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rexvol said:
there are rumblings that BB to the Vols is a done deal. There is a guy from TOS who seems to have solid intel and he's saying that he will be on the Hill. Let me say this, if BB commits to the Vols the sonic boom will be heard in Baton Rouge, Tuscaloser, Gainesville, and Athens.
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Amen Brother!
 
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Wheaton, did you come to the Florida game last year? I met some cool Ducks and Beavers at our tailgate, can't remember if that was you or not...??

side note, lol at Oregon's team names... :p
 
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aaronvol said:
You're a funny guy. I appreciate your humor...seriosuly I do. i think you are hearing me incorrectly. Maybe this will help.

First I never said Shannon is a racist...I am speaking particularly to the terms people on this board are using to describe BB.

When a black player makes a great play he is athletic, a white player makes the same play he is smart and a hard-worker. When a white player gets help it is a mentor, when a black player doe sthe same thing, some on this sight are calling him a pimp. When a white player is interviewed and makes sense we say that guy is smart, when a black player does the same thing, we call him articulate. That is all i am saying...we need to be sure that we don't make any accusations about BB unless we know him. Living in Wichita I hear amazing things about the kid and his family. I am only referring to those in the crowd who have made statements that are not true about BB. so...

on a side note...this morning the news here in wichita is that shannon is pulling the scholarship because he is trying to save face. If BB wants to go to Miami...shannon will take him in a heartbeat. They feel like he isn't coming there and are trying to keep their image intact.
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Well-stated! Thank you.

The points you made about BB's parents, and especially his father, were extremely meaningful to me.

So, what do you think about Butler? I didn't know you were a minister, and didn't know you were in Kansas, or I would have asked. You probably know him. Rex is in Texas, I think. Sorry.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
He would be wise to be more cautious selecting his words considering these guys he is dogging may be his future teammates. I don't care when it was said or why it was said, you don't dog your teammates in the press like that. I never thought the rumors about him being all about himself were true until I read that. And he dogged Miami's offense too. His recruiting adviser needs to better advise him on WTF to say and what not to.

I haven't thought he was coming here for awhile so this isn't sour grapes on my part - I don't roll like that anyway - I'm just making an observation. I've taken up for him on here in the past, but I won't be doing it anymore. If Shannon doesn't re-extend a scholly, he will be elevated a notch in my eyes.
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Sab, you are very good at identifying the players for recruiting and getting the inside stuff. I think you are over the top on this one for some reason.

This statement was made almost 3 weeks before his visit and I honestly think he was using the process for the players and coaches to prove him different. It may have worked. Leaders challenge and I think he was challenging the players and staff to prove him wrong.

This kid is not stupid and he made that statement knowing it might bite him in the butt, but at least he had the confidence in his ability to make it. We are the ones that bring up this every time. He has made 5 positive statements about UTK since his visit and we seem to be focused on the one statement he made prior to the visit.
 
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rexvol said:
there are rumblings that BB to the Vols is a done deal. There is a guy from TOS who seems to have solid intel and he's saying that he will be on the Hill. Let me say this, if BB commits to the Vols the sonic boom will be heard in Baton Rouge, Tuscaloser, Gainesville, and Athens.
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Your right Rex but the sonic booms will be more along the lines of "How is UT suddenly getting these great players" and "UT must be cheating to land Brown" and when will UT be on probation and Brown is overrated and crap like that...Don't expect credit from anybody if We land him...I won't lie, I will be one happy VOL fan if We get this guy, He is one of those talents that only comes around every once in awhile.
 
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aaronvol said:
BB is as straight laced as they come.I can assure you all (I know two of his family members, and some friend he grew up with)...I have no reason to lie about this. The kid is a 30 year old maturity wise and is trying to be as cautious in this decision as possible. please get off the kid's back. he is a great kid, a great football player, and would do the university proud. he wont pull any gerald jones, josh mcneil, tony robinson, leonard little, lamarcus coker, james banks, dwayne goodrich, jamal lewis, travis henry crap. we are talking tee martin, peyton manning, al wilson, jeff hall, will bartholomew kind of kid here character wise. sheez.
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I'm not sure I'd put all those guys in the 'bad boys' list, but if I were recounting 'role models' from UT football history for BB, I wouldn't leave Reggie White out and I'd add Eric Berry as his destiny is undeniable.
 
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utmba93 said:
Well-stated! Thank you.

The points you made about BB's parents, and especially his father, were extremely meaningful to me.

So, what do you think about Butler? I didn't know you were a minister, and didn't know you were in Kansas, or I would have asked. You probably know him. Rex is in Texas, I think. Sorry.
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No...ha I don't know him (Butler). I have met BB, know some of his realtives and his friends. All anyone has to say about him is that he is an incredible young man.

I don't know if you are familiar with the comments about the coach at East High. That was a pretty big deal here...I watched East play this year several times. The coach abslutely had no concept of how to use BB. He never received one pass in the flat, usually up the middle stuff, and very under utilized. I think Butler is a voice for a kid who needs one in that particular area. If I was BB I wouldn't want my coach handling my recruiting or being a go to guy for information on me. I think Butler fills that void in a good way.
 
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aaronvol said:
No...ha I don't know him (Butler). I have met BB, know some of his realtives and his friends. All anyone has to say about him is that he is an incredible young man.

