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Question, is the price on places like car gurus the bottom dollar or are the dealerships being represented still willing to negotiate?
 
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goldenvol said:
Question, is the price on places like car gurus the bottom dollar or are the dealerships being represented still willing to negotiate?
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Depends on the situation. The nice thing about car gurus is that it gives you information about how long the car has been on the lot and how good of a deal it is. It will also tell you if that particular model is a slow seller, which may give you more leverage to negotiate.

So if you see a car that has been on there for over 90 days, and is listed as a great deal, there is a strong chance that they have marked down that car to get it sold. You may be able to get a few more bucks out of them, but they are likely bottomed out.

This would go out the window though if the car has some issues.
 
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goldenvol said:
Question, is the price on places like car gurus the bottom dollar or are the dealerships being represented still willing to negotiate?
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Always, always, always negotiate.

Walk away a couple of days and come back below their offer.

Never, ever, never tell them you have a trade-in. Get a U-Write-It loan from the credit union and don't tell them you have that.

Bargain ONLY on the price of car you want to buy. Nothing else, not trade-in, not financing. And you ARE NOT dealing with the lot salesman, or generally even the "sales" manager. You ARE dealing with the F&I, store manager, or whatever they call it now, guy in a back room. Different brands have different names for the position. I know this because I have worked in a small architectural office between engineering jobs and he designed lots (proly 20 or more) car dealerships. Always have that guys office.

You haven't even started dealing until your salesman get up out of his chair and tells you he has to go check if he can cut you a better deal because he "likes" you and want to get the manager to come down.
Do that at least twice.
Leave, call back next day and offer a few hundred less. Right there you're getting what they will or will not sell for.

Sell your old one on CarGuru or etc. as a private seller. You'll get a better deal
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
Always, always, always negotiate.

Walk away a couple of days and come back below their offer.

Never, ever, never tell them you have a trade-in. Get a U-Write-It loan from the credit union and don't tell them you have that.

Bargain ONLY on the price of car you want to buy. Nothing else, not trade-in, not financing. And you ARE NOT dealing with the lot salesman, or generally even the "sales" manager. You ARE dealing with the F&I, store manager, or whatever they call it now, guy in a back room. Different brands have different names for the position. I know this because I have worked in a small architectural office between engineering jobs and he designed lots (proly 20 or more) car dealerships. Always have that guys office.

You haven't even started dealing until your salesman get up out of his chair and tells you he has to go check if he can cut you a better deal because he "likes" you and want to get the manager to come down.
Do that at least twice.
Leave, call back next day and offer a few hundred less. Right there you're getting what they will or will not sell for.

Sell your old one on CarGuru or etc. as a private seller. You'll get a better deal
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This was my plan, but I wasn't sure if I was being un-reasonable since the cars I'm looking at were listed as great deals.

I'm not a negotiator. I don't like to haggle. I know where I want to be on my monthly payment and I won't deviate from my plan. I don't care to leave since I go in with the mindset that the dealer will not get down to my price anyways. So, if he goes back to the "manager" and we can't get to my price then I walk. I'm not in a desperate need so I will take my time and be picky. I don't like impulse buying because your wants usually cause you to spend more than you set out too.
 
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GreatWhiteNorth said:
It's a place I'm temporarily renting in Knoxville. I'd love to store a bunch of cars in it.
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In the back of my head I've had an idea for a fractional ownership (of some sorts) or shared car club.

Rent a warehouse, all members either buy in or contribute a car to the pool and then the members have access to the entire stable on some type of scheduling system.

Haven't figured out the insurance angle among other things but it would be a nice way to dabble across many desirable vehicles without owning them all.
 
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volinbham said:
I have one coming off lease in just over a year - I got side swiped so it had driver side doors replaced and as a result BMW may want to make someone a deal on it when I turn it in.

If someone planned to keep it a while it would be a good deal. Will probably only have 20K miles when I return it.
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That's not how it works.
 
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volinbham said:
In the back of my head I've had an idea for a fractional ownership (of some sorts) or shared car club.

Rent a warehouse, all members either buy in or contribute a car to the pool and then the members have access to the entire stable on some type of scheduling system.

Haven't figured out the insurance angle among other things but it would be a nice way to dabble across many desirable vehicles without owning them all.
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Dude I've actually thought about this as well. Me and my Dad are thinking about going in halves on a Skyline R35 GTR. I've got a baby due in May and I'm about to buy a new house, but after all that I think me and pops might go in on something.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
Always, always, always negotiate.

Walk away a couple of days and come back below their offer.

Never, ever, never tell them you have a trade-in. Get a U-Write-It loan from the credit union and don't tell them you have that.

Bargain ONLY on the price of car you want to buy. Nothing else, not trade-in, not financing. And you ARE NOT dealing with the lot salesman, or generally even the "sales" manager. You ARE dealing with the F&I, store manager, or whatever they call it now, guy in a back room. Different brands have different names for the position. I know this because I have worked in a small architectural office between engineering jobs and he designed lots (proly 20 or more) car dealerships. Always have that guys office.

You haven't even started dealing until your salesman get up out of his chair and tells you he has to go check if he can cut you a better deal because he "likes" you and want to get the manager to come down.
Do that at least twice.
Leave, call back next day and offer a few hundred less. Right there you're getting what they will or will not sell for.

Sell your old one on CarGuru or etc. as a private seller. You'll get a better deal
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Horrible advice.
All you are doing is starting off as an adversary.
Much better and more pleasant ways to accomplish what you want.
 
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I found mine on car gurus.

The mileage was right and the price was right. I didn't even talk to them about coming off the number they were at. I drove it on a Friday, coached a game on Saturday morning and bought it Saturday evening.

I don't like all the bargaining and negotiating and was resolved not to do it unless I absolutely had to, so I didnt.

I was more upset about how much my insurance was when I found out about that lol.
 
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wildnkrazykat said:
I found mine on car gurus.

The mileage was right and the price was right. I didn't even talk to them about coming off the number they were at. I drove it on a Friday, coached a game on Saturday morning and bought it Saturday evening.

I don't like all the bargaining and negotiating and was resolved not to do it unless I absolutely had to, so I didnt.

I was more upset about how much my insurance was when I found out about that lol.
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The internet helps shorten the process. You can see which cars are value priced and which are holding a higher margin.
You're happy, and that's what matters.
 
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I've been collecting old F1 and other racing photos/posters (Internet pictures; not the real thing). Came across this awesome shot of Dan Gurney in the Eagle at Spa Francorchamps
 

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Spent the evening under the car. I remember why I stopped doing a lot of work on the car.
 

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Put this in the Best Buy thread but figured the people who might be interested were here. Came across this beaut. Bonus, my Ridgeline is in the background :)

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMbkbRZCOVY[/youtube]
 
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Sorry I missed your earlier question. I quite like the camaro. Nice car, fun to drive, poor visibility.

Fun car!
 
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