Dan Mullen thread (merged)

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I don't think it's an issue to worry about. Dan has a smart agent that's getting g him a raise. 8-4 at Starkville=statue
8-4 at UT/UF=fired
 
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Booker512 said:
Mind as well keep Brady hoke at that point. About the same Record overall.
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Apples to oranges. If Brady had that record with northwestern it might be more of a comparison, but northwestern doesn't have to play the sec west every year. He's made it easy to forget just how hard a job Mississippi State is.
 
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If you ask why, you have to ask where.

If Mullen were at a number of different schools, he would be the talk of the town. Playing Bama, LSU, A&M, Auburn, Ark, Ole Miss every year with the worst resources in your conference doesn't exactly help your record.
 
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What Schiano did at Rutgers is more impressive.

And he is a coach driven to win.

Not saying Schanio should be Tennessee's first choice.

But he should definitely be the choice over Mullen


That's the argument for Mullen right. He can't win good games because it's Miss st.

Schanio WON against top 25, top 10 , top 5 opponents & won bowl games at Rutgers

Miss st >>> Rutgers
 
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Number of Mullen threads gonna catch up with the number of Gruden threads. Soon.
 
#1,134
#1,134
Dudes been there almost ten years. No ones stole him away. He’s not a bad coach, but he’s basically the best 8-4 coach in the country. If we are being honest.

Would anyone here want Arkansas Brett? Sumlin?

If not then why would u want Mullen? They’ve all had similar success in the same division.

Mullen hasn’t been able to beat Alabama his entire tenure at Mississippi state, so we want him here? Where we also can’t beat Alabama....and now add to that Kirby Smart at Georgia—another guy that’s got Dan Mullen’s number, and then possibly Chip Kelly at Florida....uh, Mullen just isn’t going to cut the mustard. Nice guy. Ok coach. But no thanks.

Yes. That’s not exactly a destination job he’s at down there, But if he’s doing so well there, why can’t he get recruits to come there? If he’s so smart and such a great snag, why hasn’t he hauled ass someplace else yet?
 
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Booker512 said:
Dudes been there almost ten years. No ones stole him away. He’s not a bad coach, but he’s basically the best 8-4 coach in the country. If we are being honest.

Would anyone here want Arkansas Brett? Sumlin?

If not then why would u want Mullen? They’ve all had similar success in the same division.

Mullen hasn’t been able to beat Alabama his entire tenure at Mississippi state, so we want him here? Where we also can’t beat Alabama....and now add to that Kirby Smart at Georgia—another guy that’s got Dan Mullen’s number, and then possibly Chip Kelly at Florida....uh, Mullen just isn’t going to cut the mustard. Nice guy. Ok coach. But no thanks.

Yes. That’s not exactly a destination job he’s at down there, But if he’s doing so well there, why can’t he get recruits to come there? If he’s so smart and such a great snag, why hasn’t he hauled ass someplace else yet?
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So, you think A&M are similar jobs?
 
#1,136
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MSU has small stadium, not good facilities, plays in the best division in USA, has mostly 2-3 stars and damn near beat the best team in decades
 
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Starkville doesn't have hardly anything at all. The stadium seats only 60K (crazy when I looked that up the other night). Imagine playing that Bama game with only 60K there, and then realizing that is what we have at a Spring Game. Additionally, Mullen has to play Bama, LSU, Auburn every year, along with talented Ole Miss teams the last several years. More accurate to see how he has done against SEC East schools than look at overall SEC record in my opinion. Mullen would be a great hire
 
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Roustabout said:
So, you think A&M are similar jobs?
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Never said that. I’m just saying why not Sumlin? At least he beat Alabama once. I don’t care about the job. Yes, that does play a small roll, but truly good coaches don’t let that hold them back. Look at Matt Campbell at Iowa state...arguably a worse school than Mississippi state, and he’s going up to every big time game and socking people in the mouth. THATS a big time coach.

Mullen would leave Mississippi state and maybe win 1 more game a year. But he’s not winning an SEC championship. He’s a pretty good coach. Yes. But I don’t see Dan Mullen winning a national championship.

