Another reported assault

#377
#377
LebanonVolunteer said:
Do you know who was accused of sexual assault in this thread/story? I don't think a name was provided. How do you know it wasn't a kid signed in the last 2 years?

Riyad Jones signed in Butch's 1st class.

Tell ya what. I'll keep stirring the pot and maybe the answer will surface between the beef and the veggies.

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You can't use the principle of doubt to fuel your argument. The author of this article chose not to disclose the players name so you cannot include him for or against....As for R. Jones, he was asked to transfer from the program and he was a player signed by Butch in his first class that was thrown together with less than two months til signing day while trying to flip arguably the worst roster we've ever had. Also worth noting he hasn't seen the field in over a year. So please continue to tell me how Butch has done such a terrible job recruiting high character people into his program.

Nevermind you this team has the highest team GPA ever and has doubled the community service hours done by any team previous team in Knoxville. But hey, you keep up with your agenda.
 
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DominicLoBianco said:
You can't use the principle of doubt to fuel your argument. The author of this article chose not to disclose the players name so you cannot include him for or against....As for R. Jones, he was asked to transfer from the program and he was a player signed by Butch in his first class that was thrown together with less than two months til signing day while trying to flip arguably the worst roster we've ever had. Also worth noting he hasn't seen the field in over a year. So please continue to tell me how Butch has done such a terrible job recruiting high character people into his program.

Nevermind you this team has the highest team GPA ever and has doubled the community service done by any team ever. But hey, you keep up with your agenda.
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"None of the guys accused was signed by Butch".

Yes they were, Riyad Jones. Butch was hired on Dec. 7th, offered Jones on the 17th, and he signed with UT. The fact he had not played does not make your incorrect statement true based on MY RESEARCH.

Your agenda of calling me out, FAIL.

LOL
 
#380
#380
wmcovol said:
While not going to the police initially and even now doesn't completely destroy her case, the lack of even one witness to support her accusation does. None of her friends appear to be a witness and if she went to the party alone probably supports the witnesses that says she pursued him.
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All that, of course. I'm getting a picture of a young lady that wants to "fit in". Bringing the police down on a lot of other people would not be fitting in. I'm just suggesting it could influence her decision of not going to KPD.
 
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#381
I think if more parents took their children behind the woodshed now a day's and they would grow up a little more respectful. Knowing there are consequences isn't a bad thing.

Spare the rod and visit them in prison. No thanks.
 
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VolSteve said:
I'd say 99-100% of the VN posters in this thread would want a rapist to be severely punished if not hung. Your "fight" seems to be against evidence and due process though. Both you and Crusse 10 seem to automatically believe the alleged victim's version while convicting UT even though their has been no proof it happened as she now tells the reporter. As I said a few posts back; I have spent well over 3 decades around evil people. I have no sympathy for criminals of any type but particularly despise rapists so my "fight" today is not to support them. I have learned to value due process however as I said earlier there are many, many cases where the truth was far from the initial allegation. And no, I didn't track and maintain graphs showing percentages. Suffice to say it is not uncommon. And as many have pointed out already remember the Duke lacrosse players or the Rolling Stones case recently. Remember Tawana Brawley?
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I can't speak for CRusse10 - but for me, these reports of sexual assault have hit a tipping point:

Our players have to stop putting themselves in these situations. When AJ got in trouble, I was first in line to claim that he was innocent until proven guilty. Due Process is critically important, I understand that.

But now we have 4 sexual assault cases in a relatively short period.

That's either a successful smear job by the Gators or a really pitiful character issue with this football program. There needs to be change with the way this program handles sexual assault education and support.

I think back to when I was a student and I don't remember being educated on sexual assault in any way. If I was to get taken advantage of by a woman while on campus, I wouldn't have known what to do aside from an incognito google search.

We continue to avoid the reality that change needs to happen and this program is capable of making that change.
 
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#383
Unfortunately, it usually takes a bad incident for one to learn what "situational awareness" really means, and how important it is these days.
 
