Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVI

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RockyTopSC said:
Based on my conversations I don’t think that is the case. I say that because my coach discussions with my guys have included Gruden and it has not been blown off nor have I been told it’s a fantasy.
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Thank you.... I know it would be opinion on your part but wondered how you saw it .... helps :good!:
 
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ShoopsScoops from TOS (join date Oct 6 2017) posted this (TIFWIW):

"Lock this one down. Jon Gruden, while he did purchase a home in the Knoxville area, has no intention of coaching at Tennessee in 2018. First-hand knowledge from someone who is as close to the man as you can really get"


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Skizer41 said:
Wait...... Isn't Hutch 7 a relative of the Gruden's????? Why would he be asking if they bought a place?

Maybe I am wrong or it is a different username.
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He was asking if this guy bought the Haslam's house, which is the information he heard. He was confirming what he heard.
 
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On the whole is John crazy or crazy like a fox debate I would offer the following. (Again not accusing or defending him just a thought). He was able to set up the mid season firing of a TN letterman, national championship, soon to be college HOF, orange to the core coach with one of the best win percentages in the history of the SEC. And remember at that point he was an assistant AD but was able to see opportunities and manipulate outcomes to the end he wanted.
 
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baburntt said:
ShoopsScoops from TOS (join date Oct 6 2017) posted this (TIFWIW):

"Lock this one down. Jon Gruden, while he did purchase a home in the Knoxville area, has no intention of coaching at Tennessee in 2018. First-hand knowledge from someone who is as close to the man as you can really get"


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Smokescreen
 
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RockyTopSC said:
On the whole is John crazy or crazy like a fox debate I would offer the following. (Again not accusing or defending him just a thought). He was able to set up the mid season firing of a TN letterman, national championship, soon to be college HOF, orange to the core coach with one of the win percentages in the history of the SEC. And remember at that point he was an assistant AD but was able to see opportunities and manipulate outcomes to the end he wanted.
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Which leaves us scratching our heads as to why an unmitigated disaster is still prowling our sidelines on Saturdays.
 
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Behr said:
I believe this too.


I believe this is fact.
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I also believe it, and if what the Beav says is true (to clarify, I don't blindly believe the Beav, this comes from several places...just easier to say the beav), the boosters are pushing for a better UT all the way around. I also want this. I think it marks a super positive change.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Exactly. It's not reasonable to expect Butch to manage the game while also being in the weeds of every conceivable sideline matter. That's why assistants have responsibilities in-game.

Thus, it is not negligence for Jones to not have known. Negligence hinges on reasonable expectations and personal responsibility. It is not reasonable to expect Butch to know all of the specifics at any given time.

We all pretty much want him gone, but we don't need to create a fiction to do it.
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You've made a giant leap of logic which gives you a faulty conclusion for two separate reasons.

1. Does this situation fall under the auspices of "every conceivable sideline matter?" I would tend to disagree because BKs symptoms were being displayed on the field. So as someone who is presumably paying attention to the on field play with an attention to detail not possessed of the average fan it seems reasonable that he would notice one of his OL wiffing on blocks and looking confused.

2. Let's assume for the sake of argument that Butch did not notice. Wells appears to have been acutely aware of the situation and didn't report it to med staff or Butch. This is going to be deemed a failure on Butch's part to properly train his staff. The taint of Well's failure will be attributed to Butch.
 
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I’m mad at the whole crap show that’s going on at my beloved university. I agree that boycotting the game would send a message. But my daughter has a soccer tournament in Knoxville this weekend and my kids (oldest 2 are 12 & 11) are dying to go to a game. I’ve refused all year because of how bad they are. But after thinking about it, game day is special. I grew up in the 90’s going to every game as a kid and it was magical. If I don’t share that experience with them, we could lose a generation of fans who don’t appreciate “Football time in Tennessee”. All that being said, my family is going to the game to support the players on Saturday as well as the ones like OldVol75 who sacrificed their bodies to make it what it is. Anyway, hope this is solved soon.
 
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baburntt said:
ShoopsScoops from TOS (join date Oct 6 2017) posted this (TIFWIW):

"Lock this one down. Jon Gruden, while he did purchase a home in the Knoxville area, has no intention of coaching at Tennessee in 2018. First-hand knowledge from someone who is as close to the man as you can really get"


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Check that join date out.
 
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Kurtastrophe said:
Which would line up with him possibly being in town this weekend...
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If he purchased on weekend of Georgia game, it was the same weekend I heard that Butch gone was for sure..

If he closes on the Haslam house as is indicated on TOS that would say that the Haslam's must be on board with the Gruden hire???

Big IF's of course and a stretch... but just a thought
 
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VolInNorthCack said:
I think what we all really want to know though is what is our status with the Iowa Tech coach -Dart Fartsmith? Last I heard we were close...
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No one really knows; silent on his end. But even though we're not hearing anything now, we may soon start to get a whiff of what's really going on.
 
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RockyTopSC said:
On the whole is John crazy or crazy like a fox debate I would offer the following. (Again not accusing or defending him just a thought). He was able to set up the mid season firing of a TN letterman, national championship, soon to be college HOF, orange to the core coach with one of the best win percentages in the history of the SEC. And remember at that point he was an assistant AD but was able to see opportunities and manipulate outcomes to the end he wanted.
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So why did Haslam want him over Blackburn?
 
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Coastypop said:
If he purchased on weekend of Georgia game, it was the same weekend I heard that Butch gone was for sure..

If he closes on the Haslam house as is indicated on TOS that would say that the Haslam's must be on board with the Gruden hire???

Big IF's of course and a stretch... but just a thought
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that's a damn good point.
 
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