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Let me be the first to say I believe Hart is a much smarter and brighter AD than Hamilton by a country mile. Hiring Gruden is only going to make Hart look good and Hart will get his share of credit. I think in the end Gruden is the coach of the TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS!!! GO VOLS!!! WE WANT YOU JON GRUDEN!!!:rock:
 
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BruinVol said:
Any specific thoughts on what we aren't willing to give him control of?
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I asked about this and my friend said he would try to get more specifics. One thing he thinks is a factor is the head coach being able to hire assistants without getting approval from either hart or cheek.

Also commented that hart tends to be somewhat of a control freak himself.
 
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Ragdoll said:
I wouldn't think total control would be a problem. Obviously Dooley had it for 3 years..no one stopped him from the devastation he bestowed on us!!!

:realmad::realmad::furious3::furious3::furious3:
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Ya know I really get tired of the pile on DD. It's not classy, it's ignorant of the truth, and it's just mean.

Is he the level of coach we wanted? No.

Would any coach we wanted have taken the Lane train wreck he did? NO NO!

When DD got here it was practically Lord of the Flies, I mean when you got to start out with personal hygiene you got a ways to go. There was literally a bunch of kids that had NO discipline or order for awhile...

He restored order, he also recruited unexpectantly well considering his lack of background at this level. The reality check is whomever we hire will have a much easier time getting the program up and going because of his hard work laying at least a foundation to build on, where as Kiffin left a smoking infested hole......

Was he a great head coach? maybe not up to SEC standards yet, but someday he might be, and I think he could still do very well at lower ranks, he was just out of his league....he basically took a job that no one else wanted, and no one anyone here would be happy with would have taken.....when we were in a hole he helped.....he couldn't take it to the next level so he loses the job, but really piling on him as if he is remotely the cause of this mess I think is unfair......he DID leave this program in better shape then it was in, regardless of what current win loss record shows, and now Gruden can come in and not have an empty barn, with a few maltreated fungal incrusted players that Kiffin turned this place into.
 
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tm3 said:
I asked about this and my friend said he would try to get more specifics. One thing he thinks is a factor is the head coach being able to hire assistants without getting approval from either hart or cheek.

Also commented that hart tends to be somewhat of a control freak himself.
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Whoaaa, Nellie, that flies in the face of what Hart said with his own lips.
 
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Blackmarket803 said:
Not trying to discredit, but could have late info.
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I would agree. Based off what has been posted by the OGs, there have been some hurdles that have had to be cleared along the way and the OGs have said they all have been cleared. The OGs have posted a lot of this kind of info along the way.

Also, I find it hard to believe you would court Gruden and not think he would want less than 100% control. If you are willing to pay nearly $11 million per year combined to the HC and assistants, I find it hard to believe you would let this crap stop the deal from being done.
 
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big harry said:
For example, the AD sometimes has final say on hiring and firing of assistance. Not so at penn st.. Ohio st.'s AD stated that Tressel could fire him. Not so at UT.
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I posted earlier that hiring all staff and budget decsions are the only control issues I can think of. If we can't give any coach that then we will have to settle for a very poor choice.
 
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tm3 said:
I asked about this and my friend said he would try to get more specifics. One thing he thinks is a factor is the head coach being able to hire assistants without getting approval from either hart or cheek.

Also commented that hart tends to be somewhat of a control freak himself.
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When discussing Sunseri, Hart said Dooley made the hire.
 
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It only makes since that gruden would want to be able to get the coaches he wants, I do not see that being a stumbling block not that I think it is really one to begin with!! GO VOLS!! WE WANT CHUCKY!!:rock:
 
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