Dan Mullen thread (merged)

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volncleveland said:
Mullen is the best get-able coach we could hope to hire. He's won in the west, he has a winning record against the east, and he's done it with a team that's marginally more talented than Vandy. He is an absolute home run hire and it's amazing that a lot of our fan base doesn't realize that.

Mullen>Butch>Dooley

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He's not my first choice either, but surely you can see why he is being sought. He has competed well in the SEC West during a time of historical greatness for that division. You have seen what Franklin has been able to do once moving to a place with a higher ceiling. Or Urban Meyer. Or Nick Saban. Or Bill Self. Mike Krzyzewski...the list is extensive of good coaches who needed to go to a top program to really win big.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
There are so many threads I'm not sure what's brought up. I was wondering why the big media outlets are pushing Mullen so hard. What has he accomplished that makes him a sure thing in their eyes?
His conference record leaves alot to be desired at best. I believe there are better candidates out there than him.
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rockydoc said:
volncleveland said:
Mullen is the best get-able coach we could hope to hire. He's won in the west, he has a winning record against the east, and he's done it with a team that's marginally more talented than Vandy. He is an absolute home run hire and it's amazing that a lot of our fan base doesn't realize that.

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Not sure what "won in the west" means.... generally put he is a loser in the West. Either way someone is going to have to make him the 2nd highest paid coach in the SEC and probably the whole NCAA to make it happen. They gave him a raise after a losing season last year.

My take, if he stays at MS, he will be the 2nd highest paid coach in the SEC within 12 months regardless if someone makes a run at him.
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njvols said:
Mullen not first choice, but I would take. Interesting no talk about Doug Marone. Granted, short time at UT, but has ties to Fulmer. Paid in middle/low rungs of NFL, and UT could give him a raise if he wanted to get back into college. No nonsense, all business guy.
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He's winning at Jacksonville. Would he leave a secure NFL job to go back to coaching in college again? I like the idea. He and Schiano are two under the radar coaches that I like.
 
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Booker512 said:
Dudes been there almost ten years. No ones stole him away. He’s not a bad coach, but he’s basically the best 8-4 coach in the country. If we are being honest.

Would anyone here want Arkansas Brett? Sumlin?

If not then why would u want Mullen? They’ve all had similar success in the same division.

Mullen hasn’t been able to beat Alabama his entire tenure at Mississippi state, so we want him here? Where we also can’t beat Alabama....and now add to that Kirby Smart at Georgia—another guy that’s got Dan Mullen’s number, and then possibly Chip Kelly at Florida....uh, Mullen just isn’t going to cut the mustard. Nice guy. Ok coach. But no thanks.

Yes. That’s not exactly a destination job he’s at down there, But if he’s doing so well there, why can’t he get recruits to come there? If he’s so smart and such a great snag, why hasn’t he hauled ass someplace else yet?
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It’s very simply logic and I’m stunned so many struggle with the concept of context when have a discussion about a coach. Starkville is a dumpsite, the school lacks the resources of every other school in its division, it has to compete with Ole Miss for in state recruits, etc. They have a tradition of losing like no other school in the league and Mullen has won there consistently. The deck is stacked against him every year and yet he wins. I’ve posted this fact multiple times of the last few days and still people dont get it: Miss St has only won 9 or more games 5 times in the HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM before Mullen. He’s about to do it for the 4th time in his tenure. Give him Tennessee resources and recruiting budget and he will crush it.

By knocking his record or accomplishments as not good enough means that you see Miss State as equal to Tennessee in terms of program status. That can only mean your opinion of Tennessee is in the toilet, or you just don’t have a clue about SEC football.
 
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let see had Miss St ranked #1, not bad considering it is one of those Mississippi schools.

if he can do that at Miss St. I would like to see what he could do here, with the resources UT has.
 
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people are acting like dan mullen is the second coming of christ. guy has never beatin alabama or won a west title. he makes 5 mill a year and can go 8-4 to be a local celebrity. has a 68-45 overall record in 8 years. 32-38 in the conference...but it's miss state they say...he isn't supposed to win they say...that's nonsense. it's the sec and they pay him 5 mill a year.
 
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I'd rather have Mullen than Gruden. Mullen is my top guy, not that it matters lol. Just hope if we land him our fans don't crap all over the hire. He'd be the most proven hire since Majors imo.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
And this is what is known as pure speculation, and it can just as easily be said that if you put Mullen at Rutgers he would have a WAY better record than Schiano had there.

And for the record, I like Schiano a lot, but you can't equivocally say he would do better facing the gauntlet that Mullen faces every season in the West.

Both are very good coaches who took traditional bottom feeders to places they had never been before.

Both would be good hires.

However, one of the two already has a very good understanding of life in the SEC.
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I agree on speculation Civan

That's every coach Tennessee is looking at

It's a speculation that this or that coach would do good.

