New QB being Installed During Offweek

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butchna said:
I think a bunch of guys who coach kids yakking about who they compare to is a bunch of guys yakking. You develop everybody and the talent emerges from the best. We like to complicate things.
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This is true for the common fan. But I can’t express to you enough how detail oriented a qb coach has to be. If you can’t accurately evaluate a qb you’ll be less effective at developing them because if you skip a step you can regress that qb. And if you can’t evaluate then you have no idea what that next step is.
 
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1vol8 said:
This is true for the common fan. But I can’t express to you enough how detail oriented a qb coach has to be. If you can’t accurately evaluate a qb you’ll be less effective at developing them because if you skip a step you can regress that qb. And if you can’t evaluate then you have no idea what that next step is.
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You teach fundamentals to every player you coach. You don’t become prescient in the process.
 
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butchna said:
You teach fundamentals to every player you coach. You don’t become prescient in the process.
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Fundamentals yes, for the young ones. But it’s like learning your ABCs. At 5 it’s hard. At 10 it’s easier. At 15 it’s common sense. Fundamentals become common sense but you’re right.... you always remind them of their ABCs. Once a qb reaches a certain level of skills (usually around 11-12 YO) it becomes about building on those skills rather than fundamentals.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Yeah thats pretty high for a QB these days.
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7 rounds. That’s like halfway through the draft!
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Its just people getting excited because he's better than JG and has the best chance to play soon and is more ready than Bailey.

But if JP wanted to roll with Bailey right now I wouldn't argue with it. Aint no team ever needed a QB change like we do.
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Base don what is BM better? Not play when in the game.

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With JG in his last year, and we are loosing games by double-digits why are we not letting the other QB’s get playing time?” – Mid Tenn Outdoor News

Ben: Because Tennessee is trying to finish out the season on a high note and the coaches believe that if it’s going to do so, it’s going to be because Jarrett Guarantano turns his season around. The other three quarterbacks simply aren’t ready to lead Tennessee to victory in the eyes of the coaches. UT may reach the point of playing young players for the sake of preparing for the future, but they haven’t reached that point just yet. The Vols have to find a way to finish the season with some victories and the coaches believe the best chance of doing so is with Guarantano at quarterback.

JG turning his season around 😂😂😂

Oh God its painful.
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No qb can loose a game. Maybe contribute when they lose.

But the other guys just aren't as good.
1vol8 said:
What? That makes absolutely no sense at all. You’ve seen Bailey throw a grand total of 4 passes in the SEC. Out of those 4 there was ONE well placed ball, 2 incompletions and one that should’ve been picked and THATS all you need to see to anoint him “the best chance to succeed”?

To say Maurer doesn’t give much hope is to suggest he can’t get better when he was the flame that lit the candle to begin with as a true freshman. The entire team played more inspired. Not to mention he competed, and had success against the nations best. Has JG ever threw for 250+ vs UGA? Would you expect Bailey to throw for more? Has JG ever kept it close with Alabama or ANY of the big three for that matter?

Idk what a kid has to do for some of you to believe but you’re setting the bar pretty high for Bailey to be “better” than we’ve SEEN from Maurer.
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Complete better than 50% with no turnovers in a game with more than ten passes would be a great start. He has never had a good game. Good quarter yea. Good game no.

Ever see BM complete over 50% in a game he throws more than ten passes? Ever see BM throw for 400 vs a SEC team? Ever see BM beat a ranked SEC team on the road and be NPOTW? Ever see BM throw a td beyond his first quarter vs UGA?

butchna said:
You teach fundamentals to every player you coach. You don’t become prescient in the process.
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Lets just say I'm less than convinced about this so called coaching career.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Its just people getting excited because he's better than JG and has the best chance to play soon and is more ready than Bailey.

But if JP wanted to roll with Bailey right now I wouldn't argue with it. Aint no team ever needed a QB change like we do.
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So what is the statistical evidence that proves Maurer is better than JG?
 
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1vol8 said:
I noticed you didn’t reply to @whodeycin85 quote 317. How convenient. He laid out stats for you that you obviously can’t deny?
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It's what he does. He hides, ducks ands dodges. It's actually pitiful that he thinks no one notices. He doesn't respond to majority of my posts when I call him out. Because he can't.
 
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k-town_king said:
Base don what is BM better? Not play when in the game.
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Yes. And if you knew what you were looking at while watching the game rather than just looking at "stat lines" completely out of context after the game... you might see his talent and the things he can do that JG... has never been able to do.

But I know that's expecting too much. He threw a perfect ball to MC and you claim MC had to slow down... while ignoring how bad JG usually is down field and especially between the numbers.

No qb can loose a game. Maybe contribute when they lose.
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No one unless driven by some "agenda" denies that the QB ALWAYS has more impact on the game than any other player... or that their potential impact when they play poorly can cripple a team.

But the other guys just aren't as good.
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If that's true... then Pruitt should be fired at the end of the season. That's nothing more nor less than coaching malpractice.

Complete better than 50% with no turnovers in a game with more than ten passes would be a great start. He has never had a good game. Good quarter yea. Good game no.
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LOL@U. You parse the facts dishonestly every time. In VERY limited time, Maurer has shown some flashes of very good talent. In MASSIVE amounts of time, JG has more than demonstrated that he is near his ceiling... and it is NOT a high ceiling.

