Arnett to transfer?

#826
#826
UT's#1Fan said:
Translation:

I don't like what I read... I’d much rather read good fluffy posts on how the program is on the up and up with Dooley at the helm.... so i going to ignore you because I’m a little sheepish b!*ch.

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Harsh. I think maybe he might just want to not have to read posts by someone who's idea of contributing is calling the program a "sinking ship."
 
#827
#827
GatorBill said:
this is 100% incorrect. Cant be farther from the truth.

MSU would love to have him. But we all care more about him having a relationship with his dad than anything to do with football.

And of course we dont want him at um.


But there are idiots on every messageboard. Some of us are on TWO! :hi:
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So all these fans suddenly developed a huge desire to build this father-son relationship as long as the dude comes to their school?

You can easily bet whichever one he doesn't attend will have a quit change of tune. This is the biggest pile of horsecrap I've read on here in a while.
 
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#828
#828
Vol Karma said:
Real Translation:

It is nothing about being sheepish or it being a negative post. It is about that post had no substance at all.

Sheepish? That works both ways.
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Aww man, why did you quote him in your reply. That dolt is on my ignore list too. I hate that we can see quotes of people on our ignore list. Would be a nice feature if the mods could add that! :clapping:
 
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#829
rockytop9808 said:
So all these fans suddenly developed a huge desire to build this father-son relationship as long as the dude comes to their school?

You can easily bet whichever one he doesn't attend will have a quit change of tune. This is the biggest pile of horsecrap I've read on here in a while.
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It is a big pile of horsecrap to you because the kid is leaving YOUR school to go to another.

If the kid was at MSU, and he wanted to come back to TN because his sick father lives in Cookeville and he wanted to be closer to him, what would this place be like?

Wouldnt you be extolling the virtues of playing football at UT -v- Vandy? Would you just be wishing him well, or would you be wishing him well only if he comes to UT.

Personally my thoughts are this:
1) I wish and pray for better health for his father
2) I wish and pray that him and his father continue to improve their relationship, as it has not always been very good (that is probably putting it mildly)
3) I wish and pray that dArnett gains some much needed maturity through this process. He is, afterall, just an 18yr old kid. He has made some mistakes, and he has been treated like royalty (as most D1 players have) for the last 4 years of his life. Much like 90% of these athletes, he could use some humility
4) If he is going to be available, heck yes I want him at MSU. Only a fool would not want him.
d) I wish him well at Central Michigan University.
 
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smyborovol said:
So his father wasn't around when UT was recruiting him? Interesting
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The relationship was not good. His brother was the father figure. The relationship with his father was improving after he went to college. It is an important relationship to him.


Believe what you want.
 
#831
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GatorBill said:
It is a big pile of horsecrap to you because the kid is leaving YOUR school to go to another.

If the kid was at MSU, and he wanted to come back to TN because his sick father lives in Cookeville and he wanted to be closer to him, what would this place be like?

Wouldnt you be extolling the virtues of playing football at UT -v- Vandy? Would you just be wishing him well, or would you be wishing him well only if he comes to UT.

Personally my thoughts are this:
1) I wish and pray for better health for his father
2) I wish and pray that him and his father continue to improve their relationship, as it has not always been very good (that is probably putting it mildly)
3) I wish and pray that dArnett gains some much needed maturity through this process. He is, afterall, just an 18yr old kid. He has made some mistakes, and he has been treated like royalty (as most D1 players have) for the last 4 years of his life. Much like 90% of these athletes, he could use some humility
4) If he is going to be available, heck yes I want him at MSU. Only a fool would not want him.
d) I wish him well at Central Michigan University.
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And we wish you well......but only if you promise to never post here again. :)
 
#832
#832
UTProf said:
After having a little more time to think about this and process what we know I think that...

1. MSU's fingerprints are all over this.

From an earlier KNS article:



Waaah? He gave an interview on this to a Michigan State site earlier this month but it was only released late Wednesday?! Why was he talking to them about it in the first place let alone a MONTH ago?



Well that's nice of him - wish he were still saying that.

However, given his recent antics, it sounds like Arnett either thought or was told that the dad-excuse-plan would go off without a hitch. And it might have if AD Hart and Dooley were dumber than a box of rocks. How much you wanna bet Hart or Dooley found out something about Arnett being recruited away or some other nefarious b.s.?

Quite frankly, it sounds like he thought he could snow Dooley et al with his sob story and get a full unconditional release with it. Obviously, it hasn't gone that way.

