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[KB5252]

SIAP: So why not demand a surrender at the very least?

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From the NYT:

"The Sri Lankan president, Anura Dissanayake, made a public televised statement on Thursday, a day after an Iranian ship was torpedoed by the United States in the waters near Sri Lanka. He said that a second Iranian naval vessel, the IRINS Bushehr, asked the Sri Lankan government if it could dock at one of the country’s ports. Sri Lankan officials decided to bring the 208 people on the ship — 53 officers, 84 cadet officers, 48 senior sailors, 23 sailors — to Colombo and take the ship into custody in Trincomalee, on the east coast, rather than in Colombo, one of the busiest commercial ports in the world."

Al Jaazera:

"Sri Lanka has evacuated 208 crew members of an Iranian navy vessel, President Anura Kumara Dissanayake said, a day after a US submarine struck and sank another Iranian frigate.

He said Sri Lanka’s navy will also take over the second vessel and shift it to the northeastern port of Trincomalee for safekeeping amid fears that it could be a target for an attack."

So the US was also invited and knew the Iranian Navy would be unarmed. Withdrew and waited on their return to attack and sink their ship just to display it to the American public like it was and active warship. Rather dishonorable action in my estimation.

If true this deserves condemnation

 

[rikberry31]

One single person being wrongly given the death penalty is one too many and justification to abolish it

Technically we all have the death penalty. In the end, God is in charge of that.

 

[hog88]

Well that many violent felons have been turned loose this week.

And your point is?

Is keeping them locked up worth innocent people being incarcerated?

 

[Smokey123]

Technically we all have the death penalty. In the end, God is in charge of that.

Not remotely the same

 

[rikberry31]

What?
Then we could not be more opposed on this.

I would watch 100 killers walk before I watched 1 innocent man be falsely convicted.

How many capital case whoopsies are you ‘ok’ with?g

Bad people will get off, good people will be unjustly accused, nothing ever can fix that. Ultimate justice is the hands of God and he is never wrong.

 

[OHvol40]

Are babies kosher? Anybody know for sure?

Ask Stephen Miller. They are a regular part of his diet.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

What udder . As O'Donnell knows the United States military is a volunteer force. It's made up of men & women who know they are signing up to be sent to war and the possibility of being injured or killed while in the service of their country.

If Barron Trump joined the military he would put an extra target on the unit he is assigned by the United States enemies all over the world.

Clearly, you miss the point that Trumpy's family has always dodged military service under some pretence or another. And here we are again, with yet anither. It's not BS, it's history. And well, Britain's royal sons served in Afghanistan {Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex} for example. Now, what's your excuse for baby bone spur? OH, I know, cover for Trump with both hands and all four feet. MAGAs gonna MAGA.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Clearly, you miss the point that Trumpy's family has always dodged military service under some pretence or another. And here we are again, with yet anither. It's not BS, it's history. And well, Britain's royal sons served in Afghanistan {Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex} for example. Now, what's your excuse for baby bone spur? OH, I know, cover for Trump with both hands and all four feet. MAGAs gonna MAGA.

The United States has a all volunteer military, Barron Trump doesn't have to serve if he doesn't want to.

Like his father, he may be called to serve his country in another way down the road.

Prince William & Harry volunteered as was expected of them as members of the Royal family. Particularly Prince William as the heir to the throne.

 

[LouderVol]

They changed from Persia to Iran at the suggestion of Nazi Germany. In Farsi Iran means "Land of the Aryans". The arab world was very sympathetic to the Nazis, they were in lockstep in their hatred of the Jews. We see the remnants of it it in the Islamofascists (terrorists) of today.

I am sure it had absolutely nothing to do with trying to distance themselves from the failures of the old Persian monarchies and moving to a different system. I am sure the Nazis just pulled "Iran" out of their racist butts, and had no clue the area was called Iran before it was known as Persia. The locals, who wanted the name change, always called the AREA Iran even if the country was known globally as Persia.

not saying they weren't aligned with the Nazis, but yall aren't looking at everything. its not a term the Nazis created.

 

[ButchPlz]

SIAP: So why not demand a surrender at the very least?

View attachment 818133

From the NYT:

"The Sri Lankan president, Anura Dissanayake, made a public televised statement on Thursday, a day after an Iranian ship was torpedoed by the United States in the waters near Sri Lanka. He said that a second Iranian naval vessel, the IRINS Bushehr, asked the Sri Lankan government if it could dock at one of the country’s ports. Sri Lankan officials decided to bring the 208 people on the ship — 53 officers, 84 cadet officers, 48 senior sailors, 23 sailors — to Colombo and take the ship into custody in Trincomalee, on the east coast, rather than in Colombo, one of the busiest commercial ports in the world."

Al Jaazera:

"Sri Lanka has evacuated 208 crew members of an Iranian navy vessel, President Anura Kumara Dissanayake said, a day after a US submarine struck and sank another Iranian frigate.

He said Sri Lanka’s navy will also take over the second vessel and shift it to the northeastern port of Trincomalee for safekeeping amid fears that it could be a target for an attack."

So the US was also invited and knew the Iranian Navy would be unarmed. Withdrew and waited on their return to attack and sink their ship just to display it to the American public like it was and active warship. Rather dishonorable action in my estimation.

This is bad.

 

[Weezer]

The uniform should not be used as a political tool.

