Trump Lied 3001 Times, On Track For 8000

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n_huffhines said:
WTF is this? Somebody who hadn't made an appearance in this thread yet said this back in November. This is a textbook deflection from OP, the data presented, and anything that had been said in this thread.
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I've seen this topic wrinkle your wranglers in the past. What is it about the poo flinging on this particular topic that bunches your boxers?
 
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Has Trumps lies cost the lives of thousands of people like past Presidents?
 
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AirVol said:
Has Trumps lies surpassed Hillary’s yet?
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Why is Hillary your barometer on which you constantly measure Trump?

Are you intentionally trying to lower his bar and make her at least as bad as him? Because it's working.

I'm not sure this is accomplishing the goal you think it is.
 
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Septic said:
Why is Hillary your barometer on which you constantly measure Trump?

Are you intentionally trying to lower his bar and make her at least as bad as him? Because it's working.

I'm not sure this is accomplishing the goal you think it is.
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You voted for her and listening to anti Trumpers calling out lies is ironic as hell.
 
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luthervol said:
Of course Trump lies more than any modern president ever. Not even close.
Anyone questioning that fact is certainly showing their true colors.
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Oh boy. What are my true colors then? He's a buffoon. His die hard supporters aren't real conservatives.

Does he lie more than any professional lawmaker in history? Not even close. If anything, he is often guilty of overextending his true feelings.
 
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AirVol said:
You voted for her and listening to anti Trumpers calling out lies is ironic as hell.
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You should know just how ridiculous you look when your replies on how bad trump is are to constantly make equality comparisons to the person you think is literally the scum of the earth.

Hopefully, someday, one of your boys will step in and explain to you why your comparisons are self-defeating when trying to prop up Trump.

I'm trying to do you a favor but I can't understand the concept for you.
 
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Septic said:
You should know just how ridiculous you look when your replies on how bad trump is are to constantly make equality comparisons to the person you think is literally the scum of the earth.

Hopefully, someday, one of your boys will step in and explain to you why your comparisons are self-defeating when trying to prop up Trump.

I'm trying to do you a favor but I can't understand the concept for you.
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I think the best reply is, to quote Ocasio Cortez, "zero f***s given."
 
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tvolsfan said:
Go ahead and try to find an additional 300 lies for Obama. Or dispute as many of Trumps lies as you want. My guess is you won’t bother and will just declare the whole thing as unfair and biased with no evidence.
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I'm sure if I sat at a computer for the 8 years Obama was president and ran every public statement he made through a fact checker, I could find 300 lies. Easy. Especially if I took opinions of his I disagreed with and called them "lies" or counted the same lie told multiple times separately.

I don't really dispute any of Trump's lies, assuming he was trying to state a fact. The "biggest inaugural crowd ever," "I never did business in Russia," yes, lies. Some of the stuff that gets called a lie by the fact checkers are matters of opinion, like "this is the best economy we've ever had."

My point is that they lie in wait, just looking for Trump's lies, whereas they pursued Obama and other pols they like more with nowhere the same fervor. Obama only got called out by the media at large when he lied about something really big and consequential, like if you like your doctor/plan you can keep it.
 
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05_never_again said:
I'm sure if I sat at a computer for the 8 years Obama was president and ran every public statement he made through a fact checker, I could find 300 lies. Easy. Especially if I took opinions of his I disagreed with and called them "lies" or counted the same lie told multiple times separately.

I don't really dispute any of Trump's lies, assuming he was trying to state a fact. The "biggest inaugural crowd ever," "I never did business in Russia," yes, lies. Some of the stuff that gets called a lie by the fact checkers are matters of opinion, like "this is the best economy we've ever had."

My point is that they lie in wait, just looking for Trump's lies, whereas they pursued Obama and other pols they like more with nowhere the same fervor. Obama only got called out by the media at large when he lied about something really big and consequential, like if you like your doctor/plan you can keep it.
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What is this based on? Serious question.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Oh boy. What are my true colors then? He's a buffoon. His die hard supporters aren't real conservatives.

Does he lie more than any professional lawmaker in history? Not even close. If anything, he is often guilty of overextending his true feelings.
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You know I said modern day president and not any professional lawmaker in history.
He lies more than any modern day president ever did.
Overextending his true feelings and lying are two separate issues, both of which he is horribly guilty.
 
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luthervol said:
You know I said modern day president and not any professional lawmaker in history.
He lies more than any modern day president ever did.
Overextending his true feelings and lying are two separate issues, both of which he is horribly guilty.
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Do you have empirical evidence to prove this?
 
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tvolsfan said:
What is this based on? Serious question.
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What is what based on? 300 lies from Obama?

The fact that he was President for 8 years. I could find 300 lies from Dubya, 300 lies from Bill Clinton, etc.

EDIT: I didn't see the bolded part until after I posted.

It's just obvious from watching the media they track the veracity of Trump's statements more than Obama's. There's all sorts of things Obama said that weren't true yet CNN, WaPo, ABC/CBS/NBC, etc. didn't incessantly hammer it into the ground on a daily basis. Right-wing media did, but not the media at large.
 
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Coug said:
"In the 466 days since he took the oath of office, President Trump has made 3,001 false or misleading claims, according to The Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president."

That’s an average of nearly 6.5 claims a day."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...leading-claims-so-far/?utm_term=.89eb88309c71
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LMAO
He falsely said that major newspapers and television networks make up nonexistent sources. That is grounds for firing in the news business. Sources can certainly be wrong, but they exist.
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DinkinFlicka said:
Do you have empirical evidence to prove this?
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Nope. The earlier post comparing Trump to Obama gives a pretty good indicator. Now granted, Obama was one of the most honest presidents ever, but the other presidents would also have numbers substantaially better than Trump's. You're joking, right?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I actually live in a world where my paycheck is bigger, my 401k growth is back, my job is more secure, and my retirement is more secure. So I’ll take whatever he’s doing.
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I’m sure your wife has plans to share it with those in the neighborhood who are less fortunate.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I’m sure your wife has plans to share it with those in the neighborhood who are less fortunate.
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Since she’s a damn socialist herself I can promise she does. Luckily we agree ok where to share. We’re animal lovers and have regular set donations to several organizations.

Thus far she’s stuck to the 4 legged animal support.
 
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Coug said:
"In the 466 days since he took the oath of office, President Trump has made 3,001 false or misleading claims, according to The Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president."

That’s an average of nearly 6.5 claims a day."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...leading-claims-so-far/?utm_term=.89eb88309c71
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This entire article is joke, as is this lie tracker.

It’s more like a count of how many times the WaPo disagrees with Trump’s opinion or when the WaPo takes exemption to Trump’s hyperbole.
 
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luthervol said:
Nope. The earlier post comparing Trump to Obama gives a pretty good indicator. Now granted, Obama was one of the most honest presidents ever, but the other presidents would also have numbers substantaially better than Trump's. You're joking, right?
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I never joke. I'm always serious.
 
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