Dobbs is not the answer

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crunchimusmaximus said:
Bray was light years ahead of Dobbs as a true freshman and made better decisions throwing the ball as well....considering everyone is always calling Bray a headcase, that has to be concerning.
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Bray also had the advantage of a full winter strength program, spring practice, and full summer before his freshman year.

Bray's top two receivers his freshman year were seniors, including one who was an NFL starter the next season. A freshman QB throwing to freshmen receivers isn't a recipe for instant success.

Again, I'm not saying Dobbs is our savior. If Ferguson beats him out, that's great. All I'm saying is it's not reasonable to judge what kind of career he's going to have based on what we've seen so far. It wouldn't be fair to Ferguson if it had been him. He has performed about as well as I expect a true freshman throwing to true freshmen to do.
 
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To say you expect a freshman to struggle is one thing. That's logical. To say you expect a freshman to go 14 qtrs without ever throwing a TD, have 5 picks....and only pass for 16 yards with 25 seconds left in the game against a Vandy squad that was missin EVERY STARTING PLAYER in the secondary by the 4th qtr is borderline insane. Pull your head out of your butt. Dobbs performance has been horrific...and I am a certified sunshine pumper. Hate negavols...but c'mon man...are you guys blind? If he lights it up in the spring and beats out Riley...great. Hope he is all SEC. Right now he is absolutely terrible. The worst QB in the SEC....and the worst play by a frosh UT QB I have ever seen. I am 36 years old...don't miss a game. The kid is hard to even watch.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Bray was light years ahead of Dobbs as a true freshman and made better decisions throwing the ball as well....considering everyone is always calling Bray a headcase, that has to be concerning.
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You think him being a headcase referred to where he threw the ball?
Bray also threw to a starting nfl wr and starting nfl te as a freshman, with an nfl rb behind him, while not playing against 5 top 10 teams in a row.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
Bray was light years ahead of Dobbs as a true freshman and made better decisions throwing the ball as well....considering everyone is always calling Bray a headcase, that has to be concerning.
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Bray also had a MUCH better and more experienced WR corps to throw to. Huge difference. Also look at Brays opponents he started against: Memphis, Ole Miss, Vandy, UK, UNC.

Dobbs: Alabama, Missouri, Auburn, Vandy and UK.
 
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I agree Dobbs is not the QB of TN.

Who though ??

Will be a long season next year of the same no passing game trying to run with a weak O line.
 
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I am not sure how anyone can pass judgement on a true freshman QB.
Freshmen QBs usually suck ...there are the exceptions ...but they are rare . Coaches try not to start them .
Manning was in an open competition with Brandon Stewart his freshman year . His greatness was not obvious at that point.
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Dobbs has the measurables. I will withhold judgement until he has had a chance to mature
 
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majic73 said:
I am not sure how anyone can pass judgement on a true freshman QB.
Freshmen QBs usually suck ...there are the exceptions ...but they are rare . Coaches try not to start them .
Manning was in an open competition with Brandon Stewart his freshman year . His greatness was not obvious at that point.
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Dobbs has the measurables. I will withhold judgement until he has had a chance to mature
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When Bray played in his first game against South Carolina you could immediately tell he had serious arm talent. He proved it by blowing out Ole Miss. Dobbs has done nothing but get worse on his throws down field in each successive game. He's compared to Tee Martin but Tee threw lasers. He was sometime very inaccurate but he could throw the ball down field and challenge the defense. Dobbs has yet to prove he can do that and I do not think the coaches will give him a chance today. It will be another game plan similar to Vandy. Butch does not want to be saddled with the worst team in Tennessee football history.
 
