Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVI

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'Boro-vol said:
The clarification I got on that was that the two obvious choices, Hoke and Shoop, hate each other with the heat of a thousand sun's. That is why I was told Stripling is now the choice if they move forward.

It's less that nobody wants it, than nobody wants the other guy to have it.

It's a circus over there right now.
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What a cluster
 
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volinSmyrna said:
He is a "Clay" homer. Whichever way the wind blows that will benefit him is the way he goes. He rode Franklin's jock while he was at Vandy. He's been all aboard the fire Butch train for several weeks. If (sorry, when) Gruden comes to Knoxville, you will see him all over him.
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This 100 times over!
 
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iamadoc said:
The observer is in the press box with good view of field and sidelines, sees an issue, contacts the replay official, reviews the video, if the observer notices something they contact the ref. Ref stops play and pulls the player out for team medical staff to evaluate. Coaching staff has no say so
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But observer may not realize "that's not like Kendrick; he seems off". Butch & Wells on the other hand...
 
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preacherwebb said:
help me out here ... i don't keep up with clay, ain't he a vandy homer? hates UT?

reason i ask is, if that's so, then his report means more smoke boiling, rolling out of what's going on in Ktown.
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No. He's a huge Vols fan. He's like all of us, wants the very best for UT.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
If there really is a power struggle occurring behind this whole fiasco, it only makes sense that we’re seeing this power struggle play out before our very eyes in the form of a targeted information war. It is evident in this very thread (and others like it on other forums) and in the media. It seems fairly clear to me that folks like MIT and Bubba have been sent out by one side to fan the flames that JG can be had. It has been implied that hired professionals might even be in use for this purpose.

Perhaps the opponent didn’t expect such a direct and effective information onslaught, but once known, a response would be required. As we know, certain media members and other “insiders” are now consistently saying that the chances of landing JG are nearly zero – a calculated response from the opponent intended to extinguish the flames of information being fanned by the JG camp. It’s fully logical to expect a response, and most likely at least one reason why MIT predicted a rise in articles saying that JG would not be a good college coach.

I would think it’s useful for the targets of this information war – the average UT football fan – to be aware of what is happening. At a minimum, it should make everyone aware of the overwhelming importance of the average football fan in the outcome of this very painful process. After all, the only power that anyone is able to wield is the power given to them by others.
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We all know somebody...


That being said I will continue to stand by my statement that Gruden will not be the coach. its not popular and not what anyone wants to hear, but I feel its the truth.


I would love better than anything for Gruden to come because it would be a Saban type hire for us.
 
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SmokeyLives said:
Because Currie has his man and his man is part of the plan he presents today at 3 to BOT. He’s locked it down at the cost of looking like a buffoon by agreeing to a buyout with Butch after Georgia(the first chance to lower the boom). Butch provides cover to the situation by agreeing to stay through homecoming game, hence his droning depressed mood at pc’s. By keeping a lid on it, he knows he won’t have to hire search firms or look into bs alternatives because the boosters are through with those ways and what they’ve produced. It’s a new day.

Please 8 pound 6 oz baby Jesus let this be true.....
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Fingers crossed.
 
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apevol said:
So if I'm understanding the last few hours of this thread correctly, it is my duty to capture and castrate our athletic director.
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You have your mission, if you choose to accept it. This thread will self destruct in 3 2 1.........
 
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RockyTopSC said:
On the whole is John crazy or crazy like a fox debate I would offer the following. (Again not accusing or defending him just a thought). He was able to set up the mid season firing of a TN letterman, national championship, soon to be college HOF, orange to the core coach with one of the best win percentages in the history of the SEC. And remember at that point he was an assistant AD but was able to see opportunities and manipulate outcomes to the end he wanted.
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I am going with "Crazy like a fox" on this one

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C-town Vol said:
Because there is a plan.
The hardest thing Currie can do right now I keep Butch on the sidelines. It is a PR disaster and is causing people to intensely question his ability. Why would he choose to do the more difficult thing (let Butch keep coaching) when he knows he will have to fire Butch at some point? Simple. There is something in the plan that dictates he do the more difficult thing.
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We can only hope this is true. But I will believe it when I see it.
 
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apevol said:
So if I'm understanding the last few hours of this thread correctly, it is my duty to capture and castrate our athletic director.
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I don't think anyone has come out and said you should do that, but I don't think anyone would say anything if you did do that.........
 
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C-town Vol said:
Because there is a plan.
The hardest thing Currie can do right now I keep Butch on the sidelines. It is a PR disaster and is causing people to intensely question his ability. Why would he choose to do the more difficult thing (let Butch keep coaching) when he knows he will have to fire Butch at some point? Simple. There is something in the plan that dictates he do the more difficult thing.
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I tend to agree, but there are other possible scenarios too.
 
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2EastTnVols said:
But observer may not realize "that's not like Kendrick; he seems off". Butch & Wells on the other hand...
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Could they not see something was wrong when a 5th year Senior who has started a bunch of games lines up off the ball? I wasn't looking for anything, but after that penalty I said that was out of character. I find it hard to believe that they saw NOTHING to indicate he was struggling.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
The clarification I got on that was that the two obvious choices, Hoke and Shoop, hate each other with the heat of a thousand sun's. That is why I was told Stripling is now the choice if they move forward.

It's less that nobody wants it, than nobody wants the other guy to have it.

It's a circus over there right now.
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Here's a question you may not be able to answer Boro.

At what point does Currie finally step in and say "this is how it is, get over it, I"m the boss"?

From what it sounds like, it seems and excuse the term, the inmates are running the asylum
 
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ATPVol said:
Not sure if this is the house but it’s registered to a James and Susan Haslam.

Anyway....there’s a place called Peter Blow Bend?

Can’t make this stuff up.
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Peter Blow Bend was the original title of the song Blueberry Hill. Just didn't rhyme as well.
 
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