Jarrett Guarantano

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Berry4Heisman14 said:
my knock on QD is he stares his receivers down. it's like he decides who he is passing to in the huddle
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Just prove it. You guys keep saying it.

But to your point. If he's making correct pre-snap reads then he should have a really good idea where he's going with the ball.

UT also runs plays where the throw is designated for one receiver. The play run late to Kelly vs GT was like that. All the other receivers were supposed to do is run off the defenders so Kelly could catch the ball underneath for the 1st down.


I think it is interesting that you guys are finding all of these faults in a guy who is 25 of 35 for 363 over his last 6 quarters.... counting ISU as a whole game.

If he were TRULY staring receivers down and making the horrible, "scary" mistakes you guys claim... His numbers wouldn't be anything like that. No. Stats don't tell the whole story. But they can serve as a disqualifier of certain ideas.
 
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Interesting food for thought. GT runs a lot of zone. QD completed 75% of his passes in the 2nd half vs GT. Zone D's KILL QB's who stare their receivers down....
 
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sjt18 said:
Just prove it. You guys keep saying it.

But to your point. If he's making correct pre-snap reads then he should have a really good idea where he's going with the ball.

UT also runs plays where the throw is designated for one receiver. The play run late to Kelly vs GT was like that. All the other receivers were supposed to do is run off the defenders so Kelly could catch the ball underneath for the 1st down.


I think it is interesting that you guys are finding all of these faults in a guy who is 25 of 35 for 363 over his last 6 quarters.... counting ISU as a whole game.

If he were TRULY staring receivers down and making the horrible, "scary" mistakes you guys claim... His numbers wouldn't be anything like that. No. Stats don't tell the whole story. But they can serve as a disqualifier of certain ideas.
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I know you keep ignoring it but here is your example again!

The interception in the endzone is the primamry example. He never look at any other receiver and threw it right into coverage. Not even a glance at the other side fo the field.

I was at the game sitting behind the endzone and it was liek i could have intercepted the pass, knew where it was going from the snap!
 
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johnrlansford said:
I know you keep ignoring it but here is your example again!

The interception in the endzone is the primamry example. He never look at any other receiver and threw it right into coverage. Not even a glance at the other side fo the field.

I was at the game sitting behind the endzone and it was liek i could have intercepted the pass, knew where it was going from the snap!
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Exactly. The proof is in the int and the several dropped ints when he stared down wrs.
 
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This definitely isn't a QD vs. JG thing for me. I saw JG in the game and he needs work no doubt. With that being said, the one thing that was obvious from the jump was that he was going through his progressions. He didn't always make the right decision as to who to throw to (I would say he made the wrong decision quite a few times it seems) but you could see him going through. In no way do I think he is ready to be a starter.

With that being said, I have clearly been watching the same game as a few other posters here, QD definitely stares down receivers. That has to improve. It will cost us when we go against a real defense. Good news is if it is obvious to us then it has to be obvious to the coaches whom I'm sure are trying to correct now.

GBO!
 
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Wish he would've gotten one more drive to calm the nerves in the 2nd quarter. It's hard to judge someone 100% in garbage time playing 6,7,8 man wide receivers.
 
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johnrlansford said:
I know you keep ignoring it but here is your example again!

The interception in the endzone is the primamry example. He never look at any other receiver and threw it right into coverage. Not even a glance at the other side fo the field.

I was at the game sitting behind the endzone and it was liek i could have intercepted the pass, knew where it was going from the snap!
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Good for you! :birgits_giggle:

I've seen some plays where he looked one way and threw it the other way.

He's the best QB on the team. Unless he gets hurt, JG will be back-up
 
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johnrlansford said:
Yeah it just doesn't fit his narrative/agenda!!!:thud:
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The only people with an agenda here are you guys that won't accept the fact that QD is the better QB. You're looking at every angle in which you can criticize QD.

