Cooper

[37620VOL]

Don’t let the door hit her in the ass out the door. This will be 3 schools in four years.

As was Latham ... as will be many of the scrubs we bring in to try to replace her

 

[37620VOL]

See ya!

Rebuild entire roster. Their play was horrible this year

Another Cooper ain't walking through that door.

 

[DDavis]

You know we still finished tied for 6th in the SEC final standings last season, right? We still LONG ways from the bottom. Kim waxed Kellie's Mizzou team by 40 last season still I think. Relax. We gonna be fine.

So you think Tennessee will make the tournament next year? Lol

 

[UTLadyvolsfan]

I get it the players are leaving. But name one of them that didn’t play with their own agenda this year. Not one of them acted like they were playing with a teammate they wanted to be on the court with other than the sisters.

This is really hard to answer. I can't speak for Kim or how things ran in the locker room or behind closed doors. But several things were very clear.

1) For the most part, Kim recruited athletes who weren't great at putting the ball in the basket (hence the plethora of O-boards we were fortunately able to get and sometimes put back in)
2) The kids she recruited did not mesh well. Some of that is on them (attitude especially Barker IMHO), and maybe others.
-But some of that is on Kim for not fostering a team environment and constantly pitting them against each other (ie. starter plays poorly just 1 game, you are coming off the bench the next game)
3) Kim taught almost no offense. A few passes, jack up a 3, crash the O-boards. As a team we shot just over 30% from 3. Not good enough to make that your primary offense.
4) The front of the press was solid. The rest of the defense was like swiss cheese.
5) The hockey line sub pattern was a disaster. Not the right players and IMHO not effective for a high-end WCBB team. There's a reason literally no other team in the top 50 plays that way.

I'm disappointed for sure, but at this point, just beaten down. The hits just keep coming. Just sad.

 

[spojo13]

Another Cooper ain't walking through that door.

Yep, it’ll either be a bunch of mercenaries or players that not a single SEC level school was interested in.

 

[vol94]

Another Cooper ain't walking through that door.

May be a good thing. A team is collective unit. We had too many individuals. It was embarrassing and locker room was a mess.

 

[james_govols]

So. This is what the bottom looks like…

Only up from here chuckie....I hope anyways.

 

[Volstylexx]

May be a f


May be a good thing. A team is collective unit. We had too many individuals. It was embarrassing and locker room was a mess.

You know what the opposite of team is ?

One player. That’s all that’s left. lol

 

[TUCK #13]

Personally, I’m glad Cooper is leaving. Yes she was a heck of an offensive player. But her defense was nonexistent 95% of the time, she was lazy as he!!, and definitely was NOT a team player. It was all about 55. That was the problem with the majority of our team….selfish.
There are a few that I hate to see go, but to have a good team, you have to have: 1st - players that want to win for the Lady Vols & 2nd - players that play hard, with good attitude & no quit in them.
My $0.02

 

[37620VOL]

May be a f


May be a good thing. A team is collective unit. We had too many individuals. It was embarrassing and locker room was a mess.

If everyone on our team worked as hard as Coop, we would have been Elite Eight at worst.

 

[vol94]

You know what the opposite of team is ?

One player. That’s all that’s left. lol

Ok- rebuild. I’ll give coach time

 

[37620VOL]

Personally, I’m glad Cooper is leaving. Yes she was a heck of an offensive player. But her defense was nonexistent 95% of the time, she was lazy as he!!, and definitely was NOT a team player. It was all about 55. That was the problem with the majority of our team….selfish.
There are a few that I hate to see go, but to have a good team, you have to have: 1st - players that want to win for the Lady Vols & 2nd - players that play hard, with good attitude & no quit in them.
My $0.02

I am so sorry that you don't know anything about defense.

 

[Volstylexx]

May be a f


May be a good thing. A team is collective unit. We had too many individuals. It was embarrassing and locker room was a mess.

This is a full reset with zero continuity, zero leadership, and no identity. That’s the problem with building an entire new team.

Chemistry isn’t something you flip on in October. Leadership doesn’t magically appear when everyone is new. That stuff gets built over time—and right now, there’s nothing to build on. If you thought this year looked bad, wait until you see a group of girls who barely know each others names.

 

[VolFan_stuck_in_the_901]

This is a full reset with zero continuity, zero leadership, and no identity. That’s the problem with building an entire new team.

Chemistry isn’t something you flip on in October. Leadership doesn’t magically appear when everyone is new. That stuff gets built over time—and right now, there’s nothing to build on. If you thought this year looked bad, wait until you see a group of girls who barely know each others names.

Please tell me the boosters are coming up with a plan to get this woman out next year and the AD put in his place.... like what is going on right now should be infuriating everyone including Candace Parker

 

[Unimane]

This is really hard to answer. I can't speak for Kim or how things ran in the locker room or behind closed doors. But several things were very clear.

