Arnett to transfer?

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UTProf said:
After having a little more time to think about this and process what we know I think that...

1. MSU's fingerprints are all over this.

From an earlier KNS article:



Waaah? He gave an interview on this to a Michigan State site earlier this month but it was only released late Wednesday?! Why was he talking to them about it in the first place let alone a MONTH ago?



Well that's nice of him - wish he were still saying that.

However, given his recent antics, it sounds like Arnett either thought or was told that the dad-excuse-plan would go off without a hitch. And it might have if AD Hart and Dooley were dumber than a box of rocks. How much you wanna bet Hart or Dooley found out something about Arnett being recruited away or some other nefarious b.s.?

Quite frankly, it sounds like he thought he could snow Dooley et al with his sob story and get a full unconditional release with it. Obviously, it hasn't gone that way.

2. DeAnthony's brother, RALPH Arnett, has his hands all over this. Yeah it's speculation but given the fact that the family acknowledges RALPH acts as DeAnthony's dad/agent, circumstantial evidence along with strong intuition says that's the case. Who wants to bet on whether or not Ralphie was offered a suitcase of cash, given an exit plan by MSU or UM, and told to bring little brother home? Personally, I wouldn't bet against it.

3. I was firmly in this kid's corner when this topic first came up (my earliest post proves it) but there's too much going on now for his story to be trusted. On the surface, it looks like he had a very legit reason for transfer and a hardship excuse that the NCAA would approve so why is acting so aggressively?

If his case is legit then he can apply for and get a hardship from the NCAA and play anywhere without having to sit out a year (his release by UT is about where he can immediately play without a waiver) so why is he pitching a fit when he can apply for a waiver? What is he so worried about? Why can't he take out a student loan that would even give him a little extra cash and let him play wherever he pleased?

As Shakespeare once wrote, "The Lady doth protest too much."

4. Why is every MSU and UM fan suddenly claiming Bagggett was fired? Especially,when not even a peep about such a thing has been printed in the press and you know our very own UT hating local press would've been all over that.
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Good research, I think this is fishier than the media has let on.
 
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vols-1 said:
Im sure the media will spin the heck out it. Thats why Brian Kelly gave Bullard his transfer. These are not battles your going to win in the press. A smart coach is not going to even fight the battle. What if Tyler Smith had not got his transfer back to TN from Iowa when his father was sick? Although Smith was released from Iowa his father died before he ever got to play at TN. Talk about a JoPa nightmare if Iowa had of played the Dooley card.
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Oh and once again , you are talking about players who didn't consider their father a stranger. First of all , you didn't answer my question. Second of all , at this point , I really don't think CDD or his staff gives a **** about winning anything but football games. God forbid we lose another war with the press that we haven't lost in the last 4 years. I'm sure they have a negative story ready however this turns out. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Do you honestly care about the man made weather that is the media these days? And let's compare Brian Kelly to this situation. A kid actually died during a windstorm during practice and it was his call to keep him up there. 60 mile per hour winds and that bastard needed film from practice while he is up 50 feet in the air. Damn that Kelly is such a class act. Please let me know who won that media battle.
 
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Vol2424 said:
Oh and once again , you are talking about players who didn't consider their father a stranger. First of all , you didn't answer my question. Second of all , at this point , I really don't think CDD or his staff gives a **** about winning anything but football games. God forbid we lose another war with the press that we haven't lost in the last 4 years. I'm sure they have a negative story ready however this turns out. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Do you honestly care about the man made weather that is the media these days? And let's compare Brian Kelly to this situation. A kid actually died during a windstorm during practice and it was his call to keep him up there. 60 mile per hour winds and that bastard needed film from practice while he is up 50 feet in the air. Damn that Kelly is such a class act. Please let me know who won that media battle.
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A little bit of a low blow, and a little out of context. I think this is a different situation entirely.
 
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UTProf said:
However, given his recent antics, it sounds like Arnett either thought or was told that the dad-excuse-plan would go off without a hitch. And it might have if AD Hart and Dooley were dumber than a box of rocks. How much you wanna bet Hart or Dooley found out something about Arnett being recruited away or some other nefarious b.s.?

