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#42,051
Was the Paycheck Protection Program Effective?

“But it was poorly targeted, as almost three-quarters of its benefits went to unintended recipients, including business owners, creditors and suppliers, rather than to workers. Due to differences in the typical incomes of those varied constituencies, it also ended up being quite regressive compared with other major COVID-19 relief programs, as it benefited high-income households much more.”
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Orangeslice13 said:
Exactly.
They just print more money and therefore it doesn’t cost anything.
There’s no real reason to put it on the books. Or even keep books. Just print what you need
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I would think it is just on the books now. Surely they are not printing trillions of cash, especially in a cashless environment
 
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Velo Vol said:
How else do you structure it when the point was to keep the businesses solvent?
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The goal was to keep the businesses solvent and keep employees employed by giving the businesses the money to continue paying their salaries and wages. It was always going to be regressive, as it should have been. The socialists amongst us will try to tell you that the executives' salaries should have been paid to employees in the shipping department.
 
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lawgator1 said:
False. The road was built and paid for by tax dollars.
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A few things:
1. The roads were built LONG before the shipment of gas currently on the way to the gas stations, and the roads were built for reasons other than "transportation of gas over public roads." That's a really ridiculous argument.
2. Yes. The roads were built and paid for by tax dollars - more specifically, the roads were built and paid by tax payer dollars collected from sales taxes levied on the sale of gas. As a result, even if the cost of roads were included in transportation costs (and they aren't), those costs would still be included in the cost per gallon that people pay at the gas station.
3. There is currently ZERO equivalent contribution of sales taxes from EV owners despite the fact that they use the same roads as all other drivers.
4. Within the business world, "transportation costs" don't include the cost of the underlying infrastructure. It includes the current costs of moving goods from point A to point B. As usual, you as a liberal, are trying to change the definition of commonly used terminology to fit your argument because you have no valid arguments.
 
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Vol423 said:
A few things:
1. The roads were built LONG before the shipment of gas currently on the way to the gas stations, and the roads were built for reasons other than "transportation of gas over public roads." That's a really ridiculous argument.
2. Yes. The roads were built and paid for by tax dollars - more specifically, the roads were built and paid by tax payer dollars collected from sales taxes levied on the sale of gas. As a result, even if the cost of roads were included in transportation costs (and they aren't), those costs would still be included in the cost per gallon that people pay at the gas station.
3. There is currently ZERO equivalent contribution of sales taxes from EV owners despite the fact that they use the same roads as all other drivers.
4. Within the business world, "transportation costs" don't include the cost of the underlying infrastructure. It includes the current costs of moving goods from point A to point B. As usual, you as a liberal, are trying to change the definition of commonly used terminology to fit your argument because you have no valid arguments.
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Doesn't matter the reason they were built originally. Plus they are maintained with tax dollars. Plus they are expanded with tax dollars. Plus they are patrolled with tax dollars.

You have proof they were built with gas tax dollars? That's a ridiculous assertion.

No one is claiming that the purpose of EV is to re-pay the cost of roads. The point of EV is improved efficiency.

So you lose every point you are making. In spectacularly calamitous fashion.
 
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