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You: “prove it”

Me: “here’s the latest inter-agency, multi-national climate report compiled by thousands from multiple disciplines”

You: “it’s a hoax”

I know you won’t digest any of that information, nor refute it, because you can’t. It’s easier to respond with cynicism and hyperbole. Less reading and thinking… I get it man.
I did refute it and gave references of my position. Here is some of the easiest to understand.

 
The planet has been warming in a general trend since between 20,000 and 26,000 years ago. We've had mini-ice ages, decades of warmer weather, etc.

Fifty years ago, it was another ice age coming. If global temperatures begin to fall, those fears will come back. Predicting the end of the world has been the real constant for the last several thousand years. No matter what is going on, the world is ending any day now.
Yup, and throughout history; humans have tried all kinds of stupid and tragic methods to appease the weather gods. Throwing a Virgin into a volcano worked about as well as banning fossil fuels FWIW.
 
Yup, and throughout history; humans have tried all kinds of stupid and tragic methods to appease the weather gods. Throwing a Virgin into a volcano worked about as well as banning fossil fuels FWIW.
Never was terrified of the global warming stuff anyway. So we start growing cotton in Nebraska and have orange groves in Clarksdale, MS. Big deal. There is a strong argument we are the most adaptable species on the planet.
 
The climate is in constant flux, show me the proof that man is causing it. It has been much warmer historically than now. The only way to make money off it is the green 🐂 💩. Find me a climate scientist that is not on the payroll who says different.
My post literally said, "I am not certain of anything" in regards to why it is changing"
 
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My post literally said, "I am not certain of anything" in regards to why it is changing"
Well I can tell you certainly that it is not because of CO2. The real problem is that people form definite opinions on subject they no squat about.
The people who know are in one of two camps. Those making their living off the climate change hoax and the honest scientists.
 
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Well I can tell you certainly that it is not because of CO2. The real problem is that people form definite opinions on subject they no squat about.
The people who know are in one of two camps. Those making their living off the climate change hoax and the honest scientists.
I have friends who are scientists that disagree with your take and none of them are being paid for their opinion. You claimed you were a physicist awhile back. Where did you get your PhD
 
The little ice age was over around 1850. I don't live on a flat island but those who do may well be worried.
You know in areas with big droughts, or where they dam existing water ways its pretty common to find old settlements that were buried by the water right? Even going back to the previous full ice age. man kind has dealt with shifting coastlines as long as there has been a mankind.

what you are describing is more of an "us" problem rather than a "environment" problem. Maybe if we didn't build cities over arable land, didn't build beach houses on every coast, waterway, or lake, we wouldn't have nearly as many "environment" issues.
 
You know in areas with big droughts, or where they dam existing water ways its pretty common to find old settlements that were buried by the water right? Even going back to the previous full ice age. man kind has dealt with shifting coastlines as long as there has been a mankind.

what you are describing is more of an "us" problem rather than a "environment" problem. Maybe if we didn't build cities over arable land, didn't build beach houses on every coast, waterway, or lake, we wouldn't have nearly as many "environment" issues.
This exactly correct. There are reasons that places have not been built on for eons.
 
Yup, and throughout history; humans have tried all kinds of stupid and tragic methods to appease the weather gods. Throwing a Virgin into a volcano worked about as well as banning fossil fuels FWIW.

Facts. Those virgins didnt cost me a dime, either. The Climate Change Grift has cost us all thousands, ruined cars, trucks,.commercial equipment etc and needlessly worried and stressed millions upon millions of impressionable kids and Liberals. Complete and utter BS and thankfully people are finally getting tired of it.

Here's the thing: the internet is forever. So while memories fade, all the "sky is falling, we will all be under water in 10years" BS can only be wrong for so many decades in a row before people are tired of the bullcrap. Its a classic "Boy who cried wolf" scenario. Yet the Lefties on here and elsewhere will shriek about it until the day the die. Of something entirely unrelated to the climate. The rest of us are tired of the nonsense.
 
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You know in areas with big droughts, or where they dam existing water ways its pretty common to find old settlements that were buried by the water right? Even going back to the previous full ice age. man kind has dealt with shifting coastlines as long as there has been a mankind.

what you are describing is more of an "us" problem rather than a "environment" problem. Maybe if we didn't build cities over arable land, didn't build beach houses on every coast, waterway, or lake, we wouldn't have nearly as many "environment" issues.
My point is that the climate is indeed warming and has been for quite a while. I made that point because @OrangeTsar indicated that he doesn't think that it is.
Yes I think we all know about the sea level's fluctuations over time. And if I lived on a flat island I would still be worried. Very many who do are.
 
The earth has actually been cooling for about a decade. We are probably heading into a decade or more of colder temps. The climate change hoax is an industry that rival the magnitude of the oil industry.
That's wonderful news if we don't all freeze to death. But how then is 2024 the hottest year on record, 2023 the second hottest, and 2025 the third hottest?
 