Quite frankly, it sounds like he thought he could snow Dooley et al with his sob story and get a full unconditional release with it. Obviously, it hasn't gone that way.
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What if his dad pulls a Fred Sanford and goes to the emergency room with chest pains, then who's going to look dumber than a box of rocks? And his family seems like the type to pull a stunt like that.
 
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DjCrenshaw said:
A little bit of a low blow, and a little out of context. I think this is a different situation entirely.
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Dooley can do no right and Kelly is a Saint , is that it? My point is , it's worse. I'm not going to sit and explain anything to people who want to compare media battles to a guy who cost a kid his life. If it was Dooley , I guess they would put him in the chair. Different situations? Yes. Media battle? Yes. Low blow? No. He didn't want that to happen , but it happend on his time. It makes you look at this situation and realize it's nothing compared to how bad it could be.
 
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Vol2424 said:
Dooley can do no right and Kelly is a Saint , is that it? My point is , it's worse. I'm not going to sit and explain anything to people who want to compare media battles to a guy who cost a kid his life. If it was Dooley , I guess they would put him in the chair. Different situations? Yes. Media battle? Yes. Low blow? No. He didn't want that to happen , but it happend on his time. It makes you look at this situation and realize it's nothing compared to how bad it could be.
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ok that makes sense
 
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Vol2424 said:
Oh and once again , you are talking about players who didn't consider their father a stranger. First of all , you didn't answer my question. Second of all , at this point , I really don't think CDD or his staff gives a **** about winning anything but football games. God forbid we lose another war with the press that we haven't lost in the last 4 years. I'm sure they have a negative story ready however this turns out. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Do you honestly care about the man made weather that is the media these days? And let's compare Brian Kelly to this situation. A kid actually died during a windstorm during practice and it was his call to keep him up there. 60 mile per hour winds and that bastard needed film from practice while he is up 50 feet in the air. Damn that Kelly is such a class act. Please let me know who won that media battle.
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I know the kid is probably pulling a fast one. But Dooley comes off looking like the guy(Kiffin) he trying not to be by appearing to not give a **** and by putting winning ahead of education. Dooley is just opening himself up for something really bad to happen the longer this goes on.
 
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vols-1 said:
What if his dad pulls a Fred Sanford and goes to the emergency room with chest pains, then who's going to look dumber than a box of rocks? And his family seems like the type to pull a stunt like that.
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It wouldn't surprise me in the least if it were tried. There's a lot of $$$ on the line and if IIRC MSU is looking to replace its WR's who are all graduating. That said, outside of football forums that only us obsessive fans pay attention to it's likely not going to garner press. And his father's health/medical waiver is for THE NCAA to check out. It's not as though he can't go that route right now and transfer on the hopes of a waiver but whatever reason he seems real scared that the NCAA won't grant that waiver.

Another thing Arnett isn't considering and imo this is because this pre-plotted daddy-excuse plan blew-up when they were sure it would work is that if he left now he'd likely face even more consequences - TWO YEARS for a frosh not finishing a full year imposed by the NCAA!

Ralphie was likely sold a bag of dreams by a wealthy booster and he sold it to DeAnthony. The trouble is that no one bothered to check with the NCAA.

Further, the excuse that he can't pay for a year doesn't fly with anyone whose been to college in the last 20+ years. The poorer you are the more subsidized federal loans and grants you get. He'd walk away with MORE money in his pocket from student loans and grants than he would from any sports scholly.

EDIT: Finally there IS such a thing as poaching by other schools and I highly suspect that's the case here and if I'm right about that then showing other schools it won't be tolerated is actually worth the PR hit.
 
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vols-1 said:
I know the kid is probably pulling a fast one. But Dooley comes off looking like the guy(Kiffin) he trying not to be by appearing to not give a **** and by putting winning ahead of education. Dooley is just opening himself up for something really bad to happen the longer this goes on.
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This is now nonsensical babble.
 
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vols-1 said:
You dont think he pulling a fast one to get out?
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Yes, I do.