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crusse10 said:
and yet if everything in there is factually accurate and he raped her and UT didn't handle it properly and brushed it under the rug?
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What do you want to hear? If UT swept it under the rug, then anyone involved in covering it up should be fired. Hell, I'd be all for charging them as accessories to the crime. But what proof do you have that that did indeed happen? The fact that the alleged victim waited to come forward greatly hindered any investigation they could have done. Physical evidence was destroyed. All they had was witness testimony, and most likely, that was conflicting. I doubt they had mounds of actual evidence to work with.
 
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#387
If a man's name can be publicized for being accused of rape, why can't the accusers name be published? The male is going to be ripped to shreds whether it's true or not. If it's not true the female's name will be swept under the rug most of the time. Either both names released or none until proven guilty. I agree there is a feminist agenda out. Someone has to be a male victims voice.
 
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#388
A bunch of sheep. When the tailgate drops the bs stops. Have we had a player actually convicted of a crime yet? Serious ones, not the drinking charges. I say we stop feeding into this bs until something truly comes of it.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I think if more parents took their children behind the woodshed now a day's and they would grow up a little more respectful. Knowing there are consequences isn't a bad thing.

Spare the rod and visit them in prison. No thanks.
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Can I see the data on this?
 
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crusse10 said:
and yet if everything in there is factually accurate and he raped her and UT didn't handle it properly and brushed it under the rug?
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If UT didn't handle it properly then they almost certainly violated the current perversion of Title IX as interpreted by the current degenerates infesting the US Dept of Education office of civil rights (the office responsible for enforcing title ix), which means the girl could sue like so many other jackpot justice seeking false rape whiners are doing across the country.

Of course, it doesn't appear to me that she would look too favorably upon a lawsuit, in that process, and unlike any of the reporting options she has carefully selected so far, you have to actually make your claims under oath subject to perjury.

Second-right now due to the absurd title ix regulation changes made by the extremists in OCR after Obama took office, collegiate administrative hearings as it relates to sexual assault are the most favorable, stacked deck, and just plain rigged legal/administrative proceeding (in favor of the, almost always female complainant, and against the almost always male accused) that exists in any legal venue in this Country. If she couldn't prove her case in one of these kangaroo courts, where her burden of proof is the lowest that exists, she isn't subject to perjury, she isn't cross examined, the accused can't subpoena anything (like phone records, facebook messages, etc), or compel anyone to testify, etc. then it's unreasonable and irrational to consider her claims to be anything other than highly unlikely, at best.
 
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weirdfishes said:
How do we know she wasn't drugged?

It IS rape to have sex with someone who is mentally incoherent from alcohol in the state of Tennessee.

"The last thing she remembers before blacking out was taking a selfie with the football player at the party. She woke up lying face down on his dorm room bed as she was being sexually violated, the spaghetti strap of her top torn. She remembers slipping in and out of consciousness."

Tell me where the consent is?

This thread is frustrating and disappointing. Maybe it's a generational thing, I don't know.

Guys go out and drink and party and it's cool. Girls do the same thing and become targets of guys who can't keep it in their pants. Which one ends up with the blame........
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What if both parties are mentally incoherent, then who gets the blame?
 
#393
#393
Can we keep VOL Nation about the football team and less about political ramblings? Go find a FOX news blog (and a copy of Strunk and White) for that...geez.
 
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#400
This is an interesting take:

brian241 said:
If UT didn't handle it properly then they almost certainly violated the current perversion of Title IX as interpreted by the current degenerates infesting the US Dept of Education office of civil rights (the office responsible for enforcing title ix), which means the girl could sue like so many other jackpot justice seeking false rape whiners are doing across the country.

Of course, it doesn't appear to me that she would look too favorably upon a lawsuit, in that process, and unlike any of the reporting options she has carefully selected so far, you have to actually make your claims under oath subject to perjury.

Second-right now due to the absurd title ix regulation changes made by the extremists in OCR after Obama took office, collegiate administrative hearings as it relates to sexual assault are the most favorable, stacked deck, and just plain rigged legal/administrative proceeding (in favor of the, almost always female complainant, and against the almost always male accused) that exists in any legal venue in this Country. If she couldn't prove her case in one of these kangaroo courts, where her burden of proof is the lowest that exists, she isn't subject to perjury, she isn't cross examined, the accused can't subpoena anything (like phone records, facebook messages, etc), or compel anyone to testify, etc. then it's unreasonable and irrational to consider her claims to be anything other than highly unlikely, at best.
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