102,455 for BYU

#76
#76
Checkerboard_Vol said:
I know I will catch "you know what" from some of you guys, but understand I am a season ticket holder and I am as disappointed as anyone. The effort seemed to be as disappointing as anything to me. I understand the frustration, anger, and disappointment, is a byproduct of passion. However, I have to wonder what effect the negativity from Volnation (as a whole, not this forum) has on recruits and of course the pundits love it. Yes, the recruits take noticed of possible immediate playing time, etc., but the Twitter blast, message boards, half filled stadium, etc., how does that fair with them? And again, the pundits love to hate us. I am going to the BYU game and have been looking forward to it for months now being that it is a night game on ESPN with a national audience. BYU will have a lot of fans. Personally I would love to see a near sell out, and to show the national audience, the players, and the coaches we are true fans that will continue to stand by our team regardless of the first game disappointment. I believe they will play better (hard to play worse) and I think a great crowd with a win would go a long way in the locker room and change the perception of TN fans nationally.
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I’ll be there, and fully expect a win this week!
 
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#77
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The good ole “true fan” argument. Here’s reality: If 102,455 fans show up or if zero show up, the result will be the same. The team that plays better football will win.

Me sitting there having a Coke and yelling on third won’t make the players know where and how to line up. My presence won’t cause a receiver to catch a pass he otherwise wouldn’t have. My presence won’t cause the right guard to pick up all of his assignments and pancake Mormons for three hours. But I will be there. I’ll be there because I like watching football.
 
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#79
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Checkerboard_Vol said:
I know I will catch "you know what" from some of you guys, but understand I am a season ticket holder and I am as disappointed as anyone. The effort seemed to be as disappointing as anything to me. I understand the frustration, anger, and disappointment, is a byproduct of passion. However, I have to wonder what effect the negativity from Volnation (as a whole, not this forum) has on recruits and of course the pundits love it. Yes, the recruits take noticed of possible immediate playing time, etc., but the Twitter blast, message boards, half filled stadium, etc., how does that fair with them? And again, the pundits love to hate us. I am going to the BYU game and have been looking forward to it for months now being that it is a night game on ESPN with a national audience. BYU will have a lot of fans. Personally I would love to see a near sell out, and to show the national audience, the players, and the coaches we are true fans that will continue to stand by our team regardless of the first game disappointment. I believe they will play better (hard to play worse) and I think a great crowd with a win would go a long way in the locker room and change the perception of TN fans nationally.
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You are part of the problem. If fewer people had had the attitude you have when we were saddled with Dooley and Jones, maybe the UTAD would have woken up and spent the money for a real coach in the last search. As long as there are sheep like you, this program will continue its slow death (which lately seems to have kicked into overdrive).
 
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volmoon said:
So, do you prefer that the broadcast announces that we are bandwagon fans? That our fan base is only as good as our play?
Nah.
And viewership still equals income.

I get it. We are all hurting from last week’s embarrassment, but boycott and fansfer is not going to change UT HC. Losing will.
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I am not trying to argue. I think I look at UT sports differently than you. I see them as my home state team, want them to win, enjoy the wins, but will not be excited if they play bad. I won't mind if I miss a game on TV or don't get to attend one in person. I understand TV contracts pay TENN regardless of their record, but bad teams result in loss revenue from fan apathy. The Tenn brand loses value. I know I'm not the biggest spending fan, but I went to a football, a basketball, and a baseball game during the past seasons. I bought UT shirts and hats. I am much more likely to go back to basketball and baseball in the upcoming seasons than go to another football game simply because they are playing pretty good. Watch a winning or even competitive game is fun, not what was on Sat
 
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I am all for supporting the team through the tough times and all. But I have been listening to the same song and dance for over a decade now. More power to the Vols but I cannot afford to spend hundreds of dollars for travel parking tickets and possible lodging just to be made a fool of.

When the team starts showing like they care, then I will care again and point my car toward Neyland. But I am sorry, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fool me 10, 11, or 12 times.....well to keep coming back is insanity.

Go Vols! Call me when someone wearing orange decides to quit hitting the snooze button up on the Hill.
 
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#84
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Checkerboard_Vol said:
I know I will catch "you know what" from some of you guys, but understand I am a season ticket holder and I am as disappointed as anyone. The effort seemed to be as disappointing as anything to me. I understand the frustration, anger, and disappointment, is a byproduct of passion. However, I have to wonder what effect the negativity from Volnation (as a whole, not this forum) has on recruits and of course the pundits love it. Yes, the recruits take noticed of possible immediate playing time, etc., but the Twitter blast, message boards, half filled stadium, etc., how does that fair with them? And again, the pundits love to hate us. I am going to the BYU game and have been looking forward to it for months now being that it is a night game on ESPN with a national audience. BYU will have a lot of fans. Personally I would love to see a near sell out, and to show the national audience, the players, and the coaches we are true fans that will continue to stand by our team regardless of the first game disappointment. I believe they will play better (hard to play worse) and I think a great crowd with a win would go a long way in the locker room and change the perception of TN fans nationally.
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Only if they announce JT or Maurer as starter.
 