2. DeAnthony's brother, RALPH Arnett, has his hands all over this. Yeah it's speculation but given the fact that the family acknowledges RALPH acts as DeAnthony's dad/agent, circumstantial evidence along with strong intuition says that's the case. Who wants to bet on whether or not Ralphie was offered a suitcase of cash, given an exit plan by MSU or UM, and told to bring little brother home? Personally, I wouldn't bet against it.

3. I was firmly in this kid's corner when this topic first came up (my earliest post proves it) but there's too much going on now for his story to be trusted. On the surface, it looks like he had a very legit reason for transfer and a hardship excuse that the NCAA would approve so why is acting so aggressively?

If his case is legit then he can apply for and get a hardship from the NCAA and play anywhere without having to sit out a year (his release by UT is about where he can immediately play without a waiver) so why is he pitching a fit when he can apply for a waiver? What is he so worried about? Why can't he take out a student loan that would even give him a little extra cash and let him play wherever he pleased?

As Shakespeare once wrote, "The Lady doth protest too much."

4. Why is every MSU and UM fan suddenly claiming Bagggett was fired? Especially,when not even a peep about such a thing has been printed in the press and you know our very own UT hating local press would've been all over that.
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I dont think every MSU fan is claiming that. We had a thread on that at Spartantailgate back when cBaggett left, and he clearly retired. Dont put us all in one basket.
 
#834
#834
cbbowlingmd said:
And we wish you well......but only if you promise to never post here again. :)
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I would thank you, but that is not going to happen. You will have to get used to me, as my kid is a Vol. Actually, my kid is a LadyVol, and you are not getting pictures!

:hi:
 
#838
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rockytop9808 said:
If it was about family it wouldn't matter.
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So, again, if this was a kid from TN that was trying to transfer out of MSU to come to UT or Vandy, you would be ok with Mark Dantonio saying he would release the kid to go to Carson Newman, but not UT or Vandy?
 
#839
#839
GatorBill said:
It is a big pile of horsecrap to you because the kid is leaving YOUR school to go to another.

If the kid was at MSU, and he wanted to come back to TN because his sick father lives in Cookeville and he wanted to be closer to him, what would this place be like?

Wouldnt you be extolling the virtues of playing football at UT -v- Vandy? Would you just be wishing him well, or would you be wishing him well only if he comes to UT.

Personally my thoughts are this:
1) I wish and pray for better health for his father
2) I wish and pray that him and his father continue to improve their relationship, as it has not always been very good (that is probably putting it mildly)
3) I wish and pray that dArnett gains some much needed maturity through this process. He is, afterall, just an 18yr old kid. He has made some mistakes, and he has been treated like royalty (as most D1 players have) for the last 4 years of his life. Much like 90% of these athletes, he could use some humility
4) If he is going to be available, heck yes I want him at MSU. Only a fool would not want him.
d) I wish him well at Central Michigan University.
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Well, Mr. Old Man Trollsalot, you missed my point entirely. Acting like UM and MSU fans are all of higher moral value than us heathen Tennessee fans is, frankly, hilarious.

The issue is that a kid who hasn't had any issue with his father's health is suddenly looking to leave a school that became, in his words, "not a good fit" conveniently after his favorite coach left. It's an excuse, and a downright dishonorable one at that.
 
#840
#840
GatorBill said:
So, again, if this was a kid from TN that was trying to transfer out of MSU to come to UT or Vandy, you would be ok with Mark Dantonio saying he would release the kid to go to Carson Newman, but not UT or Vandy?
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Absolutely. He signed a binding contract with the school at which he initially enrolled.
 
#841
#841
The Waco Kid said:
The hypocrisy continues | Dooleys Desk
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Pat Dooley is a well known drunk. He is the Gainesville version of the Adams joke who attempts to write for the Knoxville paper. If Pat Dooley is opposed, then I am fully convinced that we are handling this situation correctly.

Tell you what...if I start up a Gator Nation board, will you and Bill move over there? Why do a bunch of Gators want to spend day after day on a Vol chat board?
 
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#842
First, my thoughts and prayers are with the Arnett family...Life takes its toll and makes us better for it.

Second, I don't quite understand teh logic, if true, about UT not giving DA a release to play at any school in Michigan...he would fit in great in Hoke's system at UM.

Third, if UT doesn't grant him unconditional, and he does got to Central Michigan or even Western or East Michigan...no fear because someday we will see more of him on Sundays.

Last, to those that are bitter over a man transferring, be it for reasons personal or not, as a coach I say go in good faith...If you are not 100 percent into my program and what I'm trying to do, then I can't use you on my team and in my locker room...good luck and peace be unto you brother.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Well, Mr. Old Man Trollsalot, you missed my point entirely. Acting like UM and MSU fans are all of higher moral value than us heathen Tennessee fans is, frankly, hilarious.

