’s done at osu, but he still been 7-6 or 8-5 every year. My list would look like this:

1. Meyer (open checkbook. Bring whoever you want. Maybe luke fickell as head coach in waiting?)




2. Fickell, Freeze, Napier, Chadwell (muschamp as dc for whoever is hired). Every one of these 4 coaches (especially fickell and Napier) has had an incredible jump in record in the second year of each head coaching stint (a true measure of ability to change culture and develop players).
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Coaching at Iowa State is like coaching at Mississippi State. You can only do so much there. If your good enough you will leave for greener pastures. Which is what Johnny Majors and Gene Chizik did.

Meyer isn't coming here. We should probably just give up that idea. And neither is Freeze. The others you mentioned would be more realistic possibilities. I would prefer Derek Mason as DC over Muschamp.
 
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This controversy and the very real possibility that Pruitt gets fired is actually alot of fun...since simply winning doesn't seem to be an option we are most times not afforded...a fun controversial coach firing and search is oddly a source of hope. The speculation is fun. Hey ...if they won't let us enjoy any wins...a controversial coaching change and search is at least interesting. Bring on the bogus insiders...the controversy....the drama. Let's do this.
 
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DonjoVol said:
We need a coach who has done the following:

1. Has won or has taken his team to the National Championship game.
2. Has beaten Bama.

That leaves only a handful of coaches. Les Miles, Malzahn, and Chizik are three of them. I think Les has seen his best days and Kansas is just a complete mess that he can't even win there right now. Chizik hasn't coached in awhile and probably has no desire anytime soon. That leaves Malzahn. We at least owe Malzahn the chance to interview for the job if it becomes open. And would be a realistic option for us.
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Plus he would be a more adult hire which TN might need to go with at this time
 
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dduncan4163 said:
We are 3-7 Under NCAA Investigation in year 3.

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Under our own investigation.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Then why do we have CJP? Why did we have the most embarrassing coaching search in modern college football history previously? And...... most of all...... why are we currently ranked about #90?

I get the "rah rah" idea but seriously...... why are we here AGAIN if this is a top 10 job?
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This makes a lot of sense. Can’t argue with the logic here
 
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Vol2B said:
UT isn't a top 10 job. Top 25 maybe, and that's a stretch. But that's just like, my opinion man. UT has to find a coach with a particular set of skills. As in, actually wants to be here, and can actually coach at this level.
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Apparently you have missed all the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Why would the pandemic have anything to do it? The narrative of colleges not firing coaches this year because of decreased revenues from the pandemic has been blown out of the water.
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I haven’t missed anything. None of them are Tennessee. It’s 100% obvious Pruitt will remain the head coach. UNLESS they find a problem and can fire him for cause. Which is unlikely.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Zero. However, he was former coach at Florida during two natty’s and a Heisman campaign developed by him. There’s a reason Leach wasn’t getting looks at big program openings, even the programs he was a former assistant at.

There’s a reason Leach was coach 15,000 on our list and Mullen was the first option.

Literally no comparison between Mullen and Leach. Mullen is drastically a better coach
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Geez, you can beat a dead horse like nobody else. Tiresome.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I'm beginning to think this guy would argue a square peg through a round hole if he could. He has no proof that Leach is a bad coach and just offers up a baseless opinion. And he has accused others of mental gymnastics when he's clearly the one who has used it the entire night.

I'm sure he was against Leach being hired here because Leach didn't fit his Tennessee values. I think that's all it boils down to.
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He is exhausting. WTH is Leach the measuring stick for everything the guy throws out? It’s like he has a one-track mind.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Actually my point was very clear. Mullen got a big time head coaching gig at a school he worked at previously as OC because of his record at a little program in big conference. Sadly for all of the greatness of Mike Leach, he’s never got a big job offer. Wonder why

Sadly, let’s not leave out the fact you obviously had to be told tonight that Mullen didn’t jump from OC to HC at Florida as you weren’t aware of him coaching at MSU for 9 years. But yes, please try to insert yourself into a discussion and do mental gymnastics because you had to be updated on a pretty well known fact that Mullen was a head coach for 9 years before Florida job. Get some sleep kid
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Wow... So you really believe that Mullen was offered the Florida HC job, primarily, because he was an assistant on Meyer's staff that won NCs there, and not because of the job he did as an HC at Mississippi State?

LOL.
 
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