Les Miles thread (merged)

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vols1707 said:
Would be best fit at Tennessee.

1. Great recruiter
2. Had best teams in league behind Alabama for years in a dominating West division
3. Can get his missing piece with Tennessee's abilities to recruit quarterbacks.
4. Knows the SEC landscape and the relationships with high school coaches in the region
5. Would now have his team in the East division

6. We would get to see what John Kelly, ty chandler COULD actually do!!!
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I don't understand getting frustrated with CBJ' game management, play calling, etc and then wanting to hire Les Miles. I've seen too many of his bone-headed decisions.
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
Miles success came before all his top assistant left and before all the surrounding universities started winning more games and recruiting better. Give him an elite staff and he can win games, but I don't see UTAD going that route.

Only chance I could see Miles coming to Kville is if Chavis came with him. Which probably isnt happening.
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If it comes with getting 3rd & Chavis back I'd rather Tennessee quit playing football.

In all seriousness he has won and I agree with you on his assistant coaches. Why I like him as the hire. He knows how to win in the league and a year to reflect on what he did wrong I think he could do great things at Tennessee. And seems to be the coach with the least risk to me
 
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I love it when posters who are bashing every suggestion for a new hire suddenly disappear from threads when asked who they want.
 
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All this Gruden stuff, and wanting a proven college coach. Bid diff between college and NFL. Ask Saban and Spurrier. I don't recall Gruden being a proven college coach. The gamble on him would be greater than Miles. I don't get where an MNF analyst automatically makes a successful coach for UT.

1985-1991:
UT Grad Asst coach
SEMO QB coach
Pacific off asst
49er spec asst
Pitt WR coach
This is the extent of his college coaching career. Never more than a position coach, never a coordinator, Never a HC. Never a high profile coach in a high profile program.

HC in NFL = .541 career winning %.

Reality check...No thanks....Gimme Les.
 
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GVF said:
All this Gruden stuff, and wanting a proven college coach. Bid diff between college and NFL. Ask Saban and Spurrier. I don't recall Gruden being a proven college coach. The gamble on him would be greater than Miles. I don't get where an MNF analyst automatically makes a successful coach for UT.

1985-1991:
UT Grad Asst coach
SEMO QB coach
Pacific off asst
49er spec asst
Pitt WR coach
This is the extent of his college coaching career. Never more than a position coach, never a coordinator, Never a HC. Never a high profile coach in a high profile program.

HC in NFL = .541 career winning %.

Reality check...No thanks....Gimme Les.
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I know, I was in the "official Gruden thread" and mentioned why don't you just get Bill Cowher. He's won one Super Bowl as a head coach and now talks up football on network TV? They didn't seem to appreciate that...
 
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Tennessee'83 said:
I know, I was in the "official Gruden thread" and mentioned why don't you just get Bill Cowher. He's won one Super Bowl as a head coach and now talks up football on network TV? They didn't seem to appreciate that...
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I think I'll cut and paste my post over there. Gruden is a stupid pipe dream.
 
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vols1707 said:
If it comes with getting 3rd & Chavis back I'd rather Tennessee quit playing football.

In all seriousness he has won and I agree with you on his assistant coaches. Why I like him as the hire. He knows how to win in the league and a year to reflect on what he did wrong I think he could do great things at Tennessee. And seems to be the coach with the least risk to me
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Chavis was a good DC until we were up late and he went to the prevent. A lot of times it only prevented us from winning. Seems like I remember him rushing 3 & 4 without blitzing enough to keep pressure on the QB in his prevent. Good passing QB's ate us up.
 
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GVF said:
I think I'll cut and paste my post over there. Gruden is a stupid pipe dream.
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I would agree except for how much he and his family does seem to genuinely like Tennessee. It's not so stupid that Tennessee shouldn't at least make him (yet another) offer. He lives in Florida and yet his son goes to UT? Why do you suppose that is?

Sean McDonough : "I know you love the Vols."

