Coaching or talent or both?

[sonofUT62]

even if it’s talent, that’s still the coaches responsibility.

Obviously we’re getting a new DC but it’s more than just schemes we need some better coaching.

And on offense we clearly had better talent than we expected this year, CJP or Halzle needs some killer instinct.

Halzle was actually impressive tonight. We actually ran the ball in the 2nd half and stuck with it. We just left too much time on the clock.!

 

[joevols89]

Agreed. Not sure if it was opt outs or something else but I’ve never seen so many last names that I didn’t recognize.

Most of those names you had never seen before would’ve been the top of a typical Illinois class.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Good coaches don’t have teams that execute poorly. Thats why they’re considered good coaches.

Sure they do. OSU executed poorly against IU. Kirby’s guys executed poorly against Bama in their first game. I can go on and on with examples.

 

[Baseball25]

Has anyone seen Josh give a player a royal chewing out like Saban and Spurrier did? You perform or you're out of the game. Next guy in and both of those coaches got results. We stick with what is not working.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Coaching can make the difference seem smaller than it is. They recruit in the 40-50 range.

Perhaps youth is a bigger part of the issue. The defense looks physically weak

 

[sonofUT62]

Most of those names you had never seen before would’ve been the top of a typical Illinois class.

We had Bolton on the field on the 3rd and 6. Like was said…it is what it is.

 

[landscapingvol]

Well he lost his starting quarterback in the spring and lost his best two cornerbacks on defense. These things matter.

Losing the two starting db’s have absolutely nothing to do with not being able to tackle or consistently getting pushed off the line or horrendous linebacker and safety play

 

[MurphyVol]

Sure they do. OSU executed poorly against IU. Kirby’s guys executed poorly against Bama in their first game. I can go on and on with examples.

I believe he left out the word consistently.

 

[vols40]

Tennessee is more talented than Illinois and lost anyways. Primarily coaching in my opinion

Did the coaches step on the left guards ankle, miss a very makeble fg in the first half, or jump offsides on 3rd and 6 late ensuring we would not get the offense back on the field?

With that said the coaches didn't lose the game tonight but it's painfully obvious coach Knowles has got to teach assignment, technique to include how to tackle in the open field and stop running yourselves out of the play on defense.

Objectively the defense needs a lot of work and I think the decencies on the defensive side of the ball and a couple of ill timed missed FG are the difference between a 2 -3 loss season and a 5 loss season.

Go Vols

 

[joevols89]

We had Bolton on the field on the 3rd and 6. Like was said…it is what it is.

Bolton and Wright the 2 obvious exceptions. Rest of the guys are talents Illinois would love to have.

 

[rocytop2624]

We can agree to disagree, I say we lose Arkansas and Miss St with Nico.

Tonight Niko would have won this game.

 

[Stacmot]

Lot of our talent was either sitting out or injured.

Or uninterested

 

[YankeeVol]

Lmao troll

I was being funny, but he is a better coach than JH.

Absolutely a worse human being though

 

[joevols89]

Did the coaches step on the left guards ankle, miss a very makeble fg in the first half, or jump offsides on 3rd and 6 late ensuring we would not get the offense back on the field?

With that said the coaches didn't lose the game tonight but it's painfully obvious coach Knowles has got to teach assignment, technique to include how to tackle in the open field and stop running yourselves out of the play on defense.

Objectively the defense needs a lot of work and I think the decencies on the defensive side of the ball and a couple of ill timed missed FG are the difference between a 2 -3 loss season and a 5 loss season.

Go Vols

Coaches are 100% responsible for discipline. Jumping offsides is a discipline issue. Heupel recruited and stuck with Gilbert. He could’ve signed anyone else.

 

[Doberman]

Sure they do. OSU executed poorly against IU. Kirby’s guys executed poorly against Bama in their first game. I can go on and on with examples.

And all their losses and poor performances combined are less than Heupel’s.

 

[MurphyVol]

Tonight Niko would have won this game.

With 18 pass calls and no blocking, good luck. I saw what he looked like all season with no blocking.

 

[VOLinAL]

Mostly coaching. I however won’t discount the fact that losing an All American CB and all SEC caliber corner didn’t hurt us.

We had better swing big on a portal QB and about 10-15 defensive guys or get another QB somewhere and hand it to Faizon. We absolutely need 3-4 defensive tackles, 2-3 safeties as well as corners.

 

[onevol74]

Did the coaches step on the left guards ankle, miss a very makeble fg in the first half, or jump offsides on 3rd and 6 late ensuring we would not get the offense back on the field?

With that said the coaches didn't lose the game tonight but it's painfully obvious coach Knowles has got to teach assignment, technique to include how to tackle in the open field and stop running yourselves out of the play on defense.

Objectively the defense needs a lot of work and I think the decencies on the defensive side of the ball and a couple of ill timed missed FG are the difference between a 2 -3 loss season and a 5 loss season.

Go Vols

No, but running that kickoff back was the knife in our back.

 

[Doberman]

Losing the two starting db’s have absolutely nothing to do with not being able to tackle or consistently getting pushed off the line or horrendous linebacker and safety play

Especially when you replaced one of them with a projected 1st or 2nd round NFL pick.

 

[vavolfan6]

Our starting 22 could’ve opted out and we still out talent Illinois.

Doesn't mean we are more experienced, more instinctual, or more disciplined.

 

[joevols89]

With 18 pass calls and no blocking, good luck. I saw what he looked like all season with no blocking.

Eh. I’m not a Nico fan but he runs for 100+ against this scheme tonight. He doesn’t take any of the sacks JA took tonight.

 

[Bigorangedan23]

It is what it is at this point. The game is basically ruined anyway.

I got to live through the good years of college football. Wasn’t perfect but players didn’t “opt out”! Hacksaw Reynolds played hurt and bloody, Al Wilson played with a dislocated shoulder,Peyton played a full four years, players would give their left nut to play every game every play. Andy Kelly was tough as nails and didn’t opt out.Opt out means you quit on your school and you quit on the fans that give the players their all!! Being afraid cause you might get hurt is a risk to take for your team, your fans.
This generation is a group of whiners. Just afraid!

 

[sonofUT62]

With 18 pass calls and no blocking, good luck. I saw what he looked like all season with no blocking.

So did Knowles….just kidding….

 

[Baseball25]

Tonight Niko would have won this game.

Did you not watch the game?? Our offensive line is downright sorry in pass protection.

 

[VOLinAL]

Coaches are teachers. If your whole class passes the spelling test and you fail it’s on you. If you all fail it’s on the teacher. The majority of the defense sucks. It’s not one guy. It’s coaching.