Coaching or talent or both?

[BigOrangeTrain]

Tennessee is more talented than Illinois and lost anyways. Primarily coaching in my opinion

Lot of our talent was either sitting out or injured.

 

[cherokeeeVOL]

How many times have we turned over coaches around here only to be right back frustrated again, complaining that the coaches suck? They have got to figure out how to get experienced talented players in here or it’s going to over sooner rather than later.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

In year 5? Lol

He is being sarcastic because he hates this team.

 

[YankeeVol]

anytime you lose a starting quarterback with nothing behind him you have problems.

But what about Josh’s other QBs then….

 

[Cartervol]

Its easily both..

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

for all you folks fired up about getting rid of Heupel who are you gonna get?

 

[CAVPUT]

Why ask this question? Football is the ultimate team sport. You have to have the talent and you have to have the coaching. If one is lacking then you won’t win big.

I don't disagree about needing both, but the question is valid IMO. I see us as lacking both coaching and talent. Suppose one could argue that the coaching staff assembled this limited roster so ultimately they're responsible for that, too.

 

[casual-observer]

In year 5? What's he been doing

NIL. There is no more “building rosters”

 

[YankeeVol]

for all you folks fired up about getting rid of Heupel who are you gonna get?

Brian Kelly. His fake accent should be perfected by now.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

How many times have we turned over coaches around here only to be right back frustrated again, complaining that the coaches suck? They have got to figure out how to get experienced talented players in here or it’s going to over sooner rather than later.

Whoa now. You can’t be blaming players. Don’t you know it’s always the coaches fault? It’s the coaches fault that we miss tackles. It’s the coaches fault that Gilbert missed that FG. It’s the coaches fault that JA struggled.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Brian Kelly. His fake accent should be perfected by now.

Lmao troll

 

[Carl Pickens]

It was a kicker. That was the difference.

No…. It was not. The difference was the mashed potatoes on defense that couldn’t do anything right. Illinois moved the ball at will

 

[CPVOL]

Yeah

 

[jtdavis]

Coaching...they are responsible for picking the talent.

THIS 1000%!

 

[CAVPUT]

for all you folks fired up about getting rid of Heupel who are you gonna get?

At this point, I'm not sure I care. Can't be any worse. This is starting to feel like the Dooley years.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I don't disagree about needing both, but the question is valid IMO. I see us as lacking both coaching and talent. Suppose one could argue that the coaching staff assembled this limited roster so ultimately they're responsible for that, too.

The question isn’t valid. Everyone knows we need better talent and better coaching. The coaches aren’t responsible for poor execution.

 

[MurphyVol]

Heupel is as average as they come. If you think he has what it takes to win anything of significance at any school...you're delusional.

Yeah, Golesh was the star of this staff and we lucked into Hooker. I'm to the point that I ponder who will be on our radar to hire in 2028 and can we hold on to Brandon until someone that can develop him gets here.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

At this point, I'm not sure I care. Can't be any worse. This is starting to feel like the Dooley years.

It is what it is at this point. The game is basically ruined anyway.

 

[DaddyChad]

It’s always both.

People can say what they want but there’s players that would not have played at any other school in the conference out there starting on defense.

 

[HollowaytoSeivers]

Brian Kelly. His fake accent should be perfected by now.

Aww, Hell No!

 

[Boston Vol]

SC coaching needs revamping.

This is 100% correct. And to be honest, strength and conditioning has been a blight on this program ever since John Stucky had to resign almost 25 years ago. Tennessee hasn’t been the same since.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Coaching...they are responsible for picking the talent.

Coaches can’t make players play better if the players don’t want to.

 

[vavolfan6]

Tennessee is more talented than Illinois and lost anyways. Primarily coaching in my opinion

And how many opt outs did Tennessee have vs Illinois?

Sure we have more talent on paper, but Illinois was an experienced team with top 10 expectations coming into the season. And they only had 3 or so opt outs.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Someone should ask the OP if he would like to have Fulmer back. That's a no, Vikki.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

This is 100% correct. And to be honest, strength and conditioning has been a blight on this program ever since John Stucky had to resign almost 25 years ago. Tennessee hasn’t been the same since.

2015 Dave Lawson had this program in a great spot S&C wise. Of course then Botch had to fire him.