Alvin Kamara Appreciation Thread (merged)

[Bigorangefaninga]

And yet, we still lead the galaxy in prison population and we still have far too many civilians dying on the streets at the hands of cops for violating some lame-azzed infraction.

So, we have a drugee in our midst! thats fine you are more than welcome to go to the country in your avatar, I am sure they have the drug laws in which you seek!

And about those civilians dying in the streets by hand of cop, there are more whites killed by cops than there are blacks although blacks break the law at a higher rate per population %! So where is Kap and all those social justice warriors at on all this? I mean are they fighting for those whites also, because I have ONLY seen him mention black Americans as being oppressed and in that he would be wrong just like you!

ALSO, we do lead the world in prison population, we also besides China have a higher amount of population compared to most any other country, AS well as a higher % of prisoners in jail for you know the tiny things like being here illegally which is a crime in ANY country in the world, but yet for some reason is thought as racist when those here want to send them back until they get their ducks in a row and come here legally!

 

[NashVol11]

Lulz. I could work my *** off and not make the NFL. Many do. It’s more about luck and genetics.

It’s both. The narrative that NFL players just rolled out of bed and became millionaires without hard work is total BS

 

[CountVolcula]

Why do we even have drug laws to begin with?

Same reason we have seatbelt laws, and helmet laws, and every other law

Somebody thought doing something stupid was cool and then found out there is not only ramifications for themselves, but others.

Do you think not having drug laws will fix the addiction issues? Will not having them will stop illegal flow of drugs?

There will always be people selling illegal drugs. The government will regulate the drug trade, issue taxes, etc..

Somebody will still try and avoid the taxes and sell unregulated drugs. Just like the still do for illegal liquor

It's just going to make it more accessible for people to get hooked on hard drugs like heroin, etc..

He'll, it's because of legal opioid to begin with that has caused the spike in Heroin addiction and overdoses in this country

Nothing will stop it other than people using common sense.

 

[NashVol11]

So, we have a drugee in our midst! thats fine you are more than welcome to go to the country in your avatar, I am sure they have the drug laws in which you seek!

And about those civilians dying in the streets by hand of cop, there are more whites killed by cops than there are blacks although blacks break the law at a higher rate per population %! So where is Kap and all those social justice warriors at on all this? I mean are they fighting for those whites also, because I have ONLY seen him mention black Americans as being oppressed and in that he would be wrong just like you!

ALSO, we do lead the world in prison population, we also besides China have a higher amount of population compared to most any other country, AS well as a higher % of prisoners in jail for you know the tiny things like being here illegally which is a crime in ANY country in the world, but yet for some reason is thought as racist when those here want to send them back until they get their ducks in a row and come here legally!

People have a really hard time with total numbers vs. percentages, as shown like 3 different times in the above post. Pick one.

And if it’s percentage, don’t talk about how “more white people are killed,” because there are like 10x as many white people, which is the same argument you made in your last paragraph (only it was still wrong there, because our incarceration rate per capita is still way higher than anyone else’s)...sigh. So much wrong here

 

[NashVol11]

Do you think not having drug laws will fix the addiction issues? Will not having them will stop illegal flow of drugs?

Having drug laws certainly hasn’t helped. Wasn’t that their entire point?

 

[CountVolcula]

See, you can't make the argument about adults being responsible for their actions if you willingly enforce laws that violate what an adult chooses to put in their bodies or consume.

If you want to preach person responsibility, then you would be for decriminalizing drugs.

So you think it's ok to have people running around, high on heroin, crack, and meth?

Who will support these people?

Should taxpayers be subjected to supporting these habits? If they can't hold a job, where does the money come from to pay for drugs? By stealing

These overdoses also affect the taxpayer by higher costs in healthcare, equipment for First Responders, etc

It's more to it than someone's choice to do with there body what they want. It has a trickle down effect

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So, we have a drugee in our midst! thats fine you are more than welcome to go to the country in your avatar, I am sure they have the drug laws in which you seek!

My drug of choice is alcohol. That is the extent of my drug activity.

And about those civilians dying in the streets by hand of cop, there are more whites killed by cops than there are blacks although blacks break the law at a higher rate per population %! So where is Kap and all those social justice warriors at on all this? I mean are they fighting for those whites also, because I have ONLY seen him mention black Americans as being oppressed and in that he would be wrong just like you!

I don't see any joy in knowing that anyone has to die at the hands of a cop. The way the cops killed that guy in the hotel hallway where they made him play Simon Says/Do the Hokey Pokey was an abomination, and he was not black.