The peak of his career was getting beat to pieces and absolutely dominated by GT in the Orange Bowl after a good 2014 season. That’s all he’s ever done at Mississippi state. And yes. I am aware Mississippi state is a dumpster fire. But he took a dumpster fire to an average of 8 wins. That’s 1.5 wins better than their historical average. Big whoop. You guys act like he is beating the brakes off everyone out there. Dude just got stomped by Georgia. Every team we have to beat, he gets beat by when he plays them. No. No. No.
 
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JohnnyJava said:
Frankin coached in the weaker East. Franklin's record against SEC East (8-9) significantly worse than Mullen's 15-6 record vs East. I do agree that they are comparable level coaches, and that either would represent an upgrade over what we have suffered through the last decade.
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Yea well his east record includes 9 wins Vs. Ky.
 
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vols1221 said:
Yea well his east record includes 9 wins Vs. Ky.
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He also has 5 wins over Ole Miss, everyone else, generally not so good in the West. I think he is a decent coach, kind of like a new Houston Nutt, but Nutt actually was a winner. Either way, bring the checkbook, already the 4th highest paid coach in the SEC and soon will be the 3rd highest and he doesn't have to win every year.
 
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MS State was pretty much the Vanderbilt of the West division when Mullen took over.
With limited resources, he's turned them into a team that can compete toe-to-toe with Bama.
Imagine what he could do at a program with the resources of UT.
 
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Many of the same people who say Mullen is a mediocre, 8-4 coach, loved them some Butch and thought this year felt "a lot like 1998". Forgive me if you've already proven your inability to see things clearly...
 
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vols1707 said:
I'll keep on saying it if your interested in Mullen because he won with less talent.

And he is awful vs top 25 teams what is he now 3-26 bs top 25😵

Go with Schanio he WON at RUTGERS with RUTGERS talent vs the top 25

You put Schanio at Miss st and he would have a WAY better record than Mullen has had there.
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And this is what is known as pure speculation, and it can just as easily be said that if you put Mullen at Rutgers he would have a WAY better record than Schiano had there.

And for the record, I like Schiano a lot, but you can't equivocally say he would do better facing the gauntlet that Mullen faces every season in the West.

Both are very good coaches who took traditional bottom feeders to places they had never been before.

Both would be good hires.

However, one of the two already has a very good understanding of life in the SEC.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
There are so many threads I'm not sure what's brought up. I was wondering why the big media outlets are pushing Mullen so hard. What has he accomplished that makes him a sure thing in their eyes?
His conference record leaves alot to be desired at best. I believe there are better candidates out there than him.
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What did James Franklin accomplish in his time at Vandy? They have similar resumes and it is pretty easy to see. Would you agree a 9 win season in the West is more impressive than a 9 win season in the East? I sure as hell would.

If Mullen can win 10 games with the Vandy of the west imagine what he could do with us.
 
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Special Ed said:
MS State was pretty much the Vanderbilt of the West division when Mullen took over.
With limited resources, he's turned them into a team that can compete toe-to-toe with Bama.
Imagine what he could do at a program with the resources of UT.
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Kind of like Houston Nutt? I mean what is said about Mullen was said about Nutt, matter of fact, when Saban left LSU, he was asked by the AD who he thought LSU should go after.... Houston Nutt. Mullen is a decent coach but I don't know about spending the kind of money we are already talking about. He is already the 4th highest paid coach in the SEC and he is probably a due a raise and an extension for beating LSU.

Bring the checkbook.
 
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Mullen not first choice, but I would take. Interesting no talk about Doug Marone. Granted, short time at UT, but has ties to Fulmer. Paid in middle/low rungs of NFL, and UT could give him a raise if he wanted to get back into college. No nonsense, all business guy.
 
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Franklin's accomplishments at Vandy are much more impressive. Vandy had 1 winning season since 1983 when he was hired. Franklin took them to back to back 9 win seasons in 3 years. The last time Vanderbilt had a 9 win season? 1915. Miss St had some decent years under Sherrill in the 90s. Even played us in the SEC Championship. They just screwed up by hiring Larry Croom.

Miss St isn't a powerhouse but they're no Vanderbilt.
 
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