Chryst dink and dunk qb

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DaUndergroundMan said:
Yep unfortunately those "accounts" don't include anyone that matters.

The "accounts" in the the black for Guarantano are known fanboys.

i.e. Swain and k-town king.

In other words the founding members of the Guarantano fan club. President and also a client.

Because they must be one and the same.

If you have a mens bathroom, i'm betting that one stall woukd provide all the relief you need for those two entities.

One fly, one shake. And if by chance I'm wrong....

Welll.....One stall would still get it done.
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I see the 12 year olds post late at night. :lol:
 
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TennMan101 said:
Sorry d87, but I agree with fade on this one. From most accounts, Guarantano has done nothing but improve throughout the offseason and spring. Cryst couldn't hold the starting position at a run first Stanford, how's he going to fair in the SEC? Maybe he surprises us all and is phenomenal, I just don't see it, though.
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Dude..You do know Stanford is better than Tennessee right? One team finished in the top 25 and went to a bowl game, another team was the worst team in school history. You think JG is going to "fare well in the SEC"?? :eek:lol:
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Dude..You do know Stanford is better than Tennessee right? One team finished in the top 25 and went to a bowl game, another team was the worst team in school history. You think JG is going to "fare well in the SEC"?? :eek:lol:
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And with a GOOD TEAM he never excelled and couldn’t hold off a high school freshman. How much more would he have sucked on a bad team? :w00t:
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Dude..You do know Stanford is better than Tennessee right? One team finished in the top 25 and went to a bowl game, another team was the worst team in school history. You think JG is going to "fare well in the SEC"?? :eek:lol:
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Chryst made that same team lose to San Diego State with his poor play.

9/20 72 yards otd 2ints.

Only 200 yard game came against Rice.

Replaced at qb after completing 48.5% and leading the team to 15 whole points vs 1-11 Oregon State. Then he never saw the field again.

Sounds like a SEC qb to me. :blink:

But you think he will "fare well in the SEC?" :crazy::crazy::eek:lol::eek:lol::thud::thud:
 
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k-town_king said:
Chryst made that same team lose to San Diego State with his poor play.

9/20 72 yards otd 2ints.

Only 200 yard game came against Rice.

Replaced at qb after completing 48.5% and leading the team to 15 whole points vs 1-11 Oregon State. Then he never saw the field again.

Sounds like a SEC qb to me. :blink:

But you think he will "fare well in the SEC?" :crazy::crazy::eek:lol::eek:lol::thud::thud:
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I suppose these stats are indicative of a QB who will "fare well in the SEC" as well right? Per your logic.
 

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cHiZzLeVOL said:
I suppose these stats are indicative of a QB who will "fare well in the SEC" as well right? Per your logic.
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Yea. When those are for six starts. He has already had good games vs SEC teams. He has already "fared well in the SEC." I recall the UK, Vandy, and LSU games being against SEC teams.

JG has as many career 200 yard games Vs SEC teams as Chryst has period.

So . . .
 
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k-town_king said:
Yea. When those are for six starts. He has already had good games vs SEC teams. He has already "fared well in the SEC." I recall the UK, Vandy, and LSU games being against SEC teams.

JG has as many career 200 yard games Vs SEC teams as Chryst has period.

So . . .
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Jeez man, lol, do you like any other QBs other than JG? I haven't heard you say anything positive about any of our other QBs.

Edit: I've said good things and bad things about each of our QBs. Just for your perspective.
 
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k-town_king said:
Yea. When those are for six starts. He has already had good games vs SEC teams. He has already "fared well in the SEC." I recall the UK, Vandy, and LSU games being against SEC teams.

JG has as many career 200 yard games Vs SEC teams as Chryst has period.

So . . .
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Btw here are Chrysts stats just for your reference as well. Since you are a stats guy.
 

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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Jeez man, lol, do you like any other QBs other than JG? I haven't heard you say anything positive about any of our other QBs.

Edit: I've said good things and bad things about each of our QBs. Just for your perspective.
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I like the commit a lot.

Chryst has a big arm and is mobile for his size. He isn't accurate and isn't our best option though.

Shrout is an inaccurate turnover machine right now. Potential for sure but he is years away from playing. In fact he has probably already been recruited over.

McBride doesn't look like a SEC qb.

Nothing personal. Just facts and opinions based on the facts.

We don't have great qbs. That is why we got Chryst and Shrout to add depth. They were the best available that wanted to come here. Now we are recruiting some good prospects.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Btw here are Chrysts stats just for your reference as well. Since you are a stats guy.
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I know. That is why I don't think he will play. Inaccurate while completing dink and dunk throws. Never hit 1000 yards in three years. Never completed 56.7% or more. Never completed 6.8 or more ypa. :disappointed::sick:
 
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k-town_king said:
I like the commit a lot.

Chryst has a big arm and is mobile for his size. He isn't accurate and isn't our best option though.

Shrout is an inaccurate turnover machine right now. Potential for sure but he is years away from playing. In fact he has probably already been recruited over.

McBride doesn't look like a SEC qb.

Nothing personal. Just facts and opinions based on the facts.

We don't have great qbs. That is why we got Chryst and Shrout to add depth. They were the best available that wanted to come here. Now we are recruiting some good prospects.
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So you like the new guy who just committed (Maurer) yet you say that Shrout has turnover issues?

