Utah State

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UtahVol said:
The Utah State game is no gimme. Not by a long shot. I don't know who will win and I would not be surprised if either team won. What I can guarantee you is that Utah State will have the best quarterback on the field and in college football that goes a long way.
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Obviously you like committing logical fallacies.
 
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They have a good QB, but they lose most of their DBs, all of their starting WRs, and OL and DL like us. They will not be a pushover, but they also won't be the team you saw this year.
 
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Man up, and quit being a wuss. I have always felt playing hapless opponents like AP, GA State, Buffalo, and other cupcake programs has played a big part in the Vols recent slide. Utah State, at this point in time, is not a cupcake. Playing them will be a better test that forces the Vols to up their game week in and week out. Compare it to trying to become a chess master playing a novice. It gets you nowhere.

To my way of thinking, this opener makes me more hopeful for a successful 2014 season. Quit enjoying cupcakes, they aren't healthy.
 
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UtahVol said:
The Utah State game is no gimme. Not by a long shot. I don't know who will win and I would not be surprised if either team won. What I can guarantee you is that Utah State will have the best quarterback on the field and in college football that goes a long way.
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GUARANTEEING that one player will be better than another, with a whole offseason ahead before the matchup,is a handy skill...not sure about the science involved...while you're in your laboratory, how good will Hurd and Malone be for us next year?...just so's I can skip the suspense
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This thread reminds me of the thread that started before the WKU game. Everybody was scared of WKU and bobby p before we played them, some even said they would win but we know how that game turned out. Not saying the same thing will happen again because WKU couldn't have done a better job of giving that game away. USU will be a good team but a team we should beat.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Would vandy have beat Florida without all the turnovers they had in that game? I don't think so.

Also vandy needs to send UT a thank you card for beating up on teams before they had to play them. And a big thank you to the official who overturned the call without video evidence in the UT game.[

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I love it how injury's seem to affect every team but Vandy. Vandy beat Florida, Georgia and UT with key injury's to several starters. Even a lot of posters on Volnation agree ACS made the first down. Quit crying, UT lost fair and square.
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immyaxl said:
volfan_89 said:
Would vandy have beat Florida without all the turnovers they had in that game? I don't think so.

Also vandy needs to send UT a thank you card for beating up on teams before they had to play them. And a big thank you to the official who overturned the call without video evidence in the UT game.[

:cray:

I love it how injury's seem to affect every team but Vandy. Vandy beat Florida, Georgia and UT with key injury's to several starters. Even a lot of posters on Volnation agree ACS made the first down. Quit crying, UT lost fair and square.
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Never said he didn't make it. Call on the field was bad but there wasn't video evidence to overturn it. So by the rules of video replay it shouldn't have been overturned.
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butchna said:
GUARANTEEING that one player will be better than another, with a whole offseason ahead before the matchup,is a handy skill...not sure about the science involved...while you're in your laboratory, how good will Hurd and Malone be for us next year?...just so's I can skip the suspense
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Jalen's gonna make one helluva TE/WR/LB/S/DT/NG/DE/OG/OT IMO.
 
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They play a weak schedule, doesn't mean they're weak. They line up and play with great fire and physicality.

I don't expect to lose but if you're a vol fan how can you continue to believe there is a sure fire win over a team like Utah St.
 
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Ideal game to start the only QB that's not touched a live ball in a real game. Would be his great opportunity.
 
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PowerT83 said:
They play a weak schedule, doesn't mean they're weak. They line up and play with great fire and physicality.

I don't expect to lose but if you're a vol fan how can you continue to believe there is a sure fire win over a team like Utah St.
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There are many examples of well coached fired up teams down here in Texas, who play with determination...when they run up against the high schools with equally well coached more athletic players...they get spanked
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PowerT83 said:
They play a weak schedule, doesn't mean they're weak. They line up and play with great fire and physicality.

