Iran

[NashVol11]

We can't help even when we knew this was coming?

 

[hog88]

Knowing Trump, the plan is there is no plan. He will continue to talk about the nonexistent plan beyond “attack Iran”, but at this point, if Iranians fail to overturn their government, Trump becomes stuck between a rock and a hard place.

No revolt = no regime change.

The only way regime change would therefore occur - in all likelihood - is by the United States putting boots on the ground. Are there any examples in history of regime change for an authoritarian country of nearly 100 million people occurring without doing so?

And this of course means full on war. And lots of American casualties against the backdrop of the United States populous that already largely opposes going to war with Iran.

Alternatively, Trump tucks tail and simply declares victory (whatever that is, given no regime change) and pulls our troops out. What’s the likelihood of that?

Libya?

 

[NashVol11]

Wars can be fought "forever"

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Wars can be fought "forever"

View attachment 817650

And here is the justification for the extra $500,000,000,000.00 annually for the MIC.

Right on cue...



This isnt about Iran's destroyed nuclear program or their people or a regime charge, its about this admin giving their defense contractor masters another $500,000,000,000.00 annually.

And oil

 

[MontyPython]

Libya?

True, no American boots on the ground, but the Libyan people rose up against Gadaffi’s government and a civil war ensued.

 

[MontyPython]

So…

Was Trump lying to us in June, 2025 or is he lying to us now in March, 2026? It’s one or the other.

Should we trust a President asking us to sacrifice our children and grandchildren towards a cause solely based in his lies?

Quotes Directly Attributed to Trump (2026)​

1. On Iran as a nuclear and missile threat

“An Iranian regime armed with long range missiles and nuclear weapons would be an intolerable threat to the Middle East, but also to the American people. Our country itself would be under threat, and it was very nearly under threat.”
— Trump, in public remarks justifying the U.S. campaign against Iran, where he directly mentioned the combination of nuclear weapons and long-range missiles as a threat.

Quotes from June 2025​

1. On destruction of Iran’s nuclear facilities (official White House statement)

“Monumental damage was done to all nuclear sites in Iran… Obliteration is an accurate term!”
— Quoting Trump’s description of the U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear infrastructure, saying the sites were “obliterated.”

2. Claim that bombing campaign destroyed nuclear weapons-making capability

“Our bombing campaign obliterated Iran’s ability to create nuclear weapons.”
— Quoted in the White House briefing summarizing Trump administration assessments of the 2025 air campaign.

3. “Complete and total obliteration” (reported)
Though the full quoted speech text isn’t available in the online snippet, reports from news coverage state Trump said:

“Iran’s key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated.”
— Reported from Trump’s June 21, 2025 comments after U.S. strikes.

 

[hog88]

True, no American boots on the ground, but the Libyan people rose up against Gadaffi’s government and a civil war ensued.

My hope is something similar happens in Iran without the tribe violence.

 

[MontyPython]

My hope is something similar happens in Iran without the tribe violence.

Iran without violence… snowball in hell.

 

[Orangeslice13]

We are a bunch of idiots led by idiots

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-strikes-iran-could-cost-213222412.html

I think we established that a long time ago

 

[utvolpj]

Oh OK. So it's your reading comprehension that is the issue. Now I understand.

There is nowhere in my post that I mentioned or even implied that I wanted anyone to die. In fact...I said the EXACT opposite. That around 2 years into this nonsense, that Israel should drop pamphlets (like they have in the past, see: 6 day war) and tell everyone for a week to evacuate that tiny 3mile x 20 mile area. Mathematically in an area only 20 miles long...not 1 single person there could be more than ~10 miles from entering either Jordan or Egypt. Both of which are their Muslim brethren. Humans average walking 3miles per hour...IF the person's In question didnt have a car, scooter, bike, public transport, or some other means to travel the 10miles at most (3hour walk) to get out of Gaza. I think "even a child" would say that anyone could manage to cover 10miles in 7days. I bet you could crawl 10miles in a day or 2...especially if your life depended on it.

So after the 7day period I clearly stated in my post...Israel should flood the extensive tunnel system beneath Gaza built by the terrorists...with ocean water. Leave them that way. Then bomb, bulldoze, and level everything in Gaza. As I said previously. Its an area of roughly 60square miles which is smaller than many US cities and military bases. Use all that concrete and rebar to stop erosion on that coastline or wherever else it is best used.

Never once did I call for those occupying Gaza to be killed. They should have gotten the Hell out a long time ago though. That land is Israel. It belongs to them. While every one who occupied Gaza is not Hamas...I have seen polls that show 70%plus approval rating from that population. Also seen videos of them training elementary school kids that the greatest thing they can do in life is kill Jews. Those videos are easy to find. 7 and 8year olds with AK47s. Those people aren't gonna change because of their garbage religion. They need to evacuate.

So you want a trail of tears - Gaza style. Why does that land belong to Israel?

 

[Vol8188]

Other countries can't lobby our politicians. They have to sign up as a foreign agents.

Here's what Google says: Google Search



AIPAC is famously exempt from this requirement which is why they have free reign to lobby our politicians. Here's what Google says:



So no I can't give you a list of other countries that are lobbying our politicians because they're not allowed to while Israel is. Because like everything else the rules don't apply to Israel the way they apply to everyone else because they control our government.