ALSO, we do lead the world in prison population, we also besides China have a higher amount of population compared to most any other country, AS well as a higher % of prisoners in jail for you know the tiny things like being here illegally which is a crime in ANY country in the world, but yet for some reason is thought as racist when those here want to send them back until they get their ducks in a row and come here legally!

China is 3X's larger and is a communist country. So why should the Land of the Free even be in competition with them to begin with?

 

[Bigorangefaninga]

People have a really hard time with total numbers vs. percentages, as shown like 3 different times in the above post. Pick one.

And if it’s percentage, don’t talk about how “more white people are killed,” because there are like 10x as many white people, which is the same argument you made in your last paragraph (only it was still wrong there, because our incarceration rate per capita is still way higher than anyone else’s)...sigh. So much wrong here

actually you would be wrong on that also, % we are not the highest so although technicality you would be wrong that is Seychelles who leads the world in prison population per %. And again we also lead the world overall in criminals in prisons based upon being here illegally a problem not seen throughout most of the world(hmmm wonder why that is?) So I am right on whites are killed more by cops(number is higher) although they are stopped less than black Americans are. So how do we figure that out?

 

[NashVol11]

So you think it's ok to have people running around, high on heroin, crack, and meth?

Who will support these people?

Should taxpayers be subjected to supporting these habits?

They are now. It costs, what, 800K a year to keep someone in prison?

 

[CountVolcula]

They are now. It costs, what, 800K a year to keep someone in prison?

So what should we do with people who can't act reasonable in a civil society?

If someone breaks into your car, should they just be let loose because they needed your radio to pawn for more drugs?

I mean, it's not really their fault.

 

[NashVol11]

actually you would be wrong on that also, % we are not the highest so although technicality you would be wrong that is Seychelles who leads the world in prison population per %. And again we also lead the world overall in criminals in prisons based upon being here illegally a problem not seen throughout most of the world(hmmm wonder why that is?) So I am right on whites are killed more by cops(number is higher) although they are stopped less than black Americans are. So how do we figure that out?

Like I said, if you’re saying they’re killed more based on total numbers, then “stops” should also be total numbers, not percentages. Pick one.

I would imagine white people are higher in total numbers both ways, because there are more of them, and black people likely are higher in percentages both ways.

 

[NashVol11]

So what should we do with people who can't act reasonable in a civil society?

If someone breaks into your car, should they just be let loose because they needed your radio to pawn for more drugs?

I mean, it's not really their fault.

That would be theft, we’re talking about people arrested for possessing drugs

 

[95 Vol Alum]

It’s both. The narrative that NFL players just rolled out of bed and became millionaires without hard work is total BS

I don’t mean to imply they don’t work hard though I’m sure some have to work harder than others to differentiate.

But, you start with a very small percentage of the general population that have the requisite physical capabilities to be successful at the top level of athletics. I’m willing to wager that Bill Gates could work his tail off and still not be a player in the NFL. He’s not tall enough, not naturally fast enough, and likely not naturally agile enough. Those physical characteristics can’t be overcome with hard work.

Hard work differentiates within a very small %.

The luck is mostly due to injury avoidance.

 

[Bigorangefaninga]

My drug of choice is alcohol. That is the extent of my drug activity.


I don't see any joy in knowing that anyone has to die at the hands of a cop. The way the cops killed that guy in the hotel hallway where they made him play Simon Says/Do the Hokey Pokey was an abomination, and he was not black.



China is 3X's larger and is a communist country. So why should the Land of the Free even be in competition with them to begin with?

Well first, I choose to do none of those drugs, i also know if i did i have a predoposition of being addicted if i did so i stay away. You dont think personal choices should have consequences and I do, thats where we most likely split to different paths!

Yes, that killing was terrible and that cop should also spend some time in jail, where his life will be living hell. However the guy also shouldnt have had a BB gun and point it out a window, that is just STUPID and should have never been done, however that doesnt support shooting the guy either and the cops did make a mistake and it doesnt matter if white or black, it is sad all the way around!

China also doesnt have the amount of people coming into their country illegally as we do(hmmm maybe thats because this is the country of land of the free and home of the brave and China isnt). They also have been said to not report their entire prison population as they have a TON of political prisoners that the World Organization has not been made privy too!

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So you think it's ok to have people running around, high on heroin, crack, and meth?

Who will support these people?

Its funny that you don't give a damn or ask that question when you throw these same people in jail. Who is taking care of and supporting them when they are incarcerated?