I don't expect to lose but if you're a vol fan how can you continue to believe there is a sure fire win over a team like Utah St.
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Oh I don't believe they or anybody else is a sure fire win for UT. And I do believe that they will be very difficult for us to beat, they're a good team. Just listing the teams they beat to become bowl eligible..... not impressive. As little faith as I came to have in the 2013 team, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that UT easily makes a bowl with Utah State's schedule.
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
Looks like they're losing almost their whole O-Line and defensive backfield.
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Stop it. You are ruining the excuse preparation.

They also lose their top two rushers for the year and top two WR's. But I am sure their 2* depth and experience will overwhelm UT's roster...
 
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butchna said:
For Utah State?..who cares?...we gonna hate crime em!
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Should... but based on USA, Vandy, four completely uncompetitive blowouts, and a loss to what we now know was a poorly coached and terrible UF team... I want to see it before notching it in the W column. It is pretty apparent from recent results that they have good coaching.
 
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thadolphinman said:
Are you serious? They beat a ranked opponent, something we hadn't done since 2007.
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Are you serious? They were homecoming fodder in 4 games, lost to Vandy, and almost lost to USA. They lost to what we now know was a poorly coached and flat out bad UF team. That's 7 poorly coached games vs 2 decently coached games.

BTW, if those kinds of catches that won the USCe game had been common this year then you'd have a decent point. But when it takes a couple of circus catches that were not repeated.... it can be called a fluke.

Our special teams were vastly improved.
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Yeah. Looked good while Auburn set records against them, huh? They regressed over the course of the year.
The job they did with Palardy, both place kicking and punting, was extraordinary.
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That's nice. I feel so much better now about 2nd worst scoring D UT has had since at least 1945.

We rushed for more yards than any Tennessee team since 2004.
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And passed for less than any team since the one that got Fulmer fired. In the SEC, UT was 11th in scoring O, only 7th in rushing O, 13th in passing O, and 12th in total O.

Turnovers were improved,
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Improved from what? It is wholly illegitimate to use '12 as a basis for comparison. That was the worst coached UT team I have ever seen and the worst underperformance of talent I have seen since at least UT's 2005 team.

and for the first time in years, our teams came out and competed hard.
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Competing hard... beats Vandy. "Competing hard" avoids the complete rapes they endured vs Oregon, Bama, Mizzou, and Auburn.

Unless of course you are saying the players played their tails off and the coaching failed them?

I saw that whenever they played, and I haven't seen that in a Tennessee team since at least Kiffin.
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Then you weren't watching because UT's D with no better personnel played their tails off for Wilcox.

Just the fact they beat a ranked team shows improvement.
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No. It simply doesn't.

That was a goal that was met. I wish the team did better, but none of us expected for Auburn, Missouri, and even Vanderbilt to be as good as they were.
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I said before the season that Auburn had good talent. I didn't know Malzahn would be that good.

If you think talent was how Mizzou thumped UT... you are out of your mind. UT was thoroughly outcoached and the team looked unprepared.

Vandy wasn't that good. That game should have been a two TD win.

Overall I think that our defense was improved, our offense played as well as the experience allowed it too, and our special teams were so much more improved. If you didn't see that you are blind.
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More BS. The D was historically horrible. Talent was always going to be a limiting factor but does not come close to justifying how bad they were.

The O was often unimaginative. Execution was often poor and did not appear to improve over the course of the year.

I saw improvements but they were swamped by things that either were worse or failed to improve. And if you can't see that... then pull that beam out of your eye before worrying about the speck in mine.
 
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butchna said:
GUARANTEEING that one player will be better than another, with a whole offseason ahead before the matchup,is a handy skill...not sure about the science involved...while you're in your laboratory, how good will Hurd and Malone be for us next year?...just so's I can skip the suspense
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This is an easy one given that Chuckie Keeton is a four year starter and was getting Heisman consideration before he went down with a knee injury. As for Hurd and Malone, I went back and reviewed the past threads and I doubt either will see the field. Years ago we were basically guaranteed that Marlin Lane would be all world and Croom and Howard would return UT to WRU. So I expect both those players to redshirt while the other three combine for the first three-way Heisman. I'm going to go out on a limb and tell you Peyton Manning will be a better pro next year than Phillip Rivers. Why, because just like with Keeton v. Tennessees four QB, one has demonstrated performance and one has not.
 
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