Those in uniform are used as political tools all the time. Politicians start wars, not soldiers.

 

[ButchPlz]

Those in uniform are used as political tools all the time. Politicians start wars, not soldiers.

You're sort of correct, there are tons of soldier politicians in uniform. Just look in the Pentagon.

 

[adam.vol]

Saving money and less govt is not an idea from the left

I’m OK if they think it is their idea, just as long as we all vote for it.

 

[Vol8188]

Those in uniform are used as political tools all the time. Politicians start wars, not soldiers.

They chose that occupation.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[85SugarVol]

Bad people will get off, good people will be unjustly accused, nothing ever can fix that. Ultimate justice is the hands of God and he is never wrong.

Not “accused” as you keep trying to reframe this as.

Convicted. Incarcerated. Terminated.

Final arbitration of one’s eternal soul has less than zero to do with falsely punishing innocent men here on earth.

 

[OrangeTsar]

SIAP: So why not demand a surrender at the very least?

View attachment 818133

From the NYT:

"The Sri Lankan president, Anura Dissanayake, made a public televised statement on Thursday, a day after an Iranian ship was torpedoed by the United States in the waters near Sri Lanka. He said that a second Iranian naval vessel, the IRINS Bushehr, asked the Sri Lankan government if it could dock at one of the country’s ports. Sri Lankan officials decided to bring the 208 people on the ship — 53 officers, 84 cadet officers, 48 senior sailors, 23 sailors — to Colombo and take the ship into custody in Trincomalee, on the east coast, rather than in Colombo, one of the busiest commercial ports in the world."

Al Jaazera:

"Sri Lanka has evacuated 208 crew members of an Iranian navy vessel, President Anura Kumara Dissanayake said, a day after a US submarine struck and sank another Iranian frigate.

He said Sri Lanka’s navy will also take over the second vessel and shift it to the northeastern port of Trincomalee for safekeeping amid fears that it could be a target for an attack."

So the US was also invited and knew the Iranian Navy would be unarmed. Withdrew and waited on their return to attack and sink their ship just to display it to the American public like it was and active warship. Rather dishonorable action in my estimation.

And we knew the Iranian ship was „unarmed“ how?
Did we just take their word for it? Was there an inspection?
Call me crazy; but I don’t always accept what the Iranians say at face value.

And even if was unarmed; military doctrine is not that you allow a weapons platform to return to its base to rearm so that it can then attack you.
Same principle in that during a war, you can still shoot down a bomber after it has made its run and is on its way home; even though it currently has no bombs on board.

 

[Weezer]

They chose that occupation.

And the man you were criticizing earned the right to wear his uniform.

 

[hog88]

Those in uniform are used as political tools all the time. Politicians start wars, not soldiers.

Looks like you've never been in a bar downrange in a military town.

 

[NashVol11]

And we knew the Iranian ship was „unarmed“ how?
Did we just take their word for it? Was there an inspection?
Call me crazy; but I don’t always accept what the Iranians say at face value.

And even if was unarmed; military doctrine is not that you allow a weapons platform to return to its base to rearm so that it can then attack you.
Same principle in that during a war, you can still shoot down a bomber after it has made its run and is on its way home; even though it currently has no bombs on board.

It was at a naval conference that required each attendee to be unarmed. We were scheduled to be one of the attendees before pulling out at the last minute and attacking Iran's representative

 

[Weezer]

Looks like you've never been in a bar downrange in a military town.

Growing up on Navy bases, can't say I was in a bar, but I have seen Squids and Jarheads throw down.

Family squabble. It's different.

 

[LouderVol]

And we knew the Iranian ship was „unarmed“ how?
Did we just take their word for it? Was there an inspection?
Call me crazy; but I don’t always accept what the Iranians say at face value.

And even if was unarmed; military doctrine is not that you allow a weapons platform to return to its base to rearm so that it can then attack you.
Same principle in that during a war, you can still shoot down a bomber after it has made its run and is on its way home; even though it currently has no bombs on board.

there were more than two options.

what happened with the other Iranian ship was probably the best option. Have it dock in a neutral port, the troops are taken off the boat, and the boat stays while the host country holds it until after the conflict has ended.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

The United States has a all volunteer military, Barron Trump doesn't have to serve if he doesn't want to.

Like his father, he may be called to serve his country in another way down the road.

Prince William & Harry volunteered as was expected of them as members of the Royal family. Particularly Prince William as the heir to the throne.

Volunteering and avoiding isn't the same boat docked at port. Now shoo, and join Trumpon is referring to our service personnel as suckers and losers.

 

[newarkvol]

If true this deserves condemnation

AP:

Iranian warship sunk by the US was sailing home after taking part in an exhibition hosted by India

Officials in New Delhi say that an Iranian warship that was sunk by a U.S. submarine near Sri Lanka had participated in naval exercises hosted by India before heading out into international waters in the Indian Ocean on its way home.

apnews.com

Even the Kriegsmarine aided targeted enemy merchants and sailors until a notorious American bombing run on a German rescue convoy caused them to nix the policy. Rescuing anyone at sea, including defeated combatants, is/was a universally acknowledged obligation in maritime practice.

 

[McDad]

Ask Stephen Miller. They are a regular part of his diet.

Stephen Miller???

Maurice? The Gangster of Love?