Jarrett Guarantano

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#727
Someone told me after a game last year he was faster than Dobbs. I see him as a three phase qb and Dormandy 2 phase. Lets say Peyton Manning vs Tee Martin. Great qbs, but Tee could scramble if need be. I think he should have the red light to run when he sees an opening. It will win us more games. As it is, I am not sure we can top any SEC team. Maybe Kentucky, maybe Missouri.
 
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I hope we fit some packages in for Jarrett. Maybe some jet sweep option reads with Byrd or Chandler. Would give every team something else to prepare for.
 
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utfantilidie said:
Someone told me after a game last year he was faster than Dobbs. I see him as a three phase qb and Dormandy 2 phase. Lets say Peyton Manning vs Tee Martin. Great qbs, but Tee could scramble if need be. I think he should have the red light to run when he sees an opening. It will win us more games. As it is, I am not sure we can top any SEC team. Maybe Kentucky, maybe Missouri.
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JG may well be faster than Dobbs but I'll put money on it that he's NOT the natural runner Josh is.
 
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TennVOLS93 said:
Believing half of what comes out of his mouth is a mistake. Anyways, Dormady is far from a statue and his mobility will be put to the test in the first two SEC games. We have got to have some sort of resemblance of a QB running threat. No, he doesn't have to be Josh Dobbs. Defenses teeing off on John Kelly because they have absolutely no respect of Dormady keeping it scares the hell out of me because it's going to increase the chances of John getting hurt.
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Hurt ran 10 times for 154 and 2 TD's this weekend against a really bad team in Fresno St. He was 14-18 for 128 & a TD. Our QB situation is better than Bama's, but we can't get our QB to keep it on a read-option except 1-2 times a game. QD has to keep the defense honest, especially when the defense doesn't respect his running ability.

I see the staff scheming with the upfront blocking with pulls and kick-outs because of that particular reason. Just to get Jelly some wiggle room.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Just heard on the radio that our receivers aren't getting the separation they need. Hard to get the ball to them.
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Same song, different season. It has been said the last 2-3 years. Dobbs was called inaccurate for the same reason as what is being said about QD. I think the WR's are doing fine. They have enough separation to make plays and are making more than they don't. They've been in great position on deep balls all year, crossing routes too. I don't really see separation as an issue right now.
 
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k-town_king said:
SJT you have gotten really emotionally invested in this for some reason and have lost all touch with reality it seems.

Dormady did make a really good throw on the td.

He hasn't shown the ability to throw the wr open at all though. He has forced passes and made bad reads. He has thrown high or behind the wr a ton.

He has thrown a couple good passes and a ton more bad passes that would have been ints against better teams including two that could have been pick sixes.

He may develop the skills you say but has not shown them at all yet.

Pretty much all the reports would say QD was probably ahead but JG had a bigger arm and threw a better ball. Go look it up. Everyone saw it.
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I didn't see it..who was saying it?
 
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We will find out this weekend where we really stand. I think QD is going to be a good QB and a lot of what we are seeing can be attributed to only having started 2 games. He will continue to improve. He certainly looks more comfortable to me throwing the ball than JG does - of course JG can tuck it and run when needed.
 
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m1al said:
JG may well be faster than Dobbs but I'll put money on it that he's NOT the natural runner Josh is.
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Dobbs was a natural runner. His ability to see and find holes and make plays was uncanny. Too bad the redshirt had to be burned twice, it would have been great to have him for one more year.
 
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k-town_king said:
SJT you have gotten really emotionally invested in this for some reason and have lost all touch with reality it seems.

Dormady did make a really good throw on the td.

He hasn't shown the ability to throw the wr open at all though. He has forced passes and made bad reads. He has thrown high or behind the wr a ton.

He has thrown a couple good passes and a ton more bad passes that would have been ints against better teams including two that could have been pick sixes.

He may develop the skills you say but has not shown them at all yet.

Pretty much all the reports would say QD was probably ahead but JG had a bigger arm and threw a better ball. Go look it up. Everyone saw it.
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False
 
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sjt18 said:
The TD pass to MC Saturday is a case in point. Did you hear the post-game with MC? The pass looked a little behind. MC said that QD threw it there on purpose to lead him away from the safety help coming from the middle. So you have QD throwing to a spot about 10-15 yards from where MC was when the ball was released. It was thrown enough to the center of the field to keep the CB from being able to cut under and make a play BUT not so much that MC couldn't make a back shoulder catch and spin out for the score.
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I heard this as well. I remember watching that play and thinking QD threw it too early and to the wrong spot. Then heard MC explain what actually transpired.
 
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#739
I watched the game last night and I thought JG played pretty well. He had one bad throw over the middle that was high and could have been intercepted. I thought he threw the deep ball pretty well. George dropped one, he missed Palmer by about a yard on what would have been a TD and the other deep ball drew a PI. I know he didn't run the ball but you can tell he is very mobile.

QD's play scares me to be honest. He has made some really nice throws but he's made some awful decisions as well. And he does not look off his primary receiver at all. Should never have made that throw to Palmer that was intercepted in the endzone. With him not being a threat to run the ball, SEC defenses are going to tee off on him and bait him pretty easily IMO.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I hope we fit some packages in for Jarrett. Maybe some jet sweep option reads with Byrd or Chandler. Would give every team something else to prepare for.
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Explains why you repeated the myth about QD staring down receivers.

If it is true... then you should have no problem posting multiple examples.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I watched the game last night and I thought JG played pretty well. He had one bad throw over the middle that was high and could have been intercepted. I thought he threw the deep ball pretty well. George dropped one, he missed Palmer by about a yard on what would have been a TD and the other deep ball drew a PI. I know he didn't run the ball but you can tell he is very mobile.

