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Which has nothing to do with who was in charge of the cluster **** withdrawal from Afghanistan
Right...cause negotiating directly with the Taliban to release 5000 of them back into the country against the wishes of the Afghan government, and then ordering a rapid withdrawal from Afghanistan, had no bearing on the situation?

Where's that "taking personal responsibility" that your such a fan of?
 
Let’s hope not

Hope?

Buddy, it's a miracle if we don't come out of this with a significant net negative.

-lives lost
-billions spent
-global economy disrupted

And this doesn't even touch on the damage to our global diplomacy.

Yeah, Afghanistan was a disaster. The only good thing I can say about this is that it didn't take 25 years to slowly **** up. We speed ran the abortion this time.

Woo. Hoo.
 
Hope?

Buddy, it's a miracle if we don't come out of this with a significant net negative.

-lives lost
-billions spent
-global economy disrupted

And this doesn't even touch on the damage to our global diplomacy.

Yeah, Afghanistan was a disaster. The only good thing I can say about this is that it didn't take 25 years to slowly **** up. We speed ran the abortion this time.

Woo. Hoo.
Like I said…. Let’s hope this isn’t the ultimate outcome….. regardless of the likelihood.
 
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Right...cause negotiating directly with the Taliban to release 5000 of them back into the country against the wishes of the Afghan government, and then ordering a rapid withdrawal from Afghanistan, had no bearing on situation?

Where's that "taking personal responsibility" that your such a fan of?
Who was in charge of the afghan cluster **** withdrawal?
 
Hope?

Buddy, it's a miracle if we don't come out of this with a significant net negative.

-lives lost
-billions spent
-global economy disrupted

And this doesn't even touch on the damage to our global diplomacy.

Yeah, Afghanistan was a disaster. The only good thing I can say about this is that it didn't take 25 years to slowly **** up. We speed ran the abortion this time.

Woo. Hoo.
Bottom line is we’re lead by absolute idiots and it doesn’t matter which party has that idiot in the white house
 
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Who ordered the rapid withdrawal?
Who was in charge?
When in the history of this country has a president ever said “well the last guy says we have to do this and it’s a terrible idea so there’s nothing I can do” ? Things change in days, weeks, and months. Biden and his administration completely **** the bed on this and that’s how history will remember it
 
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Who was in charge?
When in the history of this country has a president ever said “well the last guy says we have to do this and it’s a terrible idea so there’s nothing I can do” ? Things change in days, weeks, and months. Biden and his administration completely **** the bed on this and that’s how history will remember it
Who negotiated directly with the Taliban to release 5000 fighters before ordering a rapid withdrawal?
 
It’s also Turumps fault that Biden took showers naked with his 11 year old daughter

Look at you trying to deflect from Trump's involvement in the Afghanistan sh!t show; how cute.

 
Look at you trying to deflect from Trump's involvement in the Afghanistan sh!t show; how cute.

You’re an absolute moron if you think I give 2 ***** about the current criminal and chief. There’s only one person here trying to distract from accountability and that’s you
 
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You’re an absolute moron if you think I give 2 ***** about the current criminal and chief. There’s only one person here trying to distract from accountability and that’s you
And just like that "personal responsibility" goes out the window.

I agree on one part though, Biden should have just said everything Trump negotiated will not be adhered to because it was a moronic deal, and we'll remove US troops on a logical time frame.

Then you'd have been on here bashing Biden for doing so, but at least it wouldn't have been the sh!t show that it was.
 
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Nope. You said they “hate Jews”. I asked you if it might be possible that US/ Israel shared some blame for their hatred of Israel, since they really don’t just seem to simply hate Jews.
No, your comment was much more vague than that. You referred to "the current situation". I assumed that meant the war. Now you're defining it as "hatred of Israel". That's not so much the current situation. It's been that way for 50 years or more
 
No, your comment was much more vague than that. You referred to "the current situation". I assumed that meant the war. Now you're defining it as "hatred of Israel". That's not so much the current situation. It's been that way for 50 years or more
1- I was addressing another poster who said that people didn’t believe the Iranians when they said death to America. Thats the current situation that was being referenced. You interjected yourself into the conversation which is fine, but don’t tell me what i meant.

2- you made a kind of broad strokes comment about Iranians hating Jews. I politely advised you that’s not true and now you’re trying to back away from it by telling me what I did or didn’t say. I know what was said. I was there.
 
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Yes or no. Do the US and Israel bear any responsibility for the current situation?
This was a post of yours directed to me. It didn't involve any other poster here on VN

I'm not telling you what you meant. I'm saying your words were so vague, I had to guess what you meant. Be more specific and we won't have that problem
 
Again, if the US and Israel have complete air superiority over Iran, how are the Iranians able to continue firing ballistic missiles and drones, hitting targets across the Middle East? Why aren’t they’re weapons locations being spotted and destroyed as the weapons are deployed? Is there not a complete intelligence overview of Iran via satellites, drones, et al?

I am frustrated with the communication to the American people about this military campaign. Iran’s military capabilities do not appear to be “obliterated,” “devastated,” or “made ineffective.”
 
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