Any better than Dooley?

you do not comprehend that losing more games than he has won constitutes being a loser in his SEC tenure, and you deign to call someone else ignorant?

i just looked up ignorant in the dictionary and sure enough, there is your photo.

Let's check the record after year #2 then again after year #3.
 
Let's check the record after year #2 then again after year #3.

again, you are talking about what MIGHT happen, somewhere over the rainbow. i hope you are right. so does toto.

right now, today, CBJ is a loser in the SEC. just like CDD was.
 
you do not comprehend that losing more games than he has won constitutes being a loser in his SEC tenure, and you deign to call someone else ignorant?

i just looked up ignorant in the dictionary and sure enough, there is your photo.

You might as well have said, "I know you are but what am I?"

The ignorance I was referring to for you is your football acumen. Then again, not surprised that went over your head.
 
We are 2 and O next year going into the 3 game road run. With a healthy QB and another year of growth we will be ready to play. To say arky state is going to be trouble is just being silly. We lost to Vandy yesterday. A pretty good Vandy. Not the 2 wins a year vandy of five years ago.

Edit: you act like we've never beaten Fla.

Have we? 6-22 the last 28 games. 0-9 the last 9. They did everything they could possibly do to give us the game this year and despite that and a well below average backup QB, they absolutely dominated the game.

They're gonna be 4-8 just like us and one of their wins, in one of the worst seasons in their school's history is against UT. Please excuse me if I'm jaded enough to recognize that we're not gonna beat Florida next year or anytime in the near future.... not happening.
 
again, you are talking about what MIGHT happen, somewhere over the rainbow. i hope you are right. so does toto.

right now, today, CBJ is a loser in the SEC. just like CDD was.

My thoughts are what should happen with an average sec coach
I haven't decided what I think of CBJ. I'm saying that grading him on CDDs players is unfair. I will have a opinion after next year though.
 
Have we? 6-22 the last 28 games. 0-9 the last 9. They did everything they could possibly do to give us the game this year and despite that and a well below average backup QB, they absolutely dominated the game.

They're gonna be 4-8 just like us and one of their wins, in one of the worst seasons in their school's history is against UT. Please excuse me if I'm jaded enough to recognize that we're not gonna beat Florida next year or anytime in the near future.... not happening.

Phil let things run down.
Lane screwed us
Dooley was just bad.
None of that is relavant in regards to Coach Butch. He's 0-1 vs Fla. That's what we have to go on.

To say that we will lose because we always do is silly.
 
To say that we will lose because we always do is silly.

"knowing" that UT will lose to UF in 2014 because UF has won 8 in a row is kind of like saying that one "knows" that CBJ will win championships at UT, because he did in lesser conferences.

uh-oh
 
It's time for this staff to move on and we need a fresh start. It's so obvious that he is a Mac level coach. Can't hack it in the SEC.

Funny... I started a thread a coupke months ago pertaining to us being a MAC program and it was deleted!
 
"knowing" that UT will lose to UF in 2014 because UF has won 8 in a row is kind of like saying that one "knows" that CBJ will win championships at UT, because he did in lesser conferences.

uh-oh

Apples and oranges.
Saying some one "knows" we lose to Fla because Butch lost once is not the same as saying Butch won championships at the lower level so there is a history that gives me hope.


I don't know if Coach Butch will win here. I don't even have an opinion yet.
 
I'd say it doesn't matter at this point.
Next year is the year he will be graded on.

If you grade him on next year you're gonna have to conclude he ain't got it. Next year will be similar to this year. You can't expect the incoming class to make that big of a difference. I personally have little confidence that he can win here but his classes will have to be a little more experience before we'll know for sure.
 
Cincy and UT....apples/oranges. This is big boy football and the competition is way stronger than whatever conference Cincy is in. In my opinion we must see something next year, some hint that we will be able to compete and give us 6 wins for gods sake. I really don't think that is asking too much.

You saw something this year . We almost beat Georgia and did beat SoCar...then our QB got hurt and we are starting a freshman that cant tie his own shoes. Dobbs and Fergie may end up being awesome ..but not this year . When we had Worley ..he was no Manning ..but he was serviceable and made a few plays. Now we have NO QB play and the scoreboard reflects that
 
you cannot be serious... the orange kool aid drinking started already?

Reading is fundamental.
All 3 games are winable.
We may lose 3.
We may win 2.
We may only 1.
Heck we could go 0-12 next year but that doesn't change the fact that all 3 are winable.
 
If you grade him on next year you're gonna have to conclude he ain't got it. Next year will be similar to this year. You can't expect the incoming class to make that big of a difference. I personally have little confidence that he can win here but his classes will have to be a little more experience before we'll know for sure.

He will get a 3rd year regardless.
I'm saying that we won't know enough about weather he's got it or not till after next year. You know, when he has some of his players.
 
He will get a 3rd year regardless.
I'm saying that we won't know enough about weather he's got it or not till after next year. You know, when he has some of his players.

I admire you for withholding judgement. I am trying but can't help myself from drawing some conclusions.
 
I admire you for withholding judgement. I am trying but can't help myself from drawing some conclusions.

There are some signs of hope. There are some signs of concern. Right now the incoming class makes up for the Dooley players. At this point I hope Butch is the guy but I can't say he is or is not.
I just don't know.
 
08/30/14 vs. Utah State Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
09/06/14 vs. Arkansas State Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
09/13/14 at Oklahoma Norman, Okla. TBA
09/27/14 at Georgia * Athens, Ga. TBA
10/04/14 vs. Florida * Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
10/11/14 vs. Chattanooga Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
10/18/14 at Ole Miss * Oxford, Miss. TBA
10/25/14 vs. Alabama * Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
11/01/14 at South Carolina * Columbia, S.C. TBA
11/15/14 vs. Kentucky * Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
11/22/14 vs. Missouri * Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
11/29/14 at Vanderbilt * Nashville, Tenn. TBA
I see 5 wins.
 
08/30/14 vs. Utah State Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
09/06/14 vs. Arkansas State Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
09/13/14 at Oklahoma Norman, Okla. TBA
09/27/14 at Georgia * Athens, Ga. TBA
10/04/14 vs. Florida * Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
10/11/14 vs. Chattanooga Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
10/18/14 at Ole Miss * Oxford, Miss. TBA
10/25/14 vs. Alabama * Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
11/01/14 at South Carolina * Columbia, S.C. TBA
11/15/14 vs. Kentucky * Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
11/22/14 vs. Missouri * Knoxville, Tenn. TBA
11/29/14 at Vanderbilt * Nashville, Tenn. TBA



I see 6-6 is we're lucky
 
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