QD's play scares me to be honest. He has made some really nice throws but he's made some awful decisions as well. And he does not look off his primary receiver at all. Should never have made that throw to Palmer that was intercepted in the endzone. With him not being a threat to run the ball, SEC defenses are going to tee off on him and bait him pretty easily IMO.
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Montrell Hardy said:
I watched the game last night and I thought JG played pretty well. He had one bad throw over the middle that was high and could have been intercepted. I thought he threw the deep ball pretty well. George dropped one, he missed Palmer by about a yard on what would have been a TD and the other deep ball drew a PI. I know he didn't run the ball but you can tell he is very mobile.

QD's play scares me to be honest. He has made some really nice throws but he's made some awful decisions as well. And he does not look off his primary receiver at all. Should never have made that throw to Palmer that was intercepted in the endzone. With him not being a threat to run the ball, SEC defenses are going to tee off on him and bait him pretty easily IMO.
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I think you are confused. JG played scared just with his footwork in the pocket. There is nothing that shows QD plays scared. He has 1.5 turnovers and has thrown the deep ball long, not short. QD is steady. JG was antsy against a JUCO school. Definitely not ready to start or get serious playing time in the Swamp or against Florida. Butch doesn't do well against Florida with QB changes. Butch is on the hot seat and he isn't going to increase his odds of losing to Florida with a new QB.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I watched the game last night and I thought JG played pretty well. He had one bad throw over the middle that was high and could have been intercepted. I thought he threw the deep ball pretty well. George dropped one, he missed Palmer by about a yard on what would have been a TD and the other deep ball drew a PI. I know he didn't run the ball but you can tell he is very mobile.

QD's play scares me to be honest. He has made some really nice throws but he's made some awful decisions as well. And he does not look off his primary receiver at all. Should never have made that throw to Palmer that was intercepted in the endzone. With him not being a threat to run the ball, SEC defenses are going to tee off on him and bait him pretty easily IMO.
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I thought he played pretty good too. I wish he'd had the opportunity to use his legs a little. I also thought he was trying to do to much at time, he kept looking for the long gain. I get it though, he knew his reps were limited and wanted to show off his arm. Doubt we see him against Florida
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I think you are confused. JG played scared just with his footwork in the pocket. There is nothing that shows QD plays scared. He has 1.5 turnovers and has thrown the deep ball long, not short. QD is steady. JG was antsy against a JUCO school. Definitely not ready to start or get serious playing time in the Swamp or against Florida. Butch doesn't do well against Florida with QB changes. Butch is on the hot seat and he isn't going to increase his odds of losing to Florida with a new QB.
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Not confused at all. His deep ball was good. George flat out dropped one, he missed Palmer by a yard and the other one he drew a pass interference on. I never said he should start at Florida. I said he didn't play as bad as it's been made out to be. QD also has bad footwork and mechanics at times. Leaning back and throwing off his back foot is going to lead to disaster in SEC play. I wish I was sold on him, I thought he was going to be really good this year and he still might be, but he's made some awful decisions at times.
 
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jakez4ut said:
QD needs to continue to get reps. the offense is functioning pretty well with him back there.

and the good news is we are seeing WR's fighting for balls and actually getting some separation...the two over throws were tough to see, but....we had great separation, and those will be there again.

QD has made mistakes, none that led to TO's, so you get to learn w/out having to pay the ultimate price. but mostly, QD's decision making, reads, check downs etc...have been pretty good.

it should only get better rep after rep after rep and tons of film study.

i think we have an excellent problem at QB. JG isn't going to suck, he's just not quite ready yet...zero doubt that he will get there though. QD is closer right now, that's all i really see.
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The interception didn't count?
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I watched the game last night and I thought JG played pretty well. He had one bad throw over the middle that was high and could have been intercepted. I thought he threw the deep ball pretty well. George dropped one, he missed Palmer by about a yard on what would have been a TD and the other deep ball drew a PI. I know he didn't run the ball but you can tell he is very mobile.

QD's play scares me to be honest. He has made some really nice throws but he's made some awful decisions as well. And he does not look off his primary receiver at all. Should never have made that throw to Palmer that was intercepted in the endzone. With him not being a threat to run the ball, SEC defenses are going to tee off on him and bait him pretty easily IMO.
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JG was 4-12 and looked like a young Quarterback. QD is clearly the better option.
 
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No he is't. Is too. No he did't. Did too. No he is't. Is too. No he did't. Did too. No he is't. Is too. No he did't. Did too. No he is't. Is too. No he did't. Did too. Etc.
 
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mccrackb said:
JG was 4-12 and looked like a young Quarterback. QD is clearly the better option.
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I'm not saying he should be starting at this point. But he did have a drop on the long ball by George, another incompletion drew a pass interference on a deep ball and he had no chance on the play where Richmond was beat and JG got destroyed.

I'm just not as sold on QD as others at this point. I worry about his consistency. He has made some really nice throws at times (The first TD pass to Callaway in the GT game, the one to BJ on Saturday) but he's playing with fire on a lot of his decisions.
 
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sjt18 said:
Explains why you repeated the myth about QD staring down receivers.

If it is true... then you should have no problem posting multiple examples.
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The interception in the endzone is the primamry example. He never look at any other receiver and threw it right into coverage. Not even a glance at the other side fo the field.

I was at the game sitting behind the endzone and it was liek i could have intercepted the pass, knew where it was going from the snap!
 
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