I don't know if you are familiar with the comments about the coach at East High. That was a pretty big deal here...I watched East play this year several times. The coach abslutely had no concept of how to use BB. He never received one pass in the flat, usually up the middle stuff, and very under utilized. I think Butler is a voice for a kid who needs one in that particular area. If I was BB I wouldn't want my coach handling my recruiting or being a go to guy for information on me. I think Butler fills that void in a good way.
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Yes, I read the comments/ quotes from his High School coach and thought I had read a retort from Butler among those articles. Butler didn't offer as plausible of an explanation as you as I recall... only saying something along the lines of he didn't understand why the coach made those comments.

Of course, Butler's responses may have been edited by the reporter or he may have players he's working with on that same team. I'm sure he has to consider his relationship with these coaches and how best to manage that as well.

His HS coach certainly didn't say anything in what I've read that would make me trust him with managing this decision-making process if I were BB. It was obvious they don't have the kind of relationship a player needs with his coach for that sort of advice.
 
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Agreed. Reggie White would be at the top of the list.

utmba93 said:
I'm not sure I'd put all those guys in the 'bad boys' list, but if I were recounting 'role models' from UT football history for BB, I wouldn't leave Reggie White out and I'd add Eric Berry as his destiny is undeniable.
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utmba93 said:
Yes, I read the comments/ quotes from his High School coach and thought I had read a retort from Butler among those articles. Butler didn't offer as plausible of an explanation as you as I recall... only saying something along the lines of he didn't understand why the coach made those comments.

Of course, Butler's responses may have been edited by the reporter or he may have players he's working with on that same team. I'm sure he has to consider his relationship with these coaches and how best to manage that as well.

His HS coach certainly didn't say anything in what I've read that would make me trust him with managing this decision-making process if I were BB. It was obvious they don't have the kind of relationship a player needs with his coach for that sort of advice.
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Indeed.
 
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aaronvol, you seem to have some good information on BB. Most of the words refering to Butler like Pimp and Agent have come from TV and Radio too. I feel like he is making this recruiting cycle about HIM rather than the kid. Again, just my perception. I feel like this guy is promoting himself, and his camps. Some will say that there isnt anything wrong with it, and on the surface I would agree. However, he is in-fact acting as an agent and I have to question his motives.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
I never argued that 2008 is all that matters. I see it the opposite way. I'm pointing out that nobody is really in a position to be calling Oregon an "average" anything after 2008 no matter what the history is. The people you refer to are acting like UT just came off of winning a national championship and Oregon had a losing season.

However, although I have not said 2008 is "all that matters", I will insist that, to recruits, history (beyond relevant coaches and players) does not (or should not) matter. At least not the way that it has been bandied about here.

To illustrate my point, answer this: how many of you are fans of UT because of their historical win/loss record or trophies? In other words, did you just decide one day that you needed to pick a college team to follow and you then analyzed the history books and decided to hedge your bets that UT might some day become the most winning team in history? I would venture to suggest that most have more substantial reasons for being a UT fan (going to the school, having family that went there, living there, etc.). If history is really what matters most to you, why aren't you all fans of whichever team has the most NC's?

Same applies to recruits. Past accolades do nothing for a recruit in the current situation. Neither do the accolades of teams in the same conference. That is simply due to the fact that every team in the entire NCAA, no matter how many wins or NC's they have, have had off years, off classes and stretches of bad years. Just because the odds are that boosters and fan bases will keep crying until a program gets fixed (because it used to be good) doesn't mean that a recruit should waste their 4-5 years there for the sake of history.



Yep. Wasn't the best season. Oklahoma probably thought it was a scrimmage.
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The last sentence of the first thing I said ("When a team has been good for almost its entire history and has won multiple national championships (Tennessee), a recruit is much more likely to lend that school credibility as opposed to somewhere like Oregon that will only be in the national championship hunt for one year out of about ten when everything falls into place.") was my main point. Teams that have been good throughout history have more credibility. For instance, though Texas Tech may have been ranked higher than Georgia this season, and Missouri higher than LSU, they are seen as not necessarily one-year wonders but teams that will only be in the championship hunt once in a long while. History shows that teams like Tennessee and Georgia and LSU are capable of getting really good and staying there for an extended period of time.
 
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And though Oregon is more consistently good than Texas Tech and Missouri, they have never won a championship and are considered my many to be in that first group I mentioned. In that respect, history does matter.
 
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rexvol said:
there are rumblings that BB to the Vols is a done deal. There is a guy from TOS who seems to have solid intel and he's saying that he will be on the Hill. Let me say this, if BB commits to the Vols the sonic boom will be heard in Baton Rouge, Tuscaloser, Gainesville, and Athens.
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This is the best news I have heard from you yet!
 
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rexvol said:
there are rumblings that BB to the Vols is a done deal. There is a guy from TOS who seems to have solid intel and he's saying that he will be on the Hill. Let me say this, if BB commits to the Vols the sonic boom will be heard in Baton Rouge, Tuscaloser, Gainesville, and Athens.
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I hope this is true! :dance2:
 
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aaronvol said:
if he was a white farm kid you wouldnt have called the guy a pimp.
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Yes I would. Agent for a high school recruit = pimp. Your veiled racism accusations are ridiculous considering you don't know me; that may work in Kansas but not in my neck of the woods.

I hope BB ultimately picks the Vols, but regardless he is being pimped and playing the publicity game.
 
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SCSmokey said:
Yes I would. Agent for a high school recruit = pimp. Your veiled racism accusations are ridiculous considering you don't know me; that may work in Kansas but not in my neck of the woods.

I hope BB ultimately picks the Vols, but regardless he is being pimped and playing the publicity game.
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i am from knoxville...lived in wichita for about a year and a half. so maybe we are from the same neck of the woods. i am not trying to call anyone here a racist...i just think we would be hearing different accusations. peace to you.
 
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