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That's wonderful news if we don't all freeze to death. But how then is 2024 the hottest year on record, 2023 the second hottest, and 2025 the third hottest?
It wasn't. It was all ginned up by fraud scientist. For one thing they threw out the rural temperature readings, go look at those. The urban areas are more populated now and hot pavement and concrete raise the temperature. They manufactured the infamous hockey stick graph that all the climate loonies hang their hat on.
 
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What year did we start collecting records?
“Human activities, principally through emissions of greenhouse gases, have unequivocally caused global warming, with global surface temperature reaching 1.1°C above 1850–1900 in 2011–2020.”

A headline statement from the report I linked previously.
 
It wasn't. It was all ginned up by fraud scientist. For one thing they threw out the rural temperature readings, go look at those. The urban areas are more populated now and hot pavement and concrete raise the temperature. They manufactured the infamous hockey stick graph that all the climate loonies hang their hat on.
What do NOAA and NASA say about it?
 
What year did we start collecting records?
Right. About 200years of spotty data?
Even if it was 5x that. 1000 years of climate data from all around the world...something we wont have for another 700 or 800 years...its absolutely meaningless on a planet the very same scientists claim is 4 Billion years old. No mathematician, or honest scientist would tell you that it is reasonable to make predictions based on 200years of data in a 4 Billion year data set. None. Nobody. Its preposterous. Might as well just make your conclusions from nothing. From zero knowledge. 200years on a scale of 4 Billion is practically zero. In fact its a bunch of them...like 0.000005%. Thats how much data we would have IF we had atmosphere AND ocean data from everywhere on Earth for 200 years. Which we of course do not. We have spotty data from part of the planet taken on various different instruments.

Here's the math:Screenshot_20260518_160300_Google.jpg
 
The earth has actually been cooling for about a decade. We are probably heading into a decade or more of colder temps. The climate change hoax is an industry that rival the magnitude of the oil industry.
The myth that the Earth is currently cooling down—sometimes bolstered by the misconception that scientists warned of an impending ice age in the 1970s—is directly contradicted by overwhelming evidence. In reality, the planet is experiencing rapid, unprecedented global warming due to human activities. [1]

The Myth of a Cooling Planet
The claim that the Earth is cooling is usually rooted in a misunderstanding of past climate records or the conflation of short-term weather fluctuations with long-term planetary trends. [1, 2, 3]
  • The 1970s Consensus Myth: A pervasive myth suggests that climate scientists in the 1970s believed an ice age was imminent. While a few isolated media reports and a small number of scientific papers speculated about cooling—primarily due to temporary increases in sulfur-based aerosols reflecting sunlight—the vast majority of peer-reviewed literature in that era was already warning about global warming.
  • The "Cooling Cycle" Misconception: According to natural astronomical cycles (Milankovitch cycles), the Earth should currently be in the initial stages of a long-term, gradual cooling trend leading toward an ice age. However, this natural cycle has been completely overridden by greenhouse gas emissions, which are driving global temperatures upward at an unprecedented speed.
  • Weather vs. Climate: Localized cold spells or short-term multi-year drops in surface temperatures do not mean the planet is cooling. Global temperatures are highly variable and subject to "noisy" interactions between the atmosphere and oceans, but the definitive long-term trajectory is one of warming. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Scientific Reality
Rigorous, decades-long studies by organizations like NASA Science show that the average global surface temperature has risen significantly over the last century. This warming is primarily driven by the exponential increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases resulting from the combustion of fossil fuels.

By the 1970s, scientists were becoming increasingly aware that estimates of global temperatures showed cooling since 1945, as well as the possibility of large scale warming due to emissions of greenhouse gases. In the scientific papers which considered climate trends of the 21st century, fewer than 10% were inclined towards future cooling, while most papers predicted future warming.[2] The general public had little awareness of carbon dioxide's effects on climate, but Science News in May 1959 forecast a 25% increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide in the 150 years from 1850 to 2000, with a consequent warming trend.[3] The actual increase in this period was 29%.


 
Right. About 200years of spotty data?
Even if it was 5x that. 1000 years of climate data from all around the world...something we wont have for another 700 or 800 years...its absolutely meaningless on a planet the very same scientists claim is 4 Billion years old. No mathematician, or honest scientist would tell you that it is reasonable to make predictions based on 200years of data in a 4 Billion year data set. None. Nobody. Its preposterous. Might as well just make your conclusions from nothing. From zero knowledge. 200years on a scale of 4 Billion is practically zero. In fact its a bunch of them...like 0.000005%. Thats how much data we would have IF we had atmosphere AND ocean data from everywhere on Earth for 200 years. Which we of course do not. We have spotty data from part of the planet taken on various different instruments.

Here's the math:View attachment 832761
Then there's the data from ice cores...
 

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