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FBtime said:
When Bray played in his first game against South Carolina you could immediately tell he had serious arm talent. He proved it by blowing out Ole Miss. Dobbs has done nothing but get worse on his throws down field in each successive game. He's compared to Tee Martin but Tee threw lasers. He was sometime very inaccurate but he could throw the ball down field and challenge the defense. Dobbs has yet to prove he can do that and I do not think the coaches will give him a chance today. It will be another game plan similar to Vandy. Butch does not want to be saddled with the worst team in Tennessee football history.
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I think we may try to open it early but if it goes like Vandy with early ints we will fall back to a run only game plan and play keep away. Imo
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
You can ALWAYS see flashes or sparks of greatness from true freshman qbs who will be good later. Besides his scrambling, there are zero sparks with Dobbs. Zero....he hasn't evenvput it in the endzone once! And 50 something yards against Vandy????????? Really????!!! We could have plucked Bray for example as a senior in high school with no practice at UT under his belt and he would easily have had more than 50 yards.......some guys just have it and some don't...Dobbs clearly doesn't have it....worst passing qb I have ever seen to get meaningful playing time at UT...kid is an epic bust.
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You're outside your ******n mind.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
I'll admit, when I first saw Dobbs and his cannon arm and running ability, I thought he would us to new levels. I was wrong. Yeah, he can run, but his pocket presence and ability to throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield accurately is terrible. I'm not sure if that can be taught during the offseason or not. When you don't throw a single touchdown pass in any game you play, there is something wrong. Here is to hoping the QB competition in the spring will yield a good QB for us next year. As much as I was disappointed in Worleys play, we would have won against Vanderbilt and probably would have been competitive against Missouri. Between Worley, Ferguson and Dobbs, surely we have a competent SEC QB going forward.
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I think we see why Riley was ahead of Dobbs. Riley is just as mobile and maybe even more. Wouldn't call Dobbs arm a cannon. Riley's is supposed to be a lot stronger from reports. I don't know who the answer is but am anxious to see what Riley can do and hopefully he shows out and wins the job in the spring. Dobbs is still inaccurate and doesn't have much pocket presence. I know he is just a FR but he has actually shown zero improvement from game to game and has actually looked worse. There was a reason Riley was ahead of him, hopefully in a few months we see why.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
So you people honestly expected a true freshman, non-early enrollee QB to have success with no experienced receivers and average at best running backs? Name one QB that has come in with that situation and had any success in the SEC.

His starters at receiver all season were two true freshmen, a redshirt freshman and a sophomore that is only capable of playing slot receiver. The receivers barely gave Worley a chance to win, you add in a true freshman and there's basically no chance.

Trying to judge Dobbs (or Ferguson if it had been him) is unbelievably premature at this point. I guarantee you'll see a different guy in the spring game and a hell of a competition between Dobbs and Worley this summer.

Ferguson is going to have a shot as well, but if you're expecting to be the savior, keep hoping. He may be the guy one day, but Dobbs has looked better in every aspect of the game from the start, despite what some media have said. Ferguson has looked fine in drills, but his work in team periods closed to the media never had him in the mix. Hopefully, he takes a step forward as well. But if Dobbs improves the way he should with the experience he's gotten this season, he's going to be the guy for some time coming.
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Tried telling people this as well, but was labeled a Dobbs lover.
 
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dobbsonaut11 said:
Really hoping Dobbs has a breakout game tonight. Would love to see 3 TD passes. He needs confidence. Confidence is key.
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jasonvol18 said:
I think we see why Riley was ahead of Dobbs. Riley is just as mobile and maybe even more. Wouldn't call Dobbs arm a cannon. Riley's is supposed to be a lot stronger from reports. I don't know who the answer is but am anxious to see what Riley can do and hopefully he shows out and wins the job in the spring. Dobbs is still inaccurate and doesn't have much pocket presence. I know he is just a FR but he has actually shown zero improvement from game to game and has actually looked worse. There was a reason Riley was ahead of him, hopefully in a few months we see why.
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You do know its is a proven fact RF was not ahead of Dobbs right? RF would look no better as a true freshman against these teams. Dobbs is 60% completion playing three top ten teams and one game without the only deep threat. Averaging only 30 yards less than Worley was with a better percentage despite playing better teams. So you think RF would have led us to more than 10 in one half against Bama and had more than 240 on Mizzou? Dobbs also has had several tds dropped. In all game type situations JD has outperformed RF.
 
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k-town_king said:
You do know its is a proven fact RF was not ahead of Dobbs right? RF would look no better as a true freshman against these teams. Dobbs is 60% completion playing three top ten teams and one game without the only deep threat. Averaging only 30 yards less than Worley was with a better percentage despite playing better teams. So you think RF would have led us to more than 10 in one half against Bama and had more than 240 on Mizzou? Dobbs also has had several tds dropped. In all game type situations JD has outperformed RF.
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16 yards passing against vandy with 4 DBS out is Not gonna win many games!
 
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