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The Strait of Hormuz has not opened to ship traffic after the U.S. and Iran agreed to a two-week ceasefire, said the CEO of Abu Dhabi National Oil Co., or ADNOC, on Thursday.

“This moment requires clarity,” said Sultan Ahmed Al Jaber in a social media post. “So let’s be clear: the Strait of Hormuz is not open. Access is being restricted, conditioned and controlled.”

Iran has made clear that ships must obtain its permission to pass through the strait, Al Jaber said. “That is not freedom of navigation. That is coercion,” the ADNOC chief said.

ADNOC is the United Arab Emirates’ state-owned oil company. The UAE is the third-largest oil producer in OPEC, pumping 3.4 million barrels per day before the war broke out on Feb. 28

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that the ceasefire was subject to Iran agreeing to the complete, immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz.

But ship traffic through the strait has not picked up since the ceasefire took effect, freight analysts have told CNBC. Traffic remains at the slow trickle that has been observed during most of the war, they said.
 
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“Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the ****in' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP”

Hey, Donald... FYI the Strait is still closed.

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MontyPython said:
You really think we could take Iran's uranium without substantial casualties? Come on man. Better yet, do you really think we know where all or most of it is? Mossad is good, but not that good.

Iran is a VERY big country and it literally takes 35 pounds... let me repeat that 35 POUNDS... of 90% enriched uranium to make a nuclear bomb.

Hell, I've seen women around here who could hide 35 pounds of anything in their fat rolls and nobody would know.

If you think Iran can't hide 35 pounds - much less hundreds of pounds - of uranium, I got a bridge to sell you.
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Actually it's more like 27 kg or 60 lbs. How about hiding a 1000 pounds? Because that's what they have.
 
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utvolpj said:
They didn't have an AF or traditional Navy anyways. It's a hollow claim. We also boasted about crippling their missile and drone capabilities then walked that back

Hypothetically if we were forced out of bases in Bahrain and Oman would that change anything? Lots of bases in Iraq? It didn't have to be loss of life which is obviously going to be lower given the type of war chosen
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Of course they had an Air Force. Dozens of US F-4/F-5/F-14, dozens of Russian Sukhoi & MiG, Chinese fighters.

Just because it didn’t compare to ours, doesn’t mean it didn’t exist (still does, just run out of the skies).

And Iran absolutely had a green water navy. One of the more robust navies in the Middle East. Frigates, Corvettes, Soviet Subs.

It’s pretty much gone now. But it was real, and existed.

There’s plenty wrong to point fingers at.
Iran is winning this war politically.

No need to invent farcical talking points to additionally kick dirt at.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Imagine bring so tied at the hip with a terror org that they are willing to get decimated for them. So much giving up sponsoring terrorist proxies which should be a part of any path forward.
Good luck Iran.
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Iran has been operating that way for decades. Fund and lead terrorist groups all around the ME. That is what the world would continue to get by leaving them alone and not acted. That plus being China's and Russia's lunatic attack dog with nuclear weapons to then dictate to the world on their terms.
 
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CobbVol said:
Iran has been operating that way for decades. Fund and lead terrorist groups all around the ME. That is what the world would continue to get by leaving them alone and not acted. That plus being China's and Russia's lunatic attack dog with nuclear weapons to then dictate to the world on their terms.
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Iran has supplied Russia with thousands of Shahed-136 and other suicide drones since 2022 to support its invasion of Ukraine. These weapons, often rebranded as "Geran-2," are used to target Ukrainian infrastructure in swarms. Initially imported, Russia now manufactures these drones domestically using Iranian components.

Seems like they contributed heavily to Putin's invasion of Ukraine. To attack infrastructure no less.
 
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NashVol11 said:
It is 100% responsive to the post I quoted, we are willing to further tank our economy so that Israel can get the bloodshed it wants in Lebanon
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you said we do whatever Israel wants and I just gave you an example that we initiated a ceasefire against their wishes. Trump has asked them to scale back.

Regardless this is whataboutism as I was discussing Iran, and you know, their terrorists proxies.
 
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Orangeburst said:
you said we do whatever Israel wants and I just gave you an example that we initiated a ceasefire against their wishes. Trump has asked them to scale back.
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I said that they get to do what they want without us saying no to them, which is generally still continuing
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Regardless this is whataboutism as I was discussing Iran, and you know, their terrorists proxies.
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It's not whataboutism. You said to imagine being joined at the hip with terrorists to the point it hurts you, and that should be very easy for us
 
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NashVol11 said:
I said that they get to do what they want without us saying no to them, which is generally still continuing

It's not whataboutism. You should have been more specific when discussing being joined at the hip with terrorists
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It absolutely is.
Iran tied at the hip with terror org was literally my post.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
Iran has supplied Russia with thousands of Shahed-136 and other suicide drones since 2022 to support its invasion of Ukraine. These weapons, often rebranded as "Geran-2," are used to target Ukrainian infrastructure in swarms. Initially imported, Russia now manufactures these drones domestically using Iranian components.

Seems like they contributed heavily to Putin's invasion of Ukraine. To attack infrastructure no less.
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You are going to confuse a couple of bots with that logic.
 
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NashVol11 said:
It is 100% responsive to the post I quoted, we are willing to further tank our economy so that Israel can get the bloodshed it wants in Lebanon
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Nash, your point was that we cannot refuse Israel wishes. We clearly did and went ahead with the ceasefire.

If your point is that Israel is also willing to refuse our wishes, then I agree.
 
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VAVol85 said:
Nash, your point was that we cannot refuse Israel wishes. We clearly did and went ahead with the ceasefire.

If your point is that Israel is also willing to refuse our wishes, then I agree.
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They didn't change their behavior following the ceasefire, and initially our messaging was mostly "they shouldn't have to" rather than just making them stop. We should not be jeopardizing our own economy to make sure Israel can keep bombing civilians in Beirut, and it seems like our admin is finally starting to realize that
 
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