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#751
BeardedVol said:
His words:




The reason that Greenland hasn't had another referendum on independence, is because when polled, a majority of residents don't support independence if it means a lower quality of life.

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That's from a year ago when trump started this nonsense, and they've since come out and said that if Independence from Denmark means having to join the US, then they'll just stay part of Denmark.
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What are you arguing for/against and what has it to do with the US Virgin Islands?

While the word "forcing" may be a bit strong when referring to colonization of Greenland by Denmark, it's not like the Greenies have much of a choice.
 
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EasternVol said:
Why would Denmark cede any oil or mineral rights though? They'd be better off doing things themselves. We're far from the only country with companies able to mine minerals and drill for oil.
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To not have to deal with European environmental nut cases? That would be a good reason. Let the US nut cases, bless their hearts, fuss and sit back and collect royalties.
 
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1. money doesn't seem to be much motivation
2. even if money was more of a motivation - they can still develop it, they have actually gone the other way
3. even if 1 and 2 were not a factor, why would anyone want to deal with the U.S. at this point in time?

What Trump is saying is, don't trust the U.S. and run.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/16/trump-greenland-tariffs.html

Trump’s suggestion that he may wield tariffs to get his way on Greenland came after he described a similar strategy to force foreign countries to raise their drug prices.
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LSU-SIU said:
I don't know what you mean by the U.S., the work is either contracted out if state controlled, or agreements are made on the royalties. The U.S. isn't doing any work.
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Contracting is work, too. I did not mean USA using a shovel; I meant managing the work. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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EasternVol said:
Why would Denmark cede any oil or mineral rights though? They'd be better off doing things themselves. We're far from the only country with companies able to mine minerals and drill for oil.
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They have already stated that they have no plans to exploit their resources (said it about two weeks ago). And if they make bank by doing nothing, that's a bonus. Plus no environmental insult since most work is underground.
 
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#757
BeardedVol said:
So I take it you are in favor of the US giving up the Virgin Islands, whom we ironically purchased from Denmark and as part of the sale acknowledged Greenland as Danish territory, and other US territories that are defacto colonies?
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I'd trade the islands for Greenland in a heartbeat.
 
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MHS Rebel said:
They have already stated that they have no plans to exploit their resources (said it about two weeks ago). And if they make bank by doing nothing, that's a bonus. Plus no environmental insult since most work is underground.
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Maybe they want to keep them for later. And if they don't want to exploit them then they'll not agree to foreigners exploiting them.
 
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BeardedVol said:
So it's not really about "anti-colonialism" for you, but rather that you can point to an independence movement, that makes it easier to hold your opinion on US acquisition of foreign territory.

Otherwise, you'd acknowledge that fact that the Greenland PM, has stated that in spite of seeking independence from Denmark, they have no desire to be part of the United States, and that if independence from Denmark would mean having to become part of the US, that they'd just stay part of Denmark.
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I think Greenland would be better suited entering into some kind of union with Iceland to be frank.
 
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BeardedVol said:
His words:




The reason that Greenland hasn't had another referendum on independence, is because when polled, a majority of residents don't support independence if it means a lower quality of life.

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www.euractiv.com

Virtually no Greenlanders want to join the US, new poll finds | Euractiv

Only 6% are in favour of becoming part of the US.
www.euractiv.com www.euractiv.com

That's from a year ago when trump started this nonsense, and they've since come out and said that if Independence from Denmark means having to join the US, then they'll just stay part of Denmark.
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Your data supports my argument lol.

Greenlanders don't like Copenhagen. I openly said that I was unsure if they really wanted to join the United States. However, it is clear they don't want to be owned by Denmark.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I think Greenland would be better suited entering into some kind of union with Iceland to be frank.
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Well, if you want your opinion on the matter to carry any weight, then you should probably immigrate to Greenland first.
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They have similar cultures and identity. With 60k people, Greenland will have it tough being solo.
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Mother of god that's a staggering admission of ignorance on the cultures of both Iceland and Greenland.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
What are you arguing for/against and what has it to do with the US Virgin Islands?

While the word "forcing" may be a bit strong when referring to colonization of Greenland by Denmark, it's not like the Greenies have much of a choice.
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Because he was trying to wrap his argument in "anti-colonialism" in an attempt to give it more gravitas.

I used VI as an example, because they are a de facto US colony, that we obtained from Denmark, and part of the deal, was us recognizing Greenland as Danish territory.

Again, Denmark isn't forcing Greenland to remain a part of Denmark at the moment; Greenland hasn't called a binding referendum under the 2009 independence framework because there's not support for independence if it lowers the quality of life.
 
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MHS Rebel said:
Contracting is work, too. I did not mean USA using a shovel; I meant managing the work. Sorry for the confusion.
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They really wouldn't be even managing work, depending on what you mean by managing. I don't see how that really changes the math per se whether its Greenland doing or another government that has regulatory oversight.

I have no idea why anyone would trust the U.S. at this point, but if someone was purely interested in top dollar - open up bidding.
 
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#769
MontyPython said:
Laughable.

NATO reports that all member states (except Iceland who has no military) are expected to meet the 2% of GDP defense spending guideline for 2025. Some Eastern and Northern European countries (e.g., Poland, Baltic states) already spend well above 2% of GDP and are boosting capabilities.

So, YEAH, the EU is contributing what they're supposed to with NATO.

Here's the real question, Pancho... do you want the US to be the "leader of the free world" or not? Or do you want us to be a self-centered bunch of pussies? Make up your mind.

If yes, we're gonna have our military bases overseas.

HINT: This is how things work, bro.

As for Ukraine, same situation: We're either the military leader of the world or not.
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Ok Whistle britches, I expect that as the leader of the free world we hold other countries accountable, Trump did that. If the election wasn’t stolen there wouldn’t be a Ukraine situation. But since there is, and they’re not in NATO, Europe does the heavy lifting and we support them.
 
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tim said:
I actually read this. The headline is fake, he said “we’ll see”. This is the left reporting disguised as media
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Kind of like how they’re blasting headlines saying that Trump is threatening to invade Greenland. As far as I can tell our military is only an option if Russia or China attempt to take Greenland.
 
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