But

But Dooley comes off looking like the guy(Kiffin) he trying not to be by appearing to not give a **** and by putting winning ahead of education. Dooley is just opening himself up for something really bad to happen the longer this goes on.
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is, as I said, nonsensical babble. Dooley is not actively trying to be the anti-Kiffin, he's not putting winning ahead of education, and absolutely nothing will come of this, just like with Bryce Brown.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Yes, I do.

But



is, as I said, nonsensical babble. Dooley is not actively trying to be the anti-Kiffin, he's not putting winning ahead of education, and absolutely nothing will come of this, just like with Bryce Brown.
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if he wants to go let him go,,i would jump off a sinking ship too!
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Yes, I do.

But



is, as I said, nonsensical babble. Dooley is not actively trying to be the anti-Kiffin, he's not putting winning ahead of education, and absolutely nothing will come of this, just like with Bryce Brown.
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If DD was really common sense smart, he would have worked out some kind of under the table deal with Arnett and sent him on his way. Like have Arnett do some good press about how great a guy DD is for reuniting him with his father. Because battles involving sick senior citizens(or any other controversial topic) aren't battles your ever going to win. It's better just to move on and make the best out of the situation and be a man about it.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Yes, I do.

But



is, as I said, nonsensical babble. Dooley is not actively trying to be the anti-Kiffin, he's not putting winning ahead of education, and absolutely nothing will come of this, just like with Bryce Brown.
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The Bryce Brown topic didn't involve a situation where someone may need help or was taken advantage of. There are situations where you do the right thing first and ask questions later even though half the time there's is more to the story.
 
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On other forums I visit (they are not team specific) this is getting very little play on some, and no play on others. At first I was worried about the PR nightmare, but now not so much. Of course that could change in the upcoming days.

Without knowing exactly what is going on behind the curtain I agree with Tennessee in this case, but I am not sure if it is worth it. I would like to see the whole story go away.

tombomcfaren said:
wow you sound like OBAMA, why don't you write the new health care reform once it gets repealed by the supreme court.
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Keep your politics out of the football forums.
 
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Knoxville News Sentinel says Arnett to transfer to home state. After you read the article, actually the headline should read...Arnett to transfer to Michigan State. I can't see that happening!
 
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cbbowlingmd said:
And, one more worthless poster to the ignore list. :rock:
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Translation:

I don't like what I read... I’d much rather read good fluffy posts on how the program is on the up and up with Dooley at the helm.... so i going to ignore you because I’m a little sheepish b!*ch.

:rock:
 
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vols-1 said:
The Bryce Brown topic didn't involve a situation where someone may need help or was taken advantage of. There are situations where you do the right thing first and ask questions later even though half the time there's is more to the story.
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Yet it's gotten about the exact same amount of airplay and attention as this one. Nothing will come of it, as always, and to think it will makes you a paranoid fool.
 
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UT's#1Fan said:
Translation:

I don't like what I read... I’d much rather read good fluffy posts on how the program is on the up and up with Dooley at the helm.... so i going to ignore you because I’m a little sheepish b!*ch.

:rock:
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Real Translation:

It is nothing about being sheepish or it being a negative post. It is about that post had no substance at all.

Sheepish? That works both ways.
 
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BlueTick Vol said:
If the letter posted on govolsxtra is exactly what he wrote, I think we should release him because he sure as he?$ didn't learn anything in English class. Maybe that's the C he's referring to.

Taking everything into account I don't think we should release him. These kids need to understand and be held accountable for their signature on the LOI. If he wants to be near his family AND play football he can play for a MAC school. If his priority is to get to the NFL with the greatest exposure (I.e BCS program) then he needs to play by the rules of his LOI.
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Way back in the day, I think they used to call the class 'English Composition'. It seems to me that he needs to transfer to a good school that offers such a class.

I do wish him the best of luck! I am afraid that he is going to need all that he can get.
 
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UTCVol said:
They are so hypocritical. They don't give a s*** about the kid's dad. UM and MSU fans just want him to come play for them.
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this is 100% incorrect. Cant be farther from the truth.

MSU would love to have him. But we all care more about him having a relationship with his dad than anything to do with football.

And of course we dont want him at um.


But there are idiots on every messageboard. Some of us are on TWO! :hi:
 
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