#86
#86
volmoon said:
I agree. Fans are not the problem with UT, but a boycott movement isn’t in our best interest.
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This is dumb. What part of our administration repeatedly making bargain hires because they can, do you not understand? They do it because they see that the fans will turn out and support the team even if the product is crap. If the revenue dries up and their jobs are suddenly at stake, you better believe they will wake up, and fast.
 
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#89
Boycotting the games won’t achieve a **** thing, except making us look worse as a fan base. To me a half empty stadium is nearly as embarrassing as losing to GA St. Losing games is how coaches are fired, not you choosing to stay home and yell at the tv instead of going to the game. So I’ll be driving 4 hours to Knoxville Saturday and hoping to see a different team than played 2 days ago.
 
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#90
#90
Start winning games, and you won’t have the problems you mentioned. Look at just 3 short years ago in 2016. Neyland was sold out and rocking every big home game
 
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#92
lifeisdeep said:
This is dumb. What part of our administration repeatedly making bargain hires because they can, do you not understand? They do it because they see that the fans will turn out and support the team even if the product is crap. If the revenue dries up and their jobs are suddenly at stake, you better believe they will wake up, and fast.
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Don’t be naive.
 
#94
#94
a vol n tears said:
I am not trying to argue. I think I look at UT sports differently than you. I see them as my home state team, want them to win, enjoy the wins, but will not be excited if they play bad. I won't mind if I miss a game on TV or don't get to attend one in person. I understand TV contracts pay TENN regardless of their record, but bad teams result in loss revenue from fan apathy. The Tenn brand loses value. I know I'm not the biggest spending fan, but I went to a football, a basketball, and a baseball game during the past seasons. I bought UT shirts and hats. I am much more likely to go back to basketball and baseball in the upcoming seasons than go to another football game simply because they are playing pretty good. Watch a winning or even competitive game is fun, not what was on Sat
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Fair enough.
 
#95
#95
lifeisdeep said:
This is dumb. What part of our administration repeatedly making bargain hires because they can, do you not understand? They do it because they see that the fans will turn out and support the team even if the product is crap. If the revenue dries up and their jobs are suddenly at stake, you better believe they will wake up, and fast.
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We didn't have to empty Neyland to be right here where we are.

Stupidest thing I believe I've ever seen on here. LMAO.
 
#96
#96
There is a difference between a boycott driven by anger and simply choosing to spend money elsewhere because you just don't care.

The UT Fan Base is rapidly moving into the latter category. Apathy is what will finally finish off this program and Fulmer, Pruitt, and the administration are standing right on the lip of that abyss. Hopefully someone will realize where this path leads before the death spiral begins . But we are near that point.

Go to the game or don't go to the game. I really don't care. And it scares me to death that I feel that way. But that is where I am. And I am pretty sure that a lot of other lifelong Vol fans feel pretty similarly right now as well.
 
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#98
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Checkerboard_Vol said:
Personally I would love to see a near sell out, and to show the national audience, the players, and the coaches we are true fans that will continue to stand by our team regardless of the first game disappointment. I believe they will play better (hard to play worse) and I think a great crowd with a win would go a long way in the locker room and change the perception of TN fans nationally.
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But haven't you listened to the Volnation? We don't have any impact on how the team plays. The fanbase has no positive or negative impact on the team. We are completely irrelevant and thus can do and say anything we want and not take any form of responsibility for any toxicity that has been in the program the last decade.
 
#100
#100
OrangeTsar said:
There is a difference between a boycott driven by anger and simply choosing to spend money elsewhere because you just don't care.

The UT Fan Base is rapidly moving into the latter category. Apathy is what will finally finish off this program and Fulmer, Pruitt, and the administration are standing right on the lip of that abyss. Hopefully someone will realize where this path leads before the death spiral begins . But we are near that point.

Go to the game or don't go to the game. I really don't care. And it scares me to death that I feel that way. But that is where I am. And I am pretty sure that a lot of other lifelong Vol fans feel pretty similarly right now as well.
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Well said. It shouldnt be that hard to figure out that money drives this sport as much as anything else. People have been filling the stadium for 15 years and we are still going down that death spiral faster then ever.
 
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