Oliviyah Edwards requesting out

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Volstylexx said:
Ok. What about Jewel Spear and Sara Puckett? They didn’t quit…. And yet they say the exact same thing publicly this weekend. You want to disparage them too?
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Blows my mind the depths people are going to defend this coach, who is apparently just as garbage at interpersonal relationships as she is at X's and O's
 
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KnoxLikeUs said:
Right, old news ain’t moving nobody. The visitors are rolling in.
GBO🍊.
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The 2 we have set are good starting places but we need some proven talent beside them or it’ll be a repeat of last year. You can’t field a team of mid majors and expect anything besides mid major basketball.
 
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That’s your opinion. You don’t know what the roster will consist of. The ones from last season you would consider Power 4 players barely beat Belmont and UT Martin.
volfan__18 said:
The 2 we have set are good starting places but we need some proven talent beside them or it’ll be a repeat of last year. You can’t field a team of mid majors and expect anything besides mid major basketball.
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VolFan_stuck_in_the_901 said:
Blows my mind the depths people are going to defend this coach, who is apparently just as garbage at interpersonal relationships as she is at X's and O's
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Blows my mind how people believe anything they hear. Everyone was kissing ass last year. The minute she has a bad year everyone joins the hate train. Smh
 
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Does having the best or highly ranked players matter? I personally think so. This is a working hypothesis and can be disproven but I am rolling with it until proven otherwise. Here's why. The best indicator I have for success at this time is the consistent recipe for past success.

Last 10 years of women's champions: (you can easily go back much further than this and it's the same exact pattern but for arguments sake)

2026: UCLA
Key Players: Lauren Betts - #1 recruit, Kiki Rice - #1 recruit

2025: UConn
Key Players: Paige Bueckers - #1 recruit, Azzi Fudd - #1 recruit, Sarah Strong #1 recruit

2024: South Carolina
Key Players: Kamilla Cardoso - top 5 recruit, Te-Hina Paopao - top 15 recruit, Raven Johnson - #2 recruit

2023: LSU
Key Players: Angel Reese #2 recruit, Flau'jae Johnson - top 25, Alexis Morris - top 10

2022: South Carolina
Key Players: Aliyah Boston - #1 recruit, Zia Cooke - #1 recruit, Destanni Henderson - top 10

2021: Stanford
Key Players: Hayley Jones - #1 recruit, Cam Brink - #3 recruit, Kiana Williams - top 10

2020: Covid

2019: Baylor
Key Players: NaLyssa Smith - #1 recruit, Lauren Cox - top 5

2018: Notre Dame
Key Players: Arike Ogunbowale - top 10, Jackie Young - #1 recruit

2017: South Carolina
Key Players: A'ja Wilson - #1 recruit. Has a statue lol

2016: UConn
Key Players: Stewie - #1 recruit, Moriah Jefferson - top 5

And from our very own Lady Vol Teams: 2008 Candace Parker, 2007 Candace Parker, 1998 Chamique Holdsclaw/Tamika Catchings, 1997 Chamique Holdsclaw, 1996 Chamique Holdsclaw, etc.

There are for sure some role players, some mid major talent, some jucos, all of that mixed in amongst the teams in these scenarios. But, the reality is, if you look at even the last decade+ of champions, every team had multiple top-tier recruits, often a #1 or multiple top 10-15 players. You don't just win with hard work and system. It's elite talent + system + development imo. I mean, we could reinvent the wheel but... not betting on it.

I want anyone who is kidding themselves that this doesn't matter to not be misled or deluded. It absolutely matters.
 
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Mr.Vol2U said:
Blows my mind how people believe anything they hear. Everyone was kissing ass last year. The minute she has a bad year everyone joins the hate train. Smh
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I mean the proof is in the pudding at this point. I was all wait-and-see through the season, but if literally every player and recruit is leaving, it gets really tough to explain away. A rough season is explainable. This mass exodus…. Something stinks and there aren’t many people left to blame.
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
I mean the proof is in the pudding at this point. I was all wait-and-see through the season, but if literally every player and recruit is leaving, it gets really tough to explain away. A rough season is explainable. This mass exodus…. Something stinks and there aren’t many people left to blame.
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I agree it is really tough to explain why and I’m not saying she is 100% innocent. Really strange though that no other former players had anything bad to say about her and she has always been successful wherever she has been at, minus this season. Something obviously went wrong
 
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brittannica said:
Have we officially released Big Oh yet, or are we still in the "requested release" phase?
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We have not officially released her yet. I don’t know how that all works, but I have to imagine it can’t be too simple to just release her from her LOI, Adidas contract, and whatever NLI contracts she may have signed. I’m sure there are some clauses in there
 
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VOL931 said:
She's not leaving but if I was the AD, I'd be calling her. Laugh anyone can if they want. But she'd turn it all around.
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I don't use these words often, but paying Dawn Staley is ******* dumb. she makes almost as much as Rick Barnes.

Let's be real, women's college basketball is a third tier sport and being "good" at it brings almost nothing to the table financially. You don't have to like it, but it's true. The same thing goes for baseball. we should never be investing heavily there until the football program is making the CFP every year.

when we have a football program that is floundering and struggles to keep up with the other power football schools we should not be wasting a dime on a sport nobody really cares about financially.
 
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SummittSoul said:
Does having the best or highly ranked players matter? I personally think so. This is a working hypothesis and can be disproven but I am rolling with it until proven otherwise. Here's why. The best indicator I have for success at this time is the consistent recipe for past success.

Last 10 years of women's champions: (you can easily go back much further than this and it's the same exact pattern but for arguments sake)

2026: UCLA
Key Players: Lauren Betts - #1 recruit, Kiki Rice - #1 recruit

2025: UConn
Key Players: Paige Bueckers - #1 recruit, Azzi Fudd - #1 recruit, Sarah Strong #1 recruit

2024: South Carolina
Key Players: Kamilla Cardoso - top 5 recruit, Te-Hina Paopao - top 15 recruit, Raven Johnson - #2 recruit

2023: LSU
Key Players: Angel Reese #2 recruit, Flau'jae Johnson - top 25, Alexis Morris - top 10

2022: South Carolina
Key Players: Aliyah Boston - #1 recruit, Zia Cooke - #1 recruit, Destanni Henderson - top 10

2021: Stanford
Key Players: Hayley Jones - #1 recruit, Cam Brink - #3 recruit, Kiana Williams - top 10

2020: Covid

2019: Baylor
Key Players: NaLyssa Smith - #1 recruit, Lauren Cox - top 5

2018: Notre Dame
Key Players: Arike Ogunbowale - top 10, Jackie Young - #1 recruit

2017: South Carolina
Key Players: A'ja Wilson - #1 recruit. Has a statue lol

2016: UConn
Key Players: Stewie - #1 recruit, Moriah Jefferson - top 5

And from our very own Lady Vol Teams: 2008 Candace Parker, 2007 Candace Parker, 1998 Chamique Holdsclaw/Tamika Catchings, 1997 Chamique Holdsclaw, 1996 Chamique Holdsclaw, etc.

There are for sure some role players, some mid major talent, some jucos, all of that mixed in amongst the teams in these scenarios. But, the reality is, if you look at even the last decade+ of champions, every team had multiple top-tier recruits, often a #1 or multiple top 10-15 players. You don't just win with hard work and system. It's elite talent + system + development imo. I mean, we could reinvent the wheel but... not betting on it.

I want anyone who is kidding themselves that this doesn't matter to not be misled or deluded. It absolutely matters.
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Every single time Pat Summit was asked her secret to success, the first thing she said was get the best players. Everything else flows from that.
 
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