Jon Gruden : "I do love the Vols."
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would agree except for how much he and his family does seem to genuinely like Tennessee. It's not so stupid that Tennessee shouldn't at least make him (yet another) offer. He lives in Florida and yet his son goes to UT? Why do you suppose that is?

Sean McDonough : "I know you love the Vols."

Jon Gruden : "I do love the Vols."
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A lot of people love the vols. Don't qualify them to be the HC there.

Gruden is a NFL coach that bounced around to win after a GM choose his players for him.

Does he understand recruiting & how to get the players needed? In his coaching career that ended almost 10 years ago a GM built his team for him.
 
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Miles dis worse at LSU after Saban had rebuilt it to NC strength.

The coach that followed him at OSU eclipsed anything he ever did by a wide margin.

Also, a total goofball.
 
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The man was FIRED for underperforming. If you find yourself choosing a guy who was fired for underperforming as your blank check, once in a generation big time homerun hire then you're doomed to fail. If we're just looking for a placeholder then there's no reason to make a change at all.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would agree except for how much he and his family does seem to genuinely like Tennessee. It's not so stupid that Tennessee shouldn't at least make him (yet another) offer. He lives in Florida and yet his son goes to UT? Why do you suppose that is?

Sean McDonough : "I know you love the Vols."

Jon Gruden : "I do love the Vols."
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Cause his son chose to go to school there. Duh. It wasn't a preemptive bid to land the coaching job.

Spurrier was born and raised in East Tennessee and went to school and coached at Florida.

All kinds of coaches that live in states other than where their kids go to school.

If he loves it so much here, why hasn't he accepted the other 250 offers for HC.
 
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vols1707 said:
Would be best fit at Tennessee.

1. Great recruiter
2. Had best teams in league behind Alabama for years in a dominating West division
3. Can get his missing piece with Tennessee's abilities to recruit quarterbacks.
4. Knows the SEC landscape and the relationships with high school coaches in the region
5. Would now have his team in the East division

6. We would get to see what John Kelly, ty chandler COULD actually do!!!
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Just STOP

Didn't know what he was doing at LSU --knows nothing about offensive strategy, nice guy but can't even wear his hat correctly and claps like a girl at Wimbleton.
 
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Roustabout said:
Miles dis worse at LSU after Saban had rebuilt it to NC strength.

The coach that followed him at OSU eclipsed anything he ever did by a wide margin.

Also, a total goofball.
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Sometimes you guys oversell things to try and make a point. For Les Miles first 7 seasons at LSU, he was very much on par with what Saban had done in his time there. He went 75-18 with 2 SEC Championships and a National Championship from 2005-2011. In Saban's 5 seasons at LSU, he went 48-16 also with 2 SEC Championships and a National Championship (split with USC). It's true that Mike Gundy eclipsed what Miles did at Oklahoma St but Miles was only there for 4 seasons. In the three years prior to Miles arrival in Stillwater, the Cowboys went 5-6, 5-6 and 3-8. During Miles four seasons they went 4-7 with a road win over #4 Oklahoma in his first year and then 8-5, 9-4 and 7-5. And as far as a goofball, after the last 9 seasons of Kiffin, shower discipline, where's Rommel?, orange pants, life championships, 5 star hears and the htb can - we could put up with a grass eater as long as he wins... and he would.
 
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vols1707 said:
I'm fine with Kelly or Miles

Gruden concerns me. LONG time out of coaching and worry about him learning how to recruit. He is a TV figure for years now that's not had to sell himself. ESPN does it for him.
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Saying that Gruden needs to learn how to recruit is like saying a magnet needs to learn how to attract metal.
 
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GVF said:
Cause his son chose to go to school there. Duh. It wasn't a preemptive bid to land the coaching job.

Spurrier was born and raised in East Tennessee and went to school and coached at Florida.

All kinds of coaches that live in states other than where their kids go to school.

If he loves it so much here, why hasn't he accepted the other 250 offers for HC.
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Did I say it was? I said his family liked Tennessee. Duh! And there is no Spurrier analogy as Gruden's son is not an athlete.
 
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