Jerry Colquitt critical of Dooley on starting Worley

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volfan_28 said:
Why do people in Tennessee suck so bad at math? What is this "deny him the opportunity to start for two years" business?

Bray isn't going to stay for his Senior year. Worley will start his Junior and Senior year... 1 + 1 = 2. It is VERY common for college QBs to start for 2 years. I don't know the statistics but I'd be surprised if the norm is more or less than that.

Also.. let's assume Worley would have redshirted and started as a sophomore and then as a junior. Who's to say he wouldn't leave for the NFL before his senior season?

Also.. let's assume Worley would have redshirted and Tennessee goes 5-7 followed by back to back 7-5 seasons.. Dooley most likely would be fired and Worley would be learning a new offense in 2014 as a senior. How fair would that be?

Also.. let's assume Dooley stuck with Simms all the way up to the Vanderbilt game. The game is tied and we are fighting for a bowl appearance when all of a sudden.. Simms gets hurt enough that he has to come out of the game. Dooley has no choice to burn Worley's redshirt and looking back we're all like "dang it. i bet we could have beat south carolina with worley at qb."

The moral of the story is this. Play to win the game and you'll have less regrets. I understand the importance of building toward the future but at some point you have to WIN. Dooley is wrapping up his 2nd year as head coach and if he doesn't start winning, he won't be around to see Worley start a game in 2014 wheter it be as a junior or as a senior. His time to start winning is NOW. It sucks that Worley is losing his redshirt in the process but right now the most important thing to Tennessee's football program and the most important thing to Dooley as a husband and father is for Tennessee to play in a bowl game.
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volfan_28 said:
Why do people in Tennessee suck so bad at math? What is this "deny him the opportunity to start for two years" business?

Bray isn't going to stay for his Senior year. Worley will start his Junior and Senior year... 1 + 1 = 2. It is VERY common for college QBs to start for 2 years. I don't know the statistics but I'd be surprised if the norm is more or less than that.
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That's a bit of a reach. Bray has looked great in his time as a starter, but has yet to have a great game against a solid opponent. The only decent teams he has ever faced are UF and UGA, and he had the worst two games of his career against them. IMO he'll probably be back for his senior year based on what we've seen so far, especially considering that the broken thumb may cause him to miss almost 2/3 of his sophomore season. Tough to say how much of a setback that could be.
 
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Volinnooga said:
In no time flat, Jerry went from a guy I alwys respected to one for whom I've lost respect
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I haven't lost respect for him because what he went through to play at UT was brutal. However I do think he is wrong in this instance.

Also, there is no way to agree with JC and still be in the "Dooley has to win instantly" crowd.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
That's a bit of a reach. Bray has looked great in his time as a starter, but has yet to have a great game against a solid opponent. The only decent teams he has ever faced are UF and UGA, and he had the worst two games of his career against them. IMO he'll probably be back for his senior year based on what we've seen so far, especially considering that the broken thumb may cause him to miss almost 2/3 of his sophomore season. Tough to say how much of a setback that could be.
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And in his worst game he still threw 288 3 td and 2 int. I agree with you, but it's hard to ignore how good he can be.
 
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DrunkJohnny said:
So if Worley were to start 5 games would you have the same opinion?
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I've gone the record and said that if Worley can finish the season 4-1 as the starter, and we end up in either the CFA or Outback Bowl, what we got in return would be worth the price we paid. Less than that, we either miss a bowl alotogether or finish 6-6 with a trip to the Liberty or Compass Bowl, and that's not worth a whole year of QB play down the line IMO.
 
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To Richardson, Worley hadn't changed a bit since he enrolled at UT in January. He was the same, "even-keeled kid" who quietly, but assuredly took command three years earlier.

"I asked him how things were going. He said great, just ready for his opportunity," Richardson said. "And heck, now he's got it."
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Sounds like Worley wanted to wait 3 years to play.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I've gone the record and said that if Worley can finish the season 4-1 as the starter, and we end up in either the CFA or Outback Bowl, what we got in return would be worth the price we paid. Less than that, we either miss a bowl alotogether or finish 6-6 with a trip to the Liberty or Compass Bowl, and that's not worth a whole year of QB play down the line IMO.
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If we miss a bowl Worley is going to get recruited over.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I've gone the record and said that if Worley can finish the season 4-1 as the starter, and we end up in either the CFA or Outback Bowl, what we got in return would be worth the price we paid. Less than that, we either miss a bowl alotogether or finish 6-6 with a trip to the Liberty or Compass Bowl, and that's not worth a whole year of QB play down the line IMO.
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why does he automatically lose a year? Still has 5 to play 4 like everyone else right?
 