The issue is that a kid who hasn't had any issue with his father's health is suddenly looking to leave a school that became, in his words, "not a good fit" conveniently after his favorite coach left. It's an excuse, and a downright dishonorable one at that.
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Well, Mr. . . . . whatever. Im not acting like we are on any higher moral ground, Im saying we are just the same. And that is all I am saying.

We wouldnt want him leaving MSU, and you would want him here at UT. Simple as that.

As far as his REAL reasons for wanting to leave, here is my guess.

1) Family
2) His father
3) cBaggett
d) Life in general

I moved here 5 years ago. My daughter is a freshman athlete at UT. (no pics). She wears her MSU gear occasionally around campus and has had a couple conversations with dArnett. She is not an "insider" and neither am I, but after following this kid for a while, I think it is about much more than cBaggett. But I do admit that Baggett leaving does play into it, just not as much as some of you do.

There are a ton of kids that get away from home and find that they made a mistake. I dont think he is unhappy here, I think he just wants to be closer to home. And I think he would want that even if cBaggett were still on staff, although I think he would have been given a full release if that were the case.

I think he should do one of two things:
1) enroll at D2 Saginaw Valley State for a year, and then transfer

2) enroll at CMU and give it all he has. The NFL will find him there if that is what he is worried about.
 
#844
#844
GatorBill said:
So, again, if this was a kid from TN that was trying to transfer out of MSU to come to UT or Vandy, you would be ok with Mark Dantonio saying he would release the kid to go to Carson Newman, but not UT or Vandy?
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Our opinion would not matter. Dooley doesn't have to do anything and Arnett has to abide by his agreement. Why can't DA sit out a year and maybe tend to the ill father? DA has more options than Bryce Brown did.
 
#845
#845
GatorBill said:
I would thank you, but that is not going to happen. You will have to get used to me, as my kid is a Vol. Actually, my kid is a LadyVol, and you are not getting pictures!

:hi:
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Well, if she looks like your avatar, we would pass anyway. j/k :)
 
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#846
Jackson_Harris said:
Pat Dooley is a well known drunk. He is the Gainesville version of the Adams joke who attempts to write for the Knoxville paper. If Pat Dooley is opposed, then I am fully convinced that we are handling this situation correctly.

Tell you what...if I start up a Gator Nation board, will you and Bill move over there? Why do a bunch of Gators want to spend day after day on a Vol chat board?
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I think the term you are looking for is "obsessed losers". :hi:
 
#847
#847
rockytop9808 said:
Absolutely. He signed a binding contract with the school at which he initially enrolled.
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Im not going to doubt you, but I think there are more people here that would be complaining that he should get an unconditional release. Just sayin'.

I think the kid just needs to go to CMU and live with it. But I would love to have him at MSU, if it worked out.
 
#848
#848
I guess my question would be, what is the real reason Arnett is transferring? Maybe it is his sick father, but wasn't he already sick? He said he mother only got to come see him play once this year. What did he expect during the whole recruiting process? He had been here and probably his mother too. They knew how far it was and they probably knew she wouldn't be at every game from the beginning. Sounds like the kid has just changed his mind, or is home sick. I'm not saying this is all it is, but seems to be a good possibility. If this is the case, I like what Dooley is doing. If he wanted to play football close to home, he had his chance to sign with Mich or Mich St in the first place. He had plenty of options. These kids need to think this process out a little more and they do need to be accountable. They have plenty of time to make their decision during the one to two year recruiting process. You can't just release all of them when they change their mind, because you would be doing it way too often. By his father being sick, it looks bad for Dooley and UT not to release him to a BCS school, but is this really the reason he is transferring? If it is, why did he ever go so far away to play football, when his father was already sick?
 
#849
#849
Jackson_Harris said:
Pat Dooley is a well known drunk. He is the Gainesville version of the Adams joke who attempts to write for the Knoxville paper. If Pat Dooley is opposed, then I am fully convinced that we are handling this situation correctly.

Tell you what...if I start up a Gator Nation board, will you and Bill move over there? Why do a bunch of Gators want to spend day after day on a Vol chat board?
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well, I come here for a couple reasons:
1) I live here, so might as well keep up with what is going on

2) my kid goes to school at UT, so. . sigh, again. . keeping up with things

3) work. boredom.

d) I usually stick to the "around the NCAA" board, just to stay out of trouble. There is some good entertainment over there
 
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