1) For the most part, Kim recruited athletes who weren't great at putting the ball in the basket (hence the plethora of O-boards we were fortunately able to get and sometimes put back in)
2) The kids she recruited did not mesh well. Some of that is on them (attitude especially Barker IMHO), and maybe others.
-But some of that is on Kim for not fostering a team environment and constantly pitting them against each other (ie. starter plays poorly just 1 game, you are coming off the bench the next game)
3) Kim taught almost no offense. A few passes, jack up a 3, crash the O-boards. As a team we shot just over 30% from 3. Not good enough to make that your primary offense.
4) The front of the press was solid. The rest of the defense was like swiss cheese.
5) The hockey line sub pattern was a disaster. Not the right players and IMHO not effective for a high-end WCBB team. There's a reason literally no other team in the top 50 plays that way.

I'm disappointed for sure, but at this point, just beaten down. The hits just keep coming. Just sad.

Can I also concur the starting "formula" is insanely stupid, as dumb as the hockey sub pattern? You're right, it creates this idea of individual stats over the team and this unending jumbling of starting lineups. To me, this is the sort of gimmick stuff which damages the team. You can operate a pressing, quick shooting team, but managing the people poorly is where you lose folks.

 

[vol94]

This is a full reset with zero continuity, zero leadership, and no identity. That’s the problem with building an entire new team.

Chemistry isn’t something you flip on in October. Leadership doesn’t magically appear when everyone is new. That stuff gets built over time—and right now, there’s nothing to build on. If you thought this year looked bad, wait until you see a group of girls who barely know each others names.

I always respect and enjoy reading your comments - even if I disagree.

You’re spot on. It will be difficult. And next yr may be worse. If so, Caldwell is gone.

But that locker room was a mess and it started early. A lot of resentment towards one another. Players not wanting to listen to coach or so called “leaders” on the team.

It’s a mess. And Coach is the leader of the team. She is aware of the situation and who is leaving and staying- though the entire rites may flip.

Things were so bad that it was beyond repair w/ the roster. And it was NOT all
Coach’s fault. But, she made a lot of mistakes and owning them.

 

[rogatl]

This is really hard to answer. I can't speak for Kim or how things ran in the locker room or behind closed doors. But several things were very clear.

1) For the most part, Kim recruited athletes who weren't great at putting the ball in the basket (hence the plethora of O-boards we were fortunately able to get and sometimes put back in)
2) The kids she recruited did not mesh well. Some of that is on them (attitude especially Barker IMHO), and maybe others.
-But some of that is on Kim for not fostering a team environment and constantly pitting them against each other (ie. starter plays poorly just 1 game, you are coming off the bench the next game)
3) Kim taught almost no offense. A few passes, jack up a 3, crash the O-boards. As a team we shot just over 30% from 3. Not good enough to make that your primary offense.
4) The front of the press was solid. The rest of the defense was like swiss cheese.
5) The hockey line sub pattern was a disaster. Not the right players and IMHO not effective for a high-end WCBB team. There's a reason literally no other team in the top 50 plays that way.

I'm disappointed for sure, but at this point, just beaten down. The hits just keep coming. Just sad.

Really accurate assessment.

 

[Volstylexx]

Please tell me the boosters are coming up with a plan to get this woman out next year and the AD put in his place.... like what is going on right now should be infuriating everyone including Candace Parker

Boosters stepped up this year—DW wouldn’t even return the calls.

Players went to him directly—he made it clear nothing was changing.

So the only message left was the roster itself… a steady stream of exits that started before the season even ended.

And Danny White’s response? Basically: “cool. What’s for lunch”

 

[chuckiepoo]

Oh no, there’s an entirely different level below of not making the tournament.

So. Other levels of hell. I think i read that….

 

[vol94]

This is a full reset with zero continuity, zero leadership, and no identity. That’s the problem with building an entire new team.

Chemistry isn’t something you flip on in October. Leadership doesn’t magically appear when everyone is new. That stuff gets built over time—and right now, there’s nothing to build on. If you thought this year looked bad, wait until you see a group of girls who barely know each others names.

I agree

 

[cwbytruckers]

That is a narrative but it is absolutely not true.

absolutely it probably isnt true. im just referring to body language.

 

[lvocd]

So. This is what the bottom looks like…

Sadly, I don’t think we’re quite there yet.

 

[cwbytruckers]

So you mean to tell me Kim recruited or kept each player that didn’t fit her system? The same people praising the uconn win and sweet 16 need to realize those same girls Coop and Zee especially were the same girls everyone couldn’t wait to see grow in the system… maybe it’s not the players so much as it is the coaching staff! You had an established coach get the F outta town to move him and his aging mom for the same salary in the same conference we gotta stop ignoring the signs right in front of our faces

dont read to much into what i was trying to say. Im talking about body language from them most of the time. they just looked uninterested so often.

 

[37620VOL]

Sadly, I don’t think we’re quite there yet.

Sometimes rock bottom has a basement

 

[AllVols3]

Prior to this season maybe. Mostly lack of hustle and questionable attitude this season IMO

Absolutely, why is Cooper getting a pass for her lack of effort and just overall lack of caring about the LV in general. She's not alone in thet at all. You can add Barker, Zee, and Nya to that list. I really dont know why Kim even stays. This is beyond fixable, at least it looks like to me. This is a total mess.