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alwaysvol said:
another point of view could be. what if over the rest of the season Worley just doesn't have it (I'm not predicting this just saying its possible). It would be better to find out now rather than later. we could still go out and try and get a 2nd QB in this recruiting class.
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Keep in mind that Worley is a true freshman. It wouldn't be unusual if he didn't perform well. Even if he doesn't, it doesn't mean he won't improve with time. And I'm sure if the coaches think they've got a chance with a guy they like better than Peterman, they're still on him. Like it's been said, coaches are always trying to recruit over what they have now.
 
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Worley can still play two years as starter. If Bray stays healthy they can red shirt him next year and let Nance handle mop up duty. Experience versus South Carolina and Arkansas would be priceless imo.
 
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utvolpj said:
why does he automatically lose a year? Still has 5 to play 4 like everyone else right?
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Yeah, but if DD wasn't willing to jump him in the order to save a RS this year, why in the world would he do it next year when he's the true backup? He's not going to leave Bray for 4 quarters in blowouts next year, and based on his precedent from the other night, coupled with his statements where he basically said he didn't care about RS's, I think we missed our shot at 5 years with Worley.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Yeah, but if DD wasn't willing to jump him in the order to save a RS this year, why in the world would he do it next year when he's the true backup? He's not going to leave Bray for 4 quarters in blowouts next year, and based on his precedent from the other night, coupled with his statements where he basically said he didn't care about RS's, I think we missed our shot at 5 years with Worley.
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so you're bashing Dooley for playing a kid that gives UT the best shot to win and also bashing him for something that happens in the future in your head? No wonder the guy can't win with some people
 
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therickbol said:
That is pathetic. It's always important when reading people opinion to disregard agenda driven opinions. That was obviously heavily agenda driven. Its ridiculous. Especially considering Worley is starting, which should have been obvious to Mr. Colquitt as soon as they put him in the Alabama game.
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I wonder if Mr Colquitt remembers who was 3rd string his last yr and boy I sure am glad we played that guy!
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bleedorange0037 said:
I've gone the record and said that if Worley can finish the season 4-1 as the starter, and we end up in either the CFA or Outback Bowl, what we got in return would be worth the price we paid. Less than that, we either miss a bowl alotogether or finish 6-6 with a trip to the Liberty or Compass Bowl, and that's not worth a whole year of QB play down the line IMO.
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Still waiting for that citation. Where has he been guaranteed that he would EVER start for UT? The Vols are doing the best they can to recruit over him right now. Give Bray another stellar year... and UT should be in the running for several top tier QB's next year who will be told that they have the opportunity to either start right away or else sit behind Bray for a year then start.

Fulmer is not longer the coach. "If you stay, you play" is no longer in effect.
 
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Jerry Colquitt made some douchebag comments that he will regret in the future. CDD is not blaming Worley for anything, rather giving him a shot to play. That's all most kids want - a shot to play.

What about teams who have been successful starting a Freshman QB straight out of HS? If I seem to recall correctly, we started 2 Freshmen QBs one year - Ainge and Schaffer (misspelled) and were quite successful that year. It's a total cop out to say that a talented QB can't play his Freshman year, and BTW, I hear Worley is more mature than Bray was last year.

My hope is that Worley is Bray 2.0 for the rest of the year and we win out. If Worley comes up big against SC and Ark, we could be 8-4.

I for one have not given up on this team nor this season. Lots left to play for and I say UT goes 5-0 to finish the regular season! GO VOLS!!!
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Yeah, but if DD wasn't willing to jump him in the order to save a RS this year, why in the world would he do it next year when he's the true backup? He's not going to leave Bray for 4 quarters in blowouts next year, and based on his precedent from the other night, coupled with his statements where he basically said he didn't care about RS's, I think we missed our shot at 5 years with Worley.
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I also find it somewhat unlikely they'll redshirt Worley next year as the backup. It's probably either redshirt Worley or Peterman. I'd think Peterman would be the more likely to leave on the bench.

But I don't put as much on that as some people. You have to keep recruiting QBs regardless.

I think taking the redshirt off was the right move, and if you want something to blame, blame the Georgia player's helmet. Stuff happens. Jerry Colquitt should know that better than anyone.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I've gone the record and said that if Worley can finish the season 4-1 as the starter, and we end up in either the CFA or Outback Bowl, what we got in return would be worth the price we paid. Less than that, we either miss a bowl alotogether or finish 6-6 with a trip to the Liberty or Compass Bowl, and that's not worth a whole year of QB play down the line IMO.
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those 20 extra practices for making a bowl would make it worth it IMO. also remember that will mean the EE's for the 2012 will get some practices in also.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Yeah, but if DD wasn't willing to jump him in the order to save a RS this year, why in the world would he do it next year when he's the true backup? He's not going to leave Bray for 4 quarters in blowouts next year, and based on his precedent from the other night, coupled with his statements where he basically said he didn't care about RS's, I think we missed our shot at 5 years with Worley.
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I was feeling kind and took you off ignore so you wouldnt be the only one on my ignore list

I can see I'm going to regret my decision
 
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