You need to accept the fact QD is the better QB and move on. Or you can continue to expose your ignorance and stupidity. It's a free country
 
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Just watched QD's throws vs ISU. On one play, he turned his shoulders too early on a swing pass and gave the DE a chance to get a hand on it. Otherwise, he didn't stare receivers down. There are plays where UT runs multiple receivers into an area. The QB is supposed to key off the defense to know where to throw. On the pick, QD looked short first then threw long without seeing the CB drop off.
 
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sjt18 said:
Just prove it. You guys keep saying it.

But to your point. If he's making correct pre-snap reads then he should have a really good idea where he's going with the ball.

UT also runs plays where the throw is designated for one receiver. The play run late to Kelly vs GT was like that. All the other receivers were supposed to do is run off the defenders so Kelly could catch the ball underneath for the 1st down.


I think it is interesting that you guys are finding all of these faults in a guy who is 25 of 35 for 363 over his last 6 quarters.... counting ISU as a whole game.

If he were TRULY staring receivers down and making the horrible, "scary" mistakes you guys claim... His numbers wouldn't be anything like that. No. Stats don't tell the whole story. But they can serve as a disqualifier of certain ideas.
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He could have easily thrown 2 or 3 ints against GT where he stared down a receiver. Callaway bailed him out of 1. he int against Indiana state he had someone open in the corner so you're telling me he went through his progressions on that play? I never said Jarrett was any better I simply said it'd be nice to put him in for some packages like I said PACKAGES so our zone read is you know an actual zone read to keep the defense guessing. I didn't say Jarrett is a better passer
 
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johnrlansford said:
I know you keep ignoring it but here is your example again!

The interception in the endzone is the primamry example. He never look at any other receiver and threw it right into coverage. Not even a glance at the other side fo the field.
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JUST WATCHED IT AGAIN. You should do the same. He had THREE receivers on the right side of the field. He FIRST looked short for Wolf then threw into the end zone.

I was at the game sitting behind the endzone and it was liek i could have intercepted the pass, knew where it was going from the snap!
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Well, that's pretty amazing because if you watch the video and are honest... you will see QB look short first. So either he was looking the D off and intended to throw it to the endzone... meaning he did not stare down the receiver or he looked to throw short first and then went to the deep route... which means he did not stare down the receiver.

It was a bad play. You can't make those kinds of mistakes. But it was NOT because he stared the receiver down.
 
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Just my 2 cents but to me Dormady is solidly our No. 1 right now and it's not really close.....looked like the game was moving very fast (and this was ISU) for JG and it showed. We WILL ABSOLUTELY see Dormady make poor decisions because he has played no real live game situational football for 2-3 years? The things he is doing wrong are definitely correctable with in a week of practice where as JG's will take time and snaps.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
He could have easily thrown 2 or 3 ints against GT where he stared down a receiver. Callaway bailed him out of 1. he int against Indiana state he had someone open in the corner so you're telling me he went through his progressions on that play? I never said Jarrett was any better I simply said it'd be nice to put him in for some packages like I said PACKAGES so our zone read is you know an actual zone read to keep the defense guessing. I didn't say Jarrett is a better passer
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Couple things on the INT in the endzone.

#1. I sit in the corner of the endzone and I saw it coming from the beginning. I saw QD and I saw the DB back there. Told my wife he was throwing an INT there with the DB playing centerfield. A quick look to the left would have given him a bigger window to throw in.

#2. A good throw would have been a TD. He underthrew the ball a bit and that is was caused the INT. If he would have thrown to the back pylon, the DB would not have had a good position for the INT and only the receiver would have had position to make a play.

So, to me, was a double-mistake by QD. However, the play was there with a good throw to the back of the end zone. That play would NOT be there with UF, UGa or any other SEC team.

On another note, he made some great throws in the game as well that showed good touch and leading receivers more in stride to give more yards after the catch. JG had some high throws and probably would have had a few INTs as well vs. SEC teams.

QD is the leader, and is the QB and the best option right now. JG looks to have a wide open ceiling but is not ready yet....next year could get quite interesting if JG continues to grow in the role...
 
