Iran

[EasternVol]

25 years ago I had an insurance agency in an area that had a ton of Kurdish immigrants.
I became friends with one of them and he used to tell me about it and how Saddam killed all the men and boys in some of their villages in northern Iraq.
He loved George W

Yeah Saddam was a real piece of crap but for years he was our piece of crap. I haven't heard any Arabs who weren't a despotic head of state trash the Kurds though.

 

[EasternVol]

Lol none of the 9/11 hijackers were Afghans, much less members of the Taliban, and Osama Bin Laden left Afghanistan in January of 2002 and was camped out in Pakistan, our "ally" until he was killed.

And Pakistan and Afghanistan are now killing each other. I wonder what's behind that.
@Gandalf would you have any insight to share?

 

[EasternVol]

If they do not band together as one they will never have the country they dream of. Maybe now is the time

Well the resulting chaos would benefit the instigator of this conflict but the Kurds would likely get slaughtered by the tens of thousands.

 

[EasternVol]

You and your little group of circle jerkers on here give the impression you hope the US gets bogged down in a quagmire and ends up losers.

Personally I'd prefer that we find a quick exit from the war we got suckered into that's of no benefit to us. But Donnie's got us pretty well stuck.

 

[volfanhill]

Just go to Starbucks less you ungrateful peons

 

[EasternVol]

It will certainly improve their economy

Only in the mid to long term if they can get any big investors and if the next head of state doesn't reverse it. It makes for a pretty bad deal for the country and American majors are skiitish about putting money there given their history. Maybe Trump can swing a deal for Roseneft or Gazprom to share the risk and rewards.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I think you know what I mean.

Yes I do

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I've seen your mother, she is definitely not Mary Palmer. It's not even close.

Womp. Womp. Womp.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Just go to Starbucks less you ungrateful peons

Or drive an EV and drink way better coffee using fresh roasted beans in your own French press: win-win

 

[Matt2496]

You and your little group of circle jerkers on here give the impression you hope the US gets bogged down in a quagmire and ends up losers.

I was against intervention to begin with. That said, now that we're in, I really do hope we win and bring positive change. Unfortunately, the longer this goes on, the less and less likely that happens. Also, it is extremely rare for US regime change to result in something good. The ambiguity in what we're actually trying to accomplish also raises alarms bells in my mind.

 

[85SugarVol]

I was against intervention to begin with. That said, now that we're in, I really do hope we win and bring positive change. Unfortunately, the longer this goes on, the less and less likely that happens. Also, it is extremely rare for US regime change to result in something good. The ambiguity in what we're actually trying to accomplish also raises alarms bells in my mind.

I don’t think they even had concepts of a plan

 

[volfanhill]

I was against intervention to begin with. That said, now that we're in, I really do hope we win and bring positive change. Unfortunately, the longer this goes on, the less and less likely that happens. Also, it is extremely rare for US regime change to result in something good. The ambiguity in what we're actually trying to accomplish also raises alarms bells in my mind.

It is totally unacceptable the way Congress has completely given power to the executive branch to make war. All bc they are spineless asshats who want to avoid being held to account. F them all

 

[Matt2496]

I don’t think they even had concepts of a plan

You're probably right. It really highlights the dangers of surrounding one's self with "Yes" men/women.

 

[KB5252]

Well the resulting chaos would benefit the instigator of this conflict but the Kurds would likely get slaughtered by the tens of thousands.

Correct, they have long guns and shoulder fired rockets, some explosives etc but not much more. They are guerilla fighters and excel in mountain warfare.

Nothing to combat drones, rockets, missiles etc.

 

[KB5252]

Personally I'd prefer that we find a quick exit from the war we got suckered into that's of no benefit to us. But Donnie's got us pretty well stuck.

I hate abandoning the Iranian people, but I think this is the best course of action

 

[EasternVol]

I hate abandoning the Iranian people, but I think this is the best course of action

I wish we had and would try a good plan to help the Iranian people, not that I know what would work. Anything coming from Israel and us will be suspect there and difficult especially given the way we've been attacking.

 

[allstar34]

I wish we had and would try a good plan to help the Iranian people, not that I know what would work. Anything coming from Israel and us will be suspect there and difficult especially given the way we've been attacking.

Maybe we hook the IRGC up with cool new pagers?