Maurer has played 2yrs straight with a total of 19 games and has 30 TDs and 23 INTs.

What's the difference in Shrout? Shrout only played one full season as a starter.

I'm just playing devil's advocate since you say Shrout needs years before he plays, what about Maurer when he gets here will he need years before he plays since they have essentially the same turnover ratio?
 
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k-town_king said:
I like the commit a lot.

Chryst has a big arm and is mobile for his size. He isn't accurate and isn't our best option though.

Shrout is an inaccurate turnover machine right now. Potential for sure but he is years away from playing. In fact he has probably already been recruited over.

McBride doesn't look like a SEC qb.

Nothing personal. Just facts and opinions based on the facts.

We don't have great qbs. That is why we got Chryst and Shrout to add depth. They were the best available that wanted to come here. Now we are recruiting some good prospects.
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I can appreciate these opinions. Thank you. It's the most I've seen from you and is refreshing. I do appreciate most of your analysis and opinions btw don't want you to think I despise or hate you lol. I just like debating.
 
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JG has better stats and hopefully is an improved version of last season. The OL sucked last season still he completed 62 percent. He took way to many sacks and failed to keep drives alive by holding the ball way to long. Throw it away and play the next down when the OL break down.
His key to success is the OL and what the current coaches have been able to teach him since they've been here. He has a terrific arm, only average speed, and way below par mental understanding of his position. That is where all the improvement has to come.
 
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Just based on what little I've personally seen of Chryst… "dink and dunk" doesn't seem accurate.

However, the last time we complained about a "dink and dunk" O and QB... Ainge led UT to the SEC CG. That was the last time, right?
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
So you like the new guy who just committed (Maurer) yet you say that Shrout has turnover issues?

Maurer has played 2yrs straight with a total of 19 games and has 30 TDs and 23 INTs.

What's the difference in Shrout? Shrout only played one full season as a starter.

I'm just playing devil's advocate since you say Shrout needs years before he plays, what about Maurer when he gets here will he need years before he plays since they have essentially the same turnover ratio?
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Shrout threw 25/26 in one year though on 51% passing. That is a red flag to me.

Mauer has a way more impressive offer list too. That holds a lot of weight in my eyes.

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That completion percentage tho. :yuck:
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A huge red flag to me.
 
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If you don't think about it too deep it seems pretty silly.

JG is the future at QB unless they recruit someone who is better.

Why do you bring in a grad student with one year of eligibility from a completely different conference to learn a brand new system?

It seems to me like Chryst is nothing more than insurance in case JG turns out to be a complete disaster OR he gets badly injured and The staff has no faith at all in the other qbs on the team.

If Chryst is the starter from the beginning this year in my opinion that is a bad bad bad sign for the future. We'd need to recruit some more qbs
 
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Volfan2012 said:
JG has better stats and hopefully is an improved version of last season. The OL sucked last season still he completed 62 percent. He took way to many sacks and failed to keep drives alive by holding the ball way to long. Throw it away and play the next down when the OL break down.
His key to success is the OL and what the current coaches have been able to teach him since they've been here. He has a terrific arm, only average speed, and way below par mental understanding of his position. That is where all the improvement has to come.
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Lol. JG stats are terrible. What alternate universe did you see JG play in where he has good stats? The Vanderbilt QB had better stats in the month of September than JG had ALL YEAR. Vanderbilt...

Pro tip: If you have a high completion percentage and only 4 touchdowns in a season with a 2:1 TD to INT ratio..you probably shouldnt be the starting QB.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Lol. JG stats are terrible. What alternate universe did you see JG play in where he has good stats? The Vanderbilt QB had better stats in the month of September than JG had ALL YEAR. Vanderbilt...

Pro tip: If you have a high completion percentage and only 4 touchdowns in a season with a 2:1 TD to INT ratio..you probably shouldnt be the starting QB.
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UK was probably his best game. He threw the ba well for the most part that game. He still took too many negative plays, though. Had a really bad intentional grounding. Ran out of bounds for a 4 yard loss when he should’ve thrown the ball away at one point too.

Still though, accuracy wasn’t JG’s issue last year. He’s got a better arm than Chryst and McBride. What he absolutely has to improve on if he wants to be the starter is getting rid of the ball more quickly, pocket presence, knowing when to throw the ball away vs when to run, etc. It still remains to be seen if he’ll be able to improve all of that. But if he does, he’ll beat Chryst. If he doesn’t, Chryst will be the guy. His arm isn’t the best, but he knows how to manage a game and won’t kill drives by taking unnecessary sacks or not throwing the ball away at least.
 
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Given how bad the o line was last year, a dink and dunk passing game may be the best we can hope for sadly. JG's biggest issue last year was holding the ball to long and not throwing the ball away behind tissue paper protection. I have a hard time criticizing him for much else with the protection he had. If he can fix that issue and get the ball out faster, I think he starts. If not Chryst is probably the starter. Our o line is likely to be bad again. Even if CJP is the coach we all hope he is, serviceable is the best we can realistically hope for. Getting the ball out quick will be a must no matter who becomes QB1. I honestly don't care who it is, I just hope someone wins the job outright quickly.
 
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