Butch Jones, the Intern...

#101
#101
OnlyGodForgives said:
Logical rebuttal but the question remains, why are our recent coaching searches such abortions? Let's not get revisionist and say they were not that bad. Bad Ad's? Fulmer just inherited a list from Currie and started going down it until someone said yes. Hopefully this method ends up being just the ticket for success.
Click to expand...

Fulmer didn’t inherit ish from Currie. He took his time, reset the entire search, took his time and got his man. Pruitt, Tucker and Steele were nowhere to be found on Currie’s “list”.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#102
#102
Maybe I'm wrong, but, I almost think this is a slap in the face of UT football. I mean, we all know where and what Jones came from. So, it might be that he never truly grasped the SEC culture. To be expelled as a head coach and taking an interim job as an intern is understandable. I guess it is done all the time. But to take a lowly interim job with an historical deep, deep, rival. Well, this smacks of revenge. Probably more a slap to the face of the fans than anyone. Maybe Butch learned enough about SEC culture to give to give us the finger, in one of those passive-aggressive yankee ways.
 
#103
#103
TennesseeTarheel said:
Maybe I'm wrong, but, I almost think this is a slap in the face of UT football. I mean, we all know where and what Jones came from. So, it might be that he never truly grasped the SEC culture. To be expelled as a head coach and taking an interim job as an intern is understandable. I guess it is done all the time. But to take a lowly interim job with an historical deep, deep, rival. Well, this smacks of revenge. Probably more a slap to the face of the fans than anyone. Maybe Butch learned enough about SEC culture to give to give us the finger, in one of those passive-aggressive yankee ways.
Click to expand...

you're reading too much in to it.

a) he didn't have any real offers to be a head coach anywhere (was rumored to be taking an unpaid position at Knoxville Catholic)
b) there's probably some truth to the fact that Sexton brokered a deal with Saban to get Jones a paycheck so there would be no failure to mitigate clause exercised against his client, while also ensuring that the new job wouldn't eat in to the buyout money too much.

past that, it's just sad and funny. #nopride

the only thing this does for our program is provide more evidence that we've been doing this football thing wrong for a long time.

and, since Nov. 26th, steps have been taken to rectify those mistakes, so hopefully they work.:thumbsup:
 
#104
#104
jakez4ut said:
you're reading too much in to it.

a) he didn't have any real offers to be a head coach anywhere (was rumored to be taking an unpaid position at Knoxville Catholic)
b) there's probably some truth to the fact that Sexton brokered a deal with Saban to get Jones a paycheck so there would be no failure to mitigate clause exercised against his client, while also ensuring that the new job wouldn't eat in to the buyout money too much.

past that, it's just sad and funny. #nopride

the only thing this does for our program is provide more evidence that we've been doing this football thing wrong for a long time.

and, since Nov. 26th, steps have been taken to rectify those mistakes, so hopefully they work.:thumbsup:
Click to expand...

O.K.. I'll buy that. It's a better way to look at it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#106
#106
TennesseeTarheel said:
Maybe I'm wrong, but, I almost think this is a slap in the face of UT football. I mean, we all know where and what Jones came from. So, it might be that he never truly grasped the SEC culture. To be expelled as a head coach and taking an interim job as an intern is understandable. I guess it is done all the time. But to take a lowly interim job with an historical deep, deep, rival. Well, this smacks of revenge. Probably more a slap to the face of the fans than anyone. Maybe Butch learned enough about SEC culture to give to give us the finger, in one of those passive-aggressive yankee ways.
Click to expand...

You may be right about it being revenge. But there shouldn't be whining from Vols fans about it. Given the constant and on-going putdowns of Butch, why shouldn't he stick a knife in his haters and twist it? Kick and beat a dog enough and it will bite you. You end up getting what you give. Even the Good Book says so.
 
Last edited:
#107
#107
WoodsmanVol said:
You may be right about it being revenge. But there shouldn't be whining from Vols fans about it. Given the constant and on-going putdowns of Butch, why shouldn't he stick a knife in his haters and twist it? Kick and beat a dog enough and it will bite you. You end up getting what you give. Even the Good Book says so.
Click to expand...

him being an intern at Bama does nothing for/to me. if that's the best he's got for revenge, then it's no wonder he lost virtually every big game he coached in.

bottom line, if revenge is a motivating factor for him...he needs to try harder.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#108
#108
TennesseeTarheel said:
Maybe I'm wrong, but, I almost think this is a slap in the face of UT football. I mean, we all know where and what Jones came from. So, it might be that he never truly grasped the SEC culture. To be expelled as a head coach and taking an interim job as an intern is understandable. I guess it is done all the time. But to take a lowly interim job with an historical deep, deep, rival. Well, this smacks of revenge. Probably more a slap to the face of the fans than anyone. Maybe Butch learned enough about SEC culture to give to give us the finger, in one of those passive-aggressive yankee ways.
Click to expand...

