If we lose to Arkansas, where does that put Pruitt and the fanbase?

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DenmarkVol said:
This. Exactly this. What do we (and Pruitt) have to lose and what do we have to gain by playing another QB the rest of this season? It seems like Pruitt might be playing skeert if he sticks with JG as our only option...i.e. playing not to lose.
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Agreed. It is hard to parse stubborn vs scared. In the end I am not sure if it matters.
 
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Cartervol said:
If they lose to Sam Pittman in his first year at Arkansas it's just another indictment on a bad hire. I'll say they either go 3-2 or 2-3 down the stretch. Possibly 1-4 and they're still not firing Beldar. This administration doesn't give a **** about football and the fans should take note of that and save their money, that's if they ever let people back in the stands..
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I've said that for years...They never have cared about winning...Just putting butts in the seats and counting their profits off the sell of anything orange and white.
 
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dcibrando said:
I’m getting dejavu every couple of years regardless of the HC, staff, or players we have and the results seem to always end up the same. We get frustrated with lack of results, we demand a new coach eventually, and then we rinse and repeat all over again.

If we come off a bye week and lose to Arkansas (who has been a dumpster fire more than us in previous years, but doing well in year 1 with a new HC and a transfer qb), where does that put Pruitt and volnation?

I know it’s a covid year and we just played Georgia and Bama in the last 3 games, but the Kentucky game and others questionable things are starting to eat at the fanbase.

Last year we somehow went on a long winning streak to end the season but of course the remaining games this year are going to be more challenging and also ending with Florida which is going to either potentially save the season if we win or leave a bad taste in our mouths in the entire off season and the hot seat gets warmer again.

Where do we go from here to eventually get different results? Give the staff more time to see if they can finally get the ship going in the right directions, or in a couple of years punt and get a new coach and think things will be different the next time around?

I think this is going to be a long rebuild regardless of the coach. There are some questionable things happening at times but are we too quick to start thinking about coaching searches once again and thinking anything will be different if we hit the reset button? I’m also beginning to think the more we fire our coaches after a couple of seasons, the less real coaches would want to come here.

All I know is I want us to be good again. How we get there I don’t know but I’m getting tired of the cycle which ends up the same way
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The program is not one bit better than it was under Butch. At least with Butch we would blow out a good program in the bowl game. Pruitt was barely able to beat Indiana. Now that I think about it, Butch was undefeated in bowl games and every bowl game was against a quality opponent. No improvement with this guy. Gotta hire someone who has gotten it done before in the SEC. No more of these Cincinnati guys, whatever school that was Dooley came from, and now Pruitt who is also had zero SEC head coaching experience. I mean, a good coordinator at a top school who played here, yes. That was Fulmer at one time, as the OC here and a past player here. But, someone unproven as a SEC HC who spent their life up to that point never even being a UT fan much less a player, that is never going to work.
 
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VolBricks said:
I agree with you, we cannot keep firing a coach every 3-4 years and starting over. Look at KY, they have clearly always been a basketball school and football was just kinda there. They hire Stoops and give him time and now they are a upper middle of the pack SEC team instead of a lower tier SEC school. I think we have to give Pruitt 5 years minimum, we were a dumpster fire when he arrived (and maybe still are).
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middle of the pack
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Sounds simple. Its not. No good HC is going to look at TN given how we have treated our previous HCs. If Pruitt doesnt end up turning things around, then it will be another coordinator hire.
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That’s so much bullshot. We have treated our previous head coaches better than their performance deserved and all walked away with big paydays.
 
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Sarms58 said:
Our D should be able to stop the Arkansas O but their D is playing pretty good and forcing turnovers. I never though Franks was an accurate passer but he is a big guy and can hurt us with his scrambles. It’s a winnable game but we have to show up and play.
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A bunch of 2 stars that are disciplined will beat a bunch of poorly coached 4 stars.....
 
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beachmaster said:
I think Pruitt had some good, sound coaching opinions when he was first hired. When the team did not gel, over the last two years, he seemed lost and doesn't know how to fix things. He keeps firing assistants to hopefully right the ship. He needs help in working things out from someone who has been there. IMO, we need a consultant, not named Fulmer, who doesn't have ties to the program. Again, all my opinion.
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Pittman hired Missouri HC as D coordinator and he is probably the de facto HC. I see interviews with Pittman and he goes on and on about Barry Odom. Pitt is getting info from a basically current HC and Pruitt is getting info from a great HC from the 90's which the conference was totally different JMO.
 
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We’re not losing to Arkansas. This is the point in the season where their enthusiasm for the new coach starts to wane and we are much improved coming off the bye. It’ll be close through 3, but the run game pulls away in the fourth qtr.
 