Ever see BM complete over 50% in a game he throws more than ten passes? Ever see BM throw for 400 vs a SEC team? Ever see BM beat a ranked SEC team on the road and be NPOTW? Ever see BM throw a td beyond his first quarter vs UGA?
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Maurer has never played a whole game. I'm surprised you aren't harping on that rather than trying to prove he's a "bad" player. The possibility that he's injury prone is A LOT more valid than the stuff you're trying.

But we all know what you're doing. You are trying to set the bar low enough that it makes JG "look" good. He's not good. We both want him to be good. But one of us has tried to spin his performances into something "good" against all reason and fact. That's you by the way. Nothing you say bad about Maurer will make JG good.... but somehow you've convinced yourself it does.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Vs top 25 in 2019...

Given how CJP give reps. Chances are BM was prepared as a TRUE FRESHMAN to play against UF,Bama and UGA AND STILL out played JG
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Dont want to hear about chances are. Provide real stats to back up the statement that Maurer is better than JG. Should be easy no?
 
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1vol8 said:
Fundamentals yes, for the young ones. But it’s like learning your ABCs. At 5 it’s hard. At 10 it’s easier. At 15 it’s common sense. Fundamentals become common sense but you’re right.... you always remind them of their ABCs. Once a qb reaches a certain level of skills (usually around 11-12 YO) it becomes about building on those skills rather than fundamentals.
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Why have we seen even NFL head coaches talk about going back to the fundamentals?
 
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1vol8 said:
I noticed you didn’t reply to @whodeycin85 quote 317. How convenient. He laid out stats for you that you obviously can’t deny?
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You mean this one?

whodeycin85 said:
For the record Dobbs in his 1st 79 attempt didnt have a TD to his name, rushing or passing...he did have 3 ints and threw for less yards then BM...
Keep in mind he also wasnt pulled at halftime and thrown in games for 1 drive..he was the starter after the Bama game... and for fun....he threw alot of screen passes to Pig, swing passes to the HBs. That will up anyones comp%
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That proves absolutely nothing. By no means is it germane to this conversation. The fact is you cannot offer the statistical evidence that proves Maurer is better.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Dont want to hear about chances are. Provide real stats to back up the statement that Maurer is better than JG. Should be easy no?
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I just did lunchbox...comp thier stats vs top 25 teams last year..ive posted about 8x in other threads....
Also it too JG till his RSSR year to throw a TD against UGA....BM did it as a true freshman..
 
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UneducatedGuess said:
For those digital warriors out there who don’t understand the actual schedule and challenges Tennessee has had please read

1. Due to COVID, NO backup QB has been developed due to MANDATED quarantine from contact tracing. Blame Trump, Blame Biden, Blame China, Blame whoever. You can’t train a backup in 4 practices.

2. Our QB issue is about AWARENESS and the offense. Our mistakes are due to bad decision making. A QB questioning himself.

3. Chaneys offense DEPENDS on a QB who can AUDIBLE and make MULTIPLE reads. Maybe a young gun can do this, however, you need PRACTICE to have a playbook deeper than your wristband.

I GUARANTEE QB change happening for Arkansas UNLESS COVID/HEALTH issues.

BOOK IT

Flame away
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You were saying?
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I just did lunchbox...comp thier stats vs top 25 teams last year..ive posted about 8x in other threads....
Also it too JG till his RSSR year to throw a TD against UGA....BM did it as a true freshman..
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Again no actual relevant stats. Gotcha. Oh and if you are gonna post something at least get your facts straight. JG threw 2 TDs against UGA in 2018. One to Palmer and one to Chandler.
 
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k-town_king said:
He is exciting.

You don't know if there will be an injury or turnover. About a 50% chance of that happening each time he drops back.
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Yeah... as a true Fr who was not expected to play but was FORCED into action because the guy you try to deify flopped so badly.

And... he's doing it again this year. Bottom half of the SEC in almost every meaningful stat. He's 9th in QBR (ESPN and cfbstats use the same formula), 10th in YPA, 11th in YPG, 9th in TD passes, 7th in INT %, etc.

You are the one who tries to make "stats" the only meaningful measure. Are you ready to admit how bad JG is as a RS Sr now? It really doesn't matter how bad you THINK the others are... so don't even try that diversion again. JG has attempted 777 passes in his career. That's a meaningful sample set. There are meaningful patterns discernable in his performance or lack thereof. Maurer has the most attempts of the other three... with 76. Nowhere near enough to draw the conclusions you keep trying to draw.

Not surprisingly, the guy you think is "best" after JG is the guy with the LEAST to evaluate. He's thrown only 4 passes, completed only one, and should have had an INT..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Are you to thick or lazy to look it up yourself???
Here
JG vs top 25 2019
18/38 176 yards 2 ints

BM vs top 25 2019
23/46 365 yards 2 tds 3 ints


Anything else??
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That doesn't count and you know it. You can only post stats that help JG look better than he really is.

Stop with the actual facts and start spinning stats to fit the agenda.
 
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