Schanio just has a more proven track record and a much more proven career as a winning HC over Mullen.
 
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Ok

Dan Mullen recruiting at Tennessee going head to head vs SEC head coaches......

Any coach can look at a recruit with absolute confidence and say to that recruit.

"We beat him when he was at Miss St., we will beat him at Tennessee. You make your choice on where you want to play. We win games in prime time here at______ Dan Mullen is 3-26 vs the top 25. Your choice on what sideline you want to be on when us & Tennessee play.

Dan Mullen's PATHETIC record vs the top 25 in the SEC has sealed his fate in this league trying to go big time.

FLORIDA THINKS MULLEN WOULD BE THEIR LAST RESORT HIRE. Because of these reasons.

And some want Mullen at Tennessee.

Some of you have some serious beaten wife syndrome
 
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I don't think Mullen is a guy you target. He's your fallback if the first few targets don't work out. He's been at Miss St since 2009. It's not like he's an unknown or anything. Plenty of great jobs have come up and he's still at Miss St.

He'll just get a raise to stay at Miss St anyway probably.
 
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So he didn't get the recruits at State, but yet he did get State to #1, even if it was for a very short time. No one has ever done that at State in the modern times. And at the same time Ole Miss got up to #3 even though they were cheating. Tebow sad that Mullen was the best coach he has ever had. Also, State was 13th in the SEC in spending money on recruiting. He would have everything here. He would get the players here. His SEC record is not stellar but he is in the West and 6 of those games count every year against his record. He didn't win for a year or two, he has done well there for 9 years. He knows what it takes to win in the SEC. Ole Miss is the rich school in the state. The odds have been against Mullen. I believe he would do well at UT.
He's in the West and he's been over .500 7 of the 9 years he has been there. Only 2 losing seasons.
 
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Vol1962 said:
So he didn't get the recruits at State, but yet he did get State to #1, even if it was for a very short time. No one has ever done that at State in the modern times. And at the same time Ole Miss got up to #3 even though they were cheating. Tebow sad that Mullen was the best coach he has ever had. Also, State was 13th in the SEC in spending money on recruiting. He would have everything here. He would get the players here. His SEC record is not stellar but he is in the West and 6 of those games count every year against his record. He didn't win for a year or two, he has done well there for 9 years. He knows what it takes to win in the SEC. Ole Miss is the rich school in the state. The odds have been against Mullen. I believe he would do well at UT.
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1. He got to Miss st to #1 yes. That's also the year he won his games vs top 25. He had a one hit wonder year.

2. Tebow saying Mullen was the best coach he ever had explains why Tebow washed out so quickly in the NFL

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This is not a good thing to point to as a selling point on Mullen.

3. He does not know what it takes to win in the SEC

He does know how to loose in the SEC
 
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vols1707 said:
1. He got to Miss st to #1 yes. That's also the year he won his games vs top 25. He had a one hit wonder year.

2. Tebow saying Mullen was the best coach he ever had explains why Tebow washed out so quickly in the NFL

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This is not a good thing to point to as a selling point on Mullen.

3. He does not know what it takes to win in the SEC

He does know how to loose in the SEC
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Tebow never was a pro QB
 
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vols1707 said:
Ok

Dan Mullen recruiting at Tennessee going head to head vs SEC head coaches......

Any coach can look at a recruit with absolute confidence and say to that recruit.

"We beat him when he was at Miss St., we will beat him at Tennessee. You make your choice on where you want to play. We win games in prime time here at______ Dan Mullen is 3-26 vs the top 25. Your choice on what sideline you want to be on when us & Tennessee play.

Dan Mullen's PATHETIC record vs the top 25 in the SEC has sealed his fate in this league trying to go big time.

FLORIDA THINKS MULLEN WOULD BE THEIR LAST RESORT HIRE. Because of these reasons.

And some want Mullen at Tennessee.

Some of you have some serious beaten wife syndrome
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come up with Dan Mullen's pitch to recruits at TN and compare notes. if you can really do that, you know, objectively.....if you could, you might find some really nice counter points to the short sighted, and lazy, statements made above.....
 
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"No, I’m saying that, regardless of those factors, Mullen is more of a sure thing to win at Tennessee than Gruden or Kelly. Some will stop reading right now. "

I didn't stop reading there, but should have.

This IDIOT thinks that neither Chip Kelly or John Gruden can do better than 32-38 in the SEC over 8.5 years???

Just TOO STUPID to have access to a computer.

Mullen is FOOL'S GOLD as a HC in the SEC....great at developing the shiny and attractive position...not so great at the rest....

Would any of you take a 32-38 record in the SEC over the next 8.5 years with NO appearances in the SEC championship game? But trips to 8 BOWL games?














Didn't think so....:crazy:
 
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