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That would be my expectation, particularly if Pruitt jumped for a defensive coordinator position in the NFL, as his future in the coaching business could end up much like Dooley's or Butch's and would be further limited in options coming out of a meltdown at Tennessee, he doesn't have the communication skills to do television and he is not a gamer like Kiffin, so he cannot melt away at Tennessee,

There is an abundance of Fulmer fatigue at Tennessee and we need to move on, the past is the past, Fulmer's time is over, the program needs to stand on its own without being beholden to things that happened 20 years ago, took Alabama even longer to get where they are now after Bear Bryant, the sooner Tennessee moves on the better they will be.
 
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The same place we have been since the Dooley hire. Disappointed every season. Yet fed a line of BS and hyped to see the same horrible product on the field the next year.
 
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Pittman has done an impressive job with Arkansas they haven't exactly been rated very high in any recruiting season yet he is getting the ultimate effort of what he has. I figure were in for a very tough game and the chances of winning are no better than losing even though we should have a definite talent advantage.
 
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I'll go ahead and say it...If We lose to Arkansas then not one member of that coaching staff should be allowed on the plane home...They should all be fired before they reach the locker room...Absolutely no excuse for losing to a 1st year coach who took over the worse team in the SEC and lose.
 
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Ok, so someone referenced the "Legions of The Miserable".. Ah yes, the quote from Coach Majors, don't remember if it is in this thread or another one, but I will assume the individual is probably in their mid 40's or older, as I am almost 54. Anyway, fans are pissed right now, because we got hammered by Kentucky by 27 points @ home! The worst loss to them since 1935! 1935 - When ELVIS was born! To the fellow fan referencing the "Legions of the Miserable" quote - Sir/Madam, trying to defend Jeremy Pruitt by using a quote from Coach Johnny Majors, and in my opinion compare the two, just will not cut it... Jeremy Pruitt will not be a National Championship winning coach, like Johnny Majors did at Pittsburg. Coach Majors got a longer time to turn things around because he was a Tennessee Man, as you know, and had won the National Title at Pittsburgh for the 1976 season.. In my opinion, and my point as respectfully as I can make it, is that Coach Pruitt will not lead us to an SEC Title, let alone a National Title.. In my opinion, we are regressing and moving backwards.. Yes, I know he won't be fired now, continuity, recruiting, etc.. But, in my opinion, and this is just me, he will be given until at least through the 2022 season to get things going.. I don't think Pruitt and his staff are capable of that, but I sincerely hope I'm wrong. What bothers me the most is that this team plays soft in my opinion, and has no determination or will to win! I think Pruitt excelled as a defensive coordinator due to the fact that he had talented rosters at Bama, UGA, FSU, etc.. Anyway, I think we will have a new Coach to start the 2023 season, hope I'm wrong but the losses are very bad...
 
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Dr H Lecter said:
Unfortunately, and I’m an old man, the only proven coach UT has hired in my lifetime was Coach Majors, and that would never have happened had he not have been orange through and through. For a National Championship coach, we got him dirt cheap. Everyone else was a promising “up and comer” we rolled the dice on.
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Doug Dickey was a very good hire also.
 
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Ledzepvol said:
Ok, so someone referenced the "Legions of The Miserable".. Ah yes, the quote from Coach Majors, don't remember if it is in this thread or another one, but I will assume the individual is probably in their mid 40's or older, as I am almost 54. Anyway, fans are pissed right now, because we got hammered by Kentucky by 27 points @ home! The worst loss to them since 1935! 1935 - When ELVIS was born! To the fellow fan referencing the "Legions of the Miserable" quote - Sir/Madam, trying to defend Jeremy Pruitt by using a quote from Coach Johnny Majors, and in my opinion compare the two, just will not cut it... Jeremy Pruitt will not be a National Championship winning coach, like Johnny Majors did at Pittsburg. Coach Majors got a longer time to turn things around because he was a Tennessee Man, as you know, and had won the National Title at Pittsburgh for the 1976 season.. In my opinion, and my point as respectfully as I can make it, is that Coach Pruitt will not lead us to an SEC Title, let alone a National Title.. In my opinion, we are regressing and moving backwards.. Yes, I know he won't be fired now, continuity, recruiting, etc.. But, in my opinion, and this is just me, he will be given until at least through the 2022 season to get things going.. I don't think Pruitt and his staff are capable of that, but I sincerely hope I'm wrong. What bothers me the most is that this team plays soft in my opinion, and has no determination or will to win! I think Pruitt excelled as a defensive coordinator due to the fact that he had talented rosters at Bama, UGA, FSU, etc.. Anyway, I think we will have a new Coach to start the 2023 season, hope I'm wrong but the losses are very bad...
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We already knew you were an old geezer, just on your avi alone!😎
GBO!!
 
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