Coaches is a profession. The sooner you recognize that the better you will be. Look at the folks leaving Bama to come work at Tennessee in basically the same roles.

There is loyalty only to the school they are currently at and maybe a little towards their alma mater.
 
#109
#109
WoodsmanVol said:
You may be right about it being revenge. But there shouldn't be whining from Vols fans about it. Given the constant and on-going putdowns of Butch, why shouldn't he stick a knife in his haters and twist it? Kick and beat a dog enough and it will bite you. You end up getting what you give. Even the Good Book says so.
Click to expand...

You are making too much of this. This is more than likely him taking a position to keep himself active at the college level. And intern or not - being associated with Alabama football and Saban will look good on the resume.

When the coaching carousel starts next year there will be different coaches to slam and he can build on this to get back in the mix for jobs be them coordinator or head coaching positions.
 
#110
#110
jakez4ut said:
him being an intern at Bama does nothing for/to me. if that's the best he's got for revenge, then it's no wonder he lost virtually every big game he coached in.

bottom line, if revenge is a motivating factor for him...he needs to try harder.
Click to expand...

Then why do you keep Butch harping?
[you tube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykuf11YkmHo[/you tube]
 
Last edited:
#113
#113
volfan102455 said:
It would depend upon how bad he did not work out. Tennessee has become career suicide for head coaches.

There is a reason why no big name HC would take the job and it is not just about the money.
Click to expand...

Yeah UT has hired coaches on the fast track to the top only for them to not be good here. Lol
 
#115
#115
TennesseeTarheel said:
Maybe I'm wrong, but, I almost think this is a slap in the face of UT football. I mean, we all know where and what Jones came from. So, it might be that he never truly grasped the SEC culture. To be expelled as a head coach and taking an interim job as an intern is understandable. I guess it is done all the time. But to take a lowly interim job with an historical deep, deep, rival. Well, this smacks of revenge. Probably more a slap to the face of the fans than anyone. Maybe Butch learned enough about SEC culture to give to give us the finger, in one of those passive-aggressive yankee ways.
Click to expand...

Personally I think you are on to something. Let's face it as a coach Butch is a nimrod but he also appears to have little man disorder. He is the same guy that was going to take a staff position at Knox Catholic well I guess this is a step up for him.
 
#116
#116
I prefer to think of this as a baseball trade............. Lyle Jones to Alabama for Jeremy Pruitt and Chris Weinke.
 
#117
#117
Simply a favor to Sabans agent. Butch hopes this will propel him into another high profile job from which he can retire after he runs that program into the ground. He will have zero to do w bama football other than wearing their team gear
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#119
#119
Malivol said:
Simply a favor to Sabans agent. Butch hopes this will propel him into another high profile job from which he can retire after he runs that program into the ground. He will have zero to do w bama football other than wearing their team gear
Click to expand...

100% correct.
 
#121
#121
TennesseeTarheel said:
Maybe I'm wrong, but, I almost think this is a slap in the face of UT football. I mean, we all know where and what Jones came from. So, it might be that he never truly grasped the SEC culture. To be expelled as a head coach and taking an interim job as an intern is understandable. I guess it is done all the time. But to take a lowly interim job with an historical deep, deep, rival. Well, this smacks of revenge. Probably more a slap to the face of the fans than anyone. Maybe Butch learned enough about SEC culture to give to give us the finger, in one of those passive-aggressive yankee ways.
Click to expand...

This makes a certain amount of sense. Butch gets to thumb his nose at the UTAD and VN that rejected him and Nick gets to twist it a little deeper.
 
#123
#123
Wow....from $4.1mm annually as the head of the program at Tennessee, to $35k as an anonymous intern at Alabama....
 
#124
#124
So the article says that Butch's Bama job fulfills his duty to mitigate damages under his UT contract. I'm not so sure about that. His contract says that he has to use reasonable and diligent efforts to obtain "comparable" employment...
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
New Posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

Advertisement



Back
Top