Should taxpayers be subjected to supporting these habits? If they can't hold a job, where does the money come from to pay for drugs? By stealing

These overdoses also affect the taxpayer by higher costs in healthcare, equipment for First Responders, etc

It's more to it than someone's choice to do with there body what they want. It has a trickle down effect

Everything you are describing is a socialist/big govt problem... not a problem related to the drug world. Hell, are you going to arrest that fat couple at the buffet as well? How much do they cost taxpayers? You know what, I don't have the stats in front of me right now, but I bet you dollars to dingleberries that this countries obesity problem has a far larger impact on our socialized system than the back-alley drug user.

 

[mtowntim]

Wow, this thread went all to hell.

Christmas cleats ain't no joke.

 

[CountVolcula]

That would be theft, we’re talking about people arrested for possessing drugs

Don't you have to possess at some point to use?

People addicted to drugs and who can't afford their addiction, pawn stolen property for dope all the time.

Stolen property is found during search warrants every day. Guns are really popular. Easy to turn around for dealers

 

[Orangedogsrule]

Lol. The players have no idea why they’re kneeling.

One or two are brain dead ... maybe. But most are actually protesting an issue they care about.

However,

As far as myself, and evidently hundreds of thousands of others, are concerned, we believe it's NOT the flag and it's NOT the anthem being disrespected, but it's the individual soldiers sacrifices from the founding of this nation to this day; some giving all. Those who by a bunch of raggedy ass ball players choosing to protest during the flag and anthem ceremony are basically pissing on the graves of all the heros who gave up their lives for their freedom to protest during the ceremony.

Disagree with me if you want. That's just one of the things freedom in America is about. So, I don't care. That's fine, go ahead and disagree. But I say, good men and women died for your right to disagree. When the ceremony that honors their sacrifice is performed, get your ass up and acknowledge them.

Just because you can take a knee, or sit, doesn't mean you should, or your doing it is right.

 

[NashVol11]

Don't you have to possess at some point to use?

People addicted to drugs and who can't afford their addiction, pawn stolen property for dope all the time.

You’re basically making the argument that we should arrest all poor people who do drugs because every single one of them is going to start stealing things.

 

[CountVolcula]

Its funny that you don't give a damn or ask that question when you throw these same people in jail. Who is taking care of and supporting them when they are incarcerated?



Everything you are describing is a socialist/big govt problem... not a problem related to the drug world. Hell, are you going to arrest that fat couple at the buffet as well? How much do they cost taxpayers? You know what, I don't have the stats in front of me right now, but I bet you dollars to dingleberries that this countries obesity problem has a far larger impact on our socialized system than the back-alley drug user.

It's already happening in New York


The bottom line is still this and its really simple

Don't break the law. It's your choice. Same as driving drunk, stealing. If you know it's wrong, why do it?

And why get mad because you choose to break said law when it's your own fault you broke it in the first place?

Try getting the law changed instead.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

So what should we do with people who can't act reasonable in a civil society?

If someone breaks into your car, should they just be let loose because they needed your radio to pawn for more drugs?

I mean, it's not really their fault.

You asked two different questions.

If someone has drugs and is not harming anyone, then no need for law enforcement to be involved.

If someone breaks in my car, that is when you will be needed.

Pretty simple concept.

 

[mtowntim]

You’re basically making the argument that we should arrest all poor people who do drugs because every single one of them is going to start stealing things.

Reads like he's making an argument about decisions and consequences.

Started teaching that to my children early on.

 

[CountVolcula]

You’re basically making the argument that we should arrest all poor people who do drugs because every single one of them is going to start stealing things.

What?

I'm just telling why it happens

And most states now don't want a physical arrest for misdemeanor possession in the first place. The only exceptions are if you don't have ID or you have a history of not showing up for court after a previous issued citation

Most physical arrests are for possession with intent. Those aren't the users

What happens after that is left up to the attorneys

Some choose not to take their cases to the grand jury and plea out. Some still plea after a grand jury because they have deemed it to be in their best interest. Still a personal choice. Others work out bargains and roll on bigger fish, so they get better deals and most of the time never see jail time. Then you have your frequent flyers that never seem to learn and continue to be in and out of jail for various reasons.

The solution is not going to be easy and will never be solved within our lifetime

There will always be laws and there will always be people who break those laws

 

[CountVolcula]

You asked two different questions.

If someone has drugs and is not harming anyone, then no need for law enforcement to be involved.

If someone breaks in my car, that is when you will be needed.

Pretty simple concept.

What if one is the result of the other?

Cause and Effect

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Well first, I choose to do none of those drugs, i also know if i did i have a predoposition of being addicted if i did so i stay away. You dont think personal choices should have consequences and I do, thats where we most likely split to different paths!

Never said or implied that.