Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVI

['Boro-vol]

Buyout money that he has to acquiesce to someone in order to get. Butch was nothing more than a way to buy time. Currie is out of it and he has to pick a side.

All of that sounds plausible, and lines up with other stuff I've heard. The only problem now us the optics have gotten so bad...the only thing that fixes it is the right hire. That happens, nobody remembers any if this after the press conference.

 

[Jimmy Football]

It doesn't matter. He's obviously a Champion of Life.

With a 5 star heart, and you can't beat that.

 

[Grand Vol]

My understanding is the man in the hazmat truck was seen lured away from Currie's office by the girls hockey team to watch them have a pillow fight in their underwear.

Rumor is, the jeans have never failed him..

So much fail here I don't know where to start.

 

[UTSuave’]

Who cares about the firing. The tone for the relationship between the university, the AD, and the fan base will be set by the hire.

If Currie makes a big hire it won't matter if he fires Butch on 11/1 or 12/1.

That's cool and all buuut why isn't butch gone like yesterday and everyone here has made it clear he no one will talk or accept a job that isn't open so my question is "why is he not fired already "

 

[Vol_atile]

Go on....

I mean just think about it. He knows what he's going to do. He's at peace living his life. We're in our own little Gruden World here not really knowing anything for sure. We want to know everything NOW! I'm one that'll be devastated if we don't get Gruden, but I know not getting him makes a lot less sense than getting him. JMO (for what that's worth)

 

[DuckRiverVol]

I agree with this. I also wonder if this could be the hold up. Not on the academic side but in the athletic side.
What if they keep putting jones out there to pressure the academic side into giving back some of the control to the athletics like it use to be. Saying gruden will not do the deal unless this happens and if it doesn’t everybody will know why butch or google coach are here. Maybe gruden cares, maybe not, but the donors and the athletic department do and right now they have a very big carrot to get the academics to do as they wish.

All pure speculation on my part. No insider info.

I think the deal is done. now it is time to see what else they can achieve with this deal.

SOON

I believe that this is about a lot more than just a coach.

And things will definitely be different on the control side of things when all is said and done.

 

[butchna]

No, that's why I was asking for known instances.

Here's the thing. The protocols have been in place for what? Two years now? And in all the games I've been at and a part of, I've never seen a player pulled for that reason at OU or OSU. I'm not saying it was out of public eye, but I've seen the medical observers on the sidelines and never has pulled a player.

I'm not suggesting a conspiracy, but I'm wondering how often that rule is in force.

I don’t think they’re keeping statistics.

 

[Kid Deezy]

Capturing more than screen shots too.

Capturing = aptri = parti = party

Party is a good thing.

If I'm reading this correctly OV is guaranteeing a great news today and it's time to party.

Gruden to The Hill confirmed!

 

[SmokeyLives]

i still hold to the idea of, this week:

1) Freudian slip - final game
2) scarabbeans meeting (?)
3) BOT meetings
4) if in fact gruden is closing on a house
5) if there is any relevance to it, last high school game friday night
6) gruden at the game, meaning he's probably been on campus after 2 & 3 makes decisions

the concussion situation is ugly, don't know what'll happen, but if this scenario is remotely true, currie is just trying to squeak by this week.

again, i am nobody and i know nothing, but this makes sense to me, and it keeps my hope alive.

jg on mnf said, "i miss coaching."
mit said (in so many words) the wait was almost over.

.

 

[Coastypop]

Well, I just bought a house and it took about 5 weeks to close.

Admitting that Gruden is WAY more important than me, if true I have to think that their offer had to be accepted at least a week or two ago.

It was rumored he purchased it while in town this last time

 

[SmokinBob]

As a former coach's wife, I'm not. Someone always has an issue with the coach, and they are very easy to hang. I just wish he could move on and we could too without him being trashed.

100% agree.

 

[2EastTnVols]

Similar to Jalen Hurd's lower body injury last year? :unsure:

I still do not understand why Jones lied about Hurd's injury???

 

[BubbaWms]

I really want to be 10 pages behind after going to the crapper...."git 'er done" !

 

[Orange_Crush]

The analogy is still not the same. We are talking about one's actions as opposed to knowing something about another. A passenger in a vehicle can't be charged with DUI whether he knew the driver was drunk or not.

If Butch knew and did nothing about it, then it's a problem. But if Butch didn't know, then it's not on him. It's not strict liability on the head coach. Again, why hire professionals if you are blaming the head coach who is managing the game? It's still not a good look, but I don't see an issue for Butch unless more comes out.

Exactly. It's not reasonable to expect Butch to manage the game while also being in the weeds of every conceivable sideline matter. That's why assistants have responsibilities in-game.

Thus, it is not negligence for Jones to not have known. Negligence hinges on reasonable expectations and personal responsibility. It is not reasonable to expect Butch to know all of the specifics at any given time.

We all pretty much want him gone, but we don't need to create a fiction to do it.

 

['Boro-vol]

I still do not understand why Jones lied about Hurd's injury???

That one is easy....he's a buffoon.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

It was rumored he purchased it while in town this last time

Which would line up with him possibly being in town this weekend...

 

[#1ManningFan]

That infuriates me to no end. I listen to WNML at work all day and the people that call in to defend Butch and blame the players are endless. I can't understand that mentality

Thanks for the info you bring btw. I appreciate what you do! :good!:

I call those types casual fans. They're the type that tune in for 3 hrs on gameday and tune back out till next weeks game. They don't pay attention to the small things that us fanatics see and hear on a daily basis. Quite frankly those casual fans are a problem, because they have a voice when they should not.

 

[BurninOrange]

It was rumored he purchased it while in town this last time

I can confirm this to be true. One of my in laws is a realtor and I reach out to her to gauge this. He is indeed coming home.

 

[VolFan32]

I still do not understand why Jones lied about Hurd's injury???

Played him after he was hurt IIRC.

 

[84Volfan]

Butch reminds me of Littlefinger. He uses lies and tricks to gain power and control, until people finally figure him out and we know how that story ends.:yes:

With his constant repetitive drivel he reminds me of Hodor

 

[UTLEGEND]

But how accurate is that statement?

Is it just pure guessing on VQs part?

From my time over there that poster is one of the better ones over there

 

[orange parmejohn]

If Gruden agreed to a deal, then an administrative war ensued over him, I don't see him as the type of guy to mess with all the B.S. then jump on board in the middle of it. I would imagine him to say "Thanks but no thanks" and walk away.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

I'm pretty sure realtor info is way better than our old plane tracking info.

 

[preacherman4vols]

I can confirm this to be true. One of my in laws is a realtor and I reach out to her to gauge this. He is indeed coming home.

Hopefully to coach Has he found a house?

 

[volforlife98]

From my time over there that poster is connected

Who's the poster?