2022 NFL Offseason Thread

#127
#127
peaygolf said:
I have to disagree. I think they gave up way too much. Wilson is good, but not that good.
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Did you see what the 49ers gave up for Trey Lance? Three 1sts and a 3rd. The market for QB's is crazy.

Did you see the price they were talking about for Rodgers last summer? They were talking about two 1sts + Surtain + Patrick + Lock. I thought we'd be in that ballpark for Wilson. Fant isn't as good as Patrick and Surtain is worth way more than two 2nds and a 5th, and they get a 4th back on top of that.
 
#128
#128
n_huffhines said:
Did you see what the 49ers gave up for Trey Lance? Three 1sts and a 3rd. The market for QB's is crazy.

Did you see the price they were talking about for Rodgers last summer? They were talking about two 1sts + Surtain + Patrick + Lock. I thought we'd be in that ballpark for Wilson. Fant isn't as good as Patrick and Surtain is worth way more than two 2nds and a 5th, and they get a 4th back on top of that.
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Based on the above, it is a good deal. But, the above is also way too much as well.

The QB market is beyond crazy.
 
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#129
#129
I just lost in the dynasty fantasy championship. I have everybody coming back, including Javonte Williams, Jerry Jeudy, and Courtland Sutton, whose fantasy value just increased 33%. If I don't win next year, I may swear off fantasy forever. 12 keepers:

Burrow
Tee Higgins
Kupp
Kamara
D Cook
Freierumuth

Tyler Boyd
Singletary
Rhamondre Stevenson
And the Broncos

HTF did I lose with Burrow, Kupp, Kamara, and Cook healthy down the stretch? Unbelievable.
 
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#130
#130
n_huffhines said:
I just hate his personality. He seems like there is no depth to him. He's the king of cliches. He's just a try-hard. Pretending to be in a huddle and calling imaginary plays for the cameras was unforgivable to me.
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His personality reminds me of that of a corporate shill - somebody involved in sales, recruiting, or HR for some kind of soulless mega-corporation. Everything he says sounds like a pre-screened talking point that a handler wrote. I have never heard him say anything remotely insightful or interesting. You know there has to be some genuine personality there; he got Ciara to marry him and you know she isn't with him for his money, but I just think he's made a decision to never show it publicly.

On one hand, I do get it - he doesn't want to say anything controversial. However, you can be interesting/entertaining and avoid controversy (see the Mannings).
 
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#131
#131
YankeeVol said:
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Wow that is almost as big as the cowboys/Vikings hershel walker trade except think the cowboys got an additional 1st and 2nd pick.
As a Broncos fan afraid this is too much. On the other hand the Broncos have been to 8 Super Bowls and none of them had a qb that the Broncos drafted start. Also glad to be rid of drew lock. The job Heupel did turning him into a 2nd round draft pick at Missouri is remarkable.
 
#132
#132
05_never_again said:
His personality reminds me of that of a corporate shill - somebody involved in sales, recruiting, or HR for some kind of soulless mega-corporation. Everything he says sounds like a pre-screened talking point that a handler wrote. I have never heard him say anything remotely insightful or interesting. You know there has to be some genuine personality there; he got Ciara to marry him and you know she isn't with him for his money, but I just think he's made a decision to never show it publicly.

On one hand, I do get it - he doesn't want to say anything controversial. However, you can be interesting/entertaining and avoid controversy (see the Mannings).
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If you hear him mic'd up, it's just a bunch of:

"let's go!"

"4 quarters guys. It's a 4 quarter game."

You can mic up just about any QB and they're going to be getting laughs from teammates or talking ****, or something interesting. You get nothing out of Wilson. It's worse than the sideline reporter interviews of NBA coaches.
 
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#133
#133
Derek Carr has come much too far to still be the worst QB in the AFC West.
 
#135
#135
A good QB is the price to play in the playoffs. Without this trade the Broncos sit at sub .500 for the next decade. Good trade.
 
#138
#138
Notorious B.E.N said:
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Bill Simmons was talking about the Russell Wilson news hitting 20 minutes after the Rodgers reports and totally over-shadowing him, and then this tweet ^ was his attempt to get the limelight back.

Yeah, dude. We know that when it's reported you "agreed" to a contract that it doesn't mean you "signed", but thanks for the clarification.
 
#139
#139
I have yet to find someone say the Broncos didn't win in the trade. Plenty saying it was a win/win, but not everybody thinks Seattle won.

Someone pointed out that Seattle traded two 1sts for Jamal Adams, and Wilson's only worth two 2nds + Fant more than Adams? Doesn't seem right.
 
#140
#140
Teams that haven't gone through QB hell in a while don't understand how bad it is. You can do everything else right, but without an above average QB, you will struggle to win.
 
#141
#141
n_huffhines said:
Broncos didn't give up too much, they have Wilson on a decent contract for 2 years, but still I'm not that happy. I can't believe I have to root for him. At least it will be fun to blame him for everything that goes wrong.
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I mean, 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks is still a lot to give up. That’s pretty much no Day 1 and Day 2 picks for the next 2 drafts.
 
#142
#142
TrueOrange said:
I mean, 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks is still a lot to give up. That’s pretty much no Day 1 and Day 2 picks for the next 2 drafts.
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Yeah, but it's not a lot relative to the market. Like I said, Jamal Adams was two 1sts and he's just a run-stopping safety. He's really good at that, but the point is he's nowhere near a top tier QB's value, and the difference between them was two 2nds and Fant
 
#149
#149
Can I name them?

Peyton Manning
Brock Osweiler
Trevor Semian
Case Keenum
Joe Flacco
Teddy Bridgewater
Drew Lock
Paxton Lynch

And then Wilson next year. That is ^ one too many, so I've got somebody wrong.
 
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