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114VOL said:
The only people with an agenda here are you guys that won't accept the fact that QD is the better QB. You're looking at every angle in which you can criticize QD.

You need to accept the fact QD is the better QB and move on. Or you can continue to expose your ignorance and stupidity. It's a free country
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Better QB doesn't make him aQB that will win the the SEC east either. I am not arguing for JG to start I am saying that QD scares me with his decision making and Inability to scan the field for the Open receiver.

Nothing more.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
He could have easily thrown 2 or 3 ints against GT where he stared down a receiver. Callaway bailed him out of 1. he int against Indiana state he had someone open in the corner so you're telling me he went through his progressions on that play? I never said Jarrett was any better I simply said it'd be nice to put him in for some packages like I said PACKAGES so our zone read is you know an actual zone read to keep the defense guessing. I didn't say Jarrett is a better passer
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Yes. I am telling you that UT runs receivers into an area and the QB whether QD, JG, or anyone else is supposed to read defensive keys.

When did MC "bail him out"? I only saw him throw to MC once... and QD CLEARLY looked left before coming back to MC. So whether he was looking for a primary receiver on that side or just looking off the D... he did NOT "stare the receiver down". And how do you think MC bailed him out? MC was open and had a cushion.

Callaway HIMSELF said that QD put the ball on his back shoulder to keep him away from the D's inside help. So if it was a poorly thrown ball... talk to Quez about it.
 
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Ya'll act like PM never threw an INT at UT, and one from QD in 2 games makes him a bad QB.

In fact, PM threw triple the interceptions his junior year than his sophomore year with the same amount of attempts. His final 2 years, He averaged right at one per game.

Furthermore, in his Junior year PM's interception to TD ratio was 60%. 12 INT to only 20 TD. And that in his third year in the system.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes. I am telling you that UT runs receivers into an area and the QB whether QD, JG, or anyone else is supposed to read defensive keys.

When did MC "bail him out"? I only saw him throw to MC once... and QD CLEARLY looked left before coming back to MC. So whether he was looking for a primary receiver on that side or just looking off the D... he did NOT "stare the receiver down". And how do you think MC bailed him out? MC was open and had a cushion.

Callaway HIMSELF said that QD put the ball on his back shoulder to keep him away from the D's inside help. So if it was a poorly thrown ball... talk to Quez about it.
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I'm referring to the GT game where he threw it deep in double coverage and Callaway bailed him out and caught it. The TD pass to Callaway against Indiana state was beautiful
 
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lateknight said:
This definitely isn't a QD vs. JG thing for me. I saw JG in the game and he needs work no doubt. With that being said, the one thing that was obvious from the jump was that he was going through his progressions. He didn't always make the right decision as to who to throw to (I would say he made the wrong decision quite a few times it seems) but you could see him going through. In no way do I think he is ready to be a starter.

With that being said, I have clearly been watching the same game as a few other posters here, QD definitely stares down receivers. That has to improve. It will cost us when we go against a real defense. Good news is if it is obvious to us then it has to be obvious to the coaches whom I'm sure are trying to correct now.

GBO!
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Simple fact, Jones and company trust QD to check down and make audibles. No chance in Hell does JG get that trust.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I'm referring to the GT game where he threw it deep in double coverage and Callaway bailed him out and caught it. The TD pass to Callaway against Indiana state was beautiful
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The only deep ball he threw to Callaway was thrown short of the defenders where Callaway came back to it. Either Callaway was going to catch it or no one was..... Sorta hard to throw into double coverage when the defenders are behind our receiver.
 
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johnrlansford said:
I know you keep ignoring it but here is your example again!

The interception in the endzone is the primamry example. He never look at any other receiver and threw it right into coverage. Not even a glance at the other side fo the field.

I was at the game sitting behind the endzone and it was liek i could have intercepted the pass, knew where it was going from the snap!
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Then why didn't you? A true Vol fan would have intercepted it so we would have kept the ball for another down instead of letting the defense pick it off.

Some of our fans just sit by so they can see our players fail..... SAD!
 
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