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Carl Pickens said:
25 years ago I had an insurance agency in an area that had a ton of Kurdish immigrants.
I became friends with one of them and he used to tell me about it and how Saddam killed all the men and boys in some of their villages in northern Iraq.
He loved George W
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Yeah Saddam was a real piece of crap but for years he was our piece of crap. I haven't heard any Arabs who weren't a despotic head of state trash the Kurds though.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Lol none of the 9/11 hijackers were Afghans, much less members of the Taliban, and Osama Bin Laden left Afghanistan in January of 2002 and was camped out in Pakistan, our "ally" until he was killed.
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And Pakistan and Afghanistan are now killing each other. I wonder what's behind that.
@Gandalf would you have any insight to share?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
You and your little group of circle jerkers on here give the impression you hope the US gets bogged down in a quagmire and ends up losers.
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Personally I'd prefer that we find a quick exit from the war we got suckered into that's of no benefit to us. But Donnie's got us pretty well stuck.
 
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hog88 said:
It will certainly improve their economy
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Only in the mid to long term if they can get any big investors and if the next head of state doesn't reverse it. It makes for a pretty bad deal for the country and American majors are skiitish about putting money there given their history. Maybe Trump can swing a deal for Roseneft or Gazprom to share the risk and rewards.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
You and your little group of circle jerkers on here give the impression you hope the US gets bogged down in a quagmire and ends up losers.
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I was against intervention to begin with. That said, now that we're in, I really do hope we win and bring positive change. Unfortunately, the longer this goes on, the less and less likely that happens. Also, it is extremely rare for US regime change to result in something good. The ambiguity in what we're actually trying to accomplish also raises alarms bells in my mind.
 
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Matt2496 said:
I was against intervention to begin with. That said, now that we're in, I really do hope we win and bring positive change. Unfortunately, the longer this goes on, the less and less likely that happens. Also, it is extremely rare for US regime change to result in something good. The ambiguity in what we're actually trying to accomplish also raises alarms bells in my mind.
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I don’t think they even had concepts of a plan
 
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Matt2496 said:
I was against intervention to begin with. That said, now that we're in, I really do hope we win and bring positive change. Unfortunately, the longer this goes on, the less and less likely that happens. Also, it is extremely rare for US regime change to result in something good. The ambiguity in what we're actually trying to accomplish also raises alarms bells in my mind.
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It is totally unacceptable the way Congress has completely given power to the executive branch to make war. All bc they are spineless asshats who want to avoid being held to account. F them all
 
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EasternVol said:
Well the resulting chaos would benefit the instigator of this conflict but the Kurds would likely get slaughtered by the tens of thousands.
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Correct, they have long guns and shoulder fired rockets, some explosives etc but not much more. They are guerilla fighters and excel in mountain warfare.

Nothing to combat drones, rockets, missiles etc.
 
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KB5252 said:
I hate abandoning the Iranian people, but I think this is the best course of action
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I wish we had and would try a good plan to help the Iranian people, not that I know what would work. Anything coming from Israel and us will be suspect there and difficult especially given the way we've been attacking.
 
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Orangeburst said:
We have the ultimate Trump card though, destroy Kharg Island and those soldiers wont get paid..may take time, but dam will break.

SA alone can pick up excess oil capacity of 3 mbpd to offset Iranian daily production.

Big issue though, what does it lead to and destroying production dims future democratic success.

Now mining their ports might work.
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We get half a million barrels a day through the strait of Homeruz. That won't take much more production to replace.
 
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www.defensenews.com

A-10 Warthogs target Iranian fast-attack craft in Strait of Hormuz

The A-10’s deployment in Operation Epic Fury comes as Congress has moved to protect it from Air Force divestment efforts.
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“The A-10 Warthog is now engaged across the southern flank, targeting fast-attack watercraft in the Strait of Hormuz,” Air Force Gen. Dan Caine said during a Pentagon briefing on the operation.
“The A-10 Thunderbolt II can loiter for hours, standing by and ready to execute a mission whenever needed,” CENTCOM said in the accompanying post on X.

Designed for close air support, the A-10 was built to fly low, slow and close to the fight, providing direct fire support to ground forces and, increasingly, to joint forces operating in contested littoral environments. Its titanium-armored cockpit, often referred to as a “titanium bathtub,” and redundant flight systems allow it to absorb significant punishment and continue flying under conditions that would ground less hardened aircraft.

Armed with a 30mm GAU-8/A Avenger cannon capable of firing 3,900 rounds per minute, AGM-65 Maverick missiles and APKWS laser-guided rockets, the A-10 can engage the small, agile surface craft the IRGC Navy has long relied upon to threaten shipping in the strait’s confined littoral environment. Its loiter capability allows crews to maintain persistent overwatch in ways that faster platforms cannot.

In a March 16 video posted to CENTCOM’s official X account, CENTCOM commander Adm. Brad Cooper said U.S. forces had destroyed more than 100 Iranian naval vessels and stated, “We will continue to rapidly deplete Iran’s ability to threaten freedom of navigation in and around the Strait of Hormuz.”
 
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Dem Rep. Underwood: We're Spending on Iran Instead of Affordability Need of ACA Subsidies

On Thursday's broadcast of "CNN This Morning," Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-IL) discussed a potential budget supplemental due to Iran and said that the money | Clips
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Rep. Lauren Underwood voted in favor of the Ukraine Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, supporting funding for Ukraine. This vote reflects her stance on international aid and security issues.

Lauren Underwood's Vote on Ukraine Funding​

Vote Details​

  • Legislation: Ukraine Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2024
  • Vote Type: Yea-And-Nay
  • Outcome: Passed

Voting Breakdown​

PartyYeasNaysPresentNot Voting
Republicans21821403
Democrats214000
Independents0000

Representative's Position​

  • Lauren Underwood: Voted Yea in support of the funding for Ukraine.
This vote reflects her stance on supporting international aid and security measures related to Ukraine.

This money could have been used as well.
 
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