AIPAC isn’t funded by a foreign government. It’s funded by Americans. FARA is for organizations that are foreign funded

 

[zeppelin128]

And how is Reddit taking the last 48 hours?Have the servers melted?

Update:

 

[SquirrelOrange3]

Rev. Mike Huckabee and most of the other American Christians never get tired of gaslighting everyone by saying this guy is God's Chosen Person and buddies too, advocating flushing the lives of American boys and girls down the toilet for these pathetic men that most American Christians worship and idolize.

 

[adam.vol]

So you want a trail of tears - Gaza style. Why does that land belong to Israel?

I’m going to answer your rhetorical question..

Because Great Britain signed a document called the Balfour Declaration in World War 1 to gain Zionist support over the Germans. They then confiscated the land from the Ottomans and cleansed it of its inhabitants.

How Britain Destroyed the Palestinian Homeland

 

[appvol]

 

[ButchPlz]

Oh OK. So it's your reading comprehension that is the issue. Now I understand.

There is nowhere in my post that I mentioned or even implied that I wanted anyone to die. In fact...I said the EXACT opposite. That around 2 years into this nonsense, that Israel should drop pamphlets (like they have in the past, see: 6 day war) and tell everyone for a week to evacuate that tiny 3mile x 20 mile area. Mathematically in an area only 20 miles long...not 1 single person there could be more than ~10 miles from entering either Jordan or Egypt. Both of which are their Muslim brethren. Humans average walking 3miles per hour...IF the person's In question didnt have a car, scooter, bike, public transport, or some other means to travel the 10miles at most (3hour walk) to get out of Gaza. I think "even a child" would say that anyone could manage to cover 10miles in 7days. I bet you could crawl 10miles in a day or 2...especially if your life depended on it.

So after the 7day period I clearly stated in my post...Israel should flood the extensive tunnel system beneath Gaza built by the terrorists...with ocean water. Leave them that way. Then bomb, bulldoze, and level everything in Gaza. As I said previously. Its an area of roughly 60square miles which is smaller than many US cities and military bases. Use all that concrete and rebar to stop erosion on that coastline or wherever else it is best used.

Never once did I call for those occupying Gaza to be killed. They should have gotten the Hell out a long time ago though. That land is Israel. It belongs to them. While every one who occupied Gaza is not Hamas...I have seen polls that show 70%plus approval rating from that population. Also seen videos of them training elementary school kids that the greatest thing they can do in life is kill Jews. Those videos are easy to find. 7 and 8year olds with AK47s. Those people aren't gonna change because of their garbage religion. They need to evacuate.

Can you not see the rich irony in you telling me I have a reading comprehension issue while you just ignore the uncomfortable parts of my post because you don't like them?

 

[Orangeslice13]

I’m going to answer your rhetorical question..

Because Great Britain signed a document called the Balfour Declaration in World War 1 to gain Zionist support over the Germans. They then confiscated the land from the Ottomans and cleansed it of its inhabitants.

How Britain Destroyed the Palestinian Homeland

 

[NashVol11]

There are very close to 0 Americans who "support the killing of 40,000 people," MAGA is constantly getting outraged over nothing

 

[ButchPlz]

View attachment 817657

The Balfour Declaration doesn't exist?

 

[Orangeslice13]

There are 0 people who "support the killing of 40,000 people," MAGA is constantly getting outraged over nothing

I thought silence was violence?
It’s also interesting how quickly people change their minds on what is and isn’t our business.

 

[Orangeslice13]

The Balfour Declaration doesn't exist?

 

[NashVol11]

I thought silence was violence?
It’s also interesting how quickly people change their minds on what is and isn’t our business.

The "silence" is fabricated as well. MAD has been shown this several times and simply pretends it didn't happen

New York City Mayor Mamdani criticizes Iran regime for treatment of protesters

New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani said during a press conference he doesn’t support how the Iranian regime is treating protesters.

komonews.com

 

[Orangeslice13]

The "silence" is fabricated as well. MAD has been shown this several times and simply pretends it didn't happen

New York City Mayor Mamdani criticizes Iran regime for treatment of protesters

New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani said during a press conference he doesn’t support how the Iranian regime is treating protesters.

komonews.com

It ain’t fabricated.
It’s there and one guy speaking out doesn’t overcome the uneven scale of scrutiny.
And how about you address me instead of anyone else who didn’t quote you at this moment.

People on both sides of our political divide have a real bad habit of changing what they believe based on who did it.
This thread is covered up with that stupidity.

 

[NashVol11]

It ain’t fabricated.
It’s there and one guy speaking out doesn’t overcome the uneven scale of scrutiny.

Who said it is only one guy? You said "silence" and that isn't true

And how about you address me instead of anyone else who didn’t quote you at this moment.

People on both sides of our political divide have a real bad habit of changing what they believe based on who did it.
This thread is covered up with that stupidity.

It's come up already in this thread because of your buddy lying about it and continuing to do so after Smokey pointed it out. That doesn't mean I'm not "addressing you," I addressed your "silence" claim directly. My point was that there isn't anyone prominent who "supports" killing 40K people, and instead of addressing that since we both know it's true, you keep raising irrelevant nonsense

 

[YankeeVol]

